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#150994
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150994/action/topic#150994
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So when will it be finished? And how can I get a copy?

(ain't I a stinker?)

But seriously, glad to see the project continuing. The Starfield Recovery comparison is fascinating-- it's like the first image was squeege'd and put through the wash to get the crisp final one. And thanks to Laserman for his efforts, and best wishes for good health.
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#150430
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If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150430/action/topic#150430
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Originally posted by: Seiji
To me, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy proved that not everything needs to be CGI. I really loved the look of those ugly looking fellas with the snouts. Jim Henson's crew still has it.


Yeah, I loved the look of that whole flick. Really nice images, and the creatures were cool. I hope the team that made it continues to make sci-fi type stuff.
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#149945
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Info: Anyone Have The Fight Club Workprint? Or any workprints for that matter?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149945/action/topic#149945
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Universal is moronic. They screwed up the lame Dazed & Confused re-release, which was supposed to have commentary and cast reunion footage on it, but forced a release date and Richard Linklater wasn't able to put out the edition he would've liked. So now there's talk of a possible Criterion of Dazed. AMC (which edits the crap out of everything) showed the documentary Making Dazed (which featured reunion footage), so that was as good it gets for now. That would be a nice addition to a Dazed DVD.

There's already a mammoth Dogma set, as well as a single-disc barebones version. The *only* reason to put anything new out is if it included the 3 hour early cut. And *maybe* the documentary In Defense of Dogma, which was released as an extra on the View Askew flick Vulgar. The new Mallrats cut was a cool idea-- I didn't know that Universal would've put something out without Smith's input and since he's so fan-friendly, it would be foolish not to work *with* him. But as a fan, I of course already own the previous loaded edition, and don't wanna shell out 15-20 bucks every time a studio decides that its suits need raises.
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#149938
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Original Trilogy.com in the Press
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149938/action/topic#149938
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Considering that preservation efforts and fan edits are not done for profit, and not sold on any sort of grand scale and do not replace any official DVDs, and the fact that probably everyone here owns and purchases official SW movies and merchandise, I don't see what reason Lucasfilm would have for making an issue out of any of it. Unless their lawyers get bored or something.
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#149934
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If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149934/action/topic#149934
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Not much different? In all the making-of footage on the Clones DVD, almost all the shots are of actors walking down corridors with nothing but green around them, Natalie Portman running on blue gym mats, Ewan McGregor in like, half a cockpit of a ship, etc. Entire rooms, buildings, vehicles, characters, all digitally faked. I would say that's very different from the tangible elements of the OT, and the movies of yore. Aside from bits and pieces, what sets were actually constructed?
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#149798
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Idea: Mallrats TV Cut - with deleted scenes added back in?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149798/action/topic#149798
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I remember watching Mallrats on TV when it first aired on ABC, and it’s practically like a completely different version. There were deleted scenes incorporated back in, due to the removal of much of the raunch in the theatrical cut, and some truly hilarious, awful looping to clean up the dialogue (with an entirely different person doing Jay Mewes’ looping, with the voice changing sometimes mid-sentence!). I sadly didn’t tape it when it aired, and I think it may have only aired once since, on another channel.

I was curious if anyone had this and would be interested in preserving it on DVD. Although a new cut of the flick was included on the recent Mallrats re-release DVD, the TV cut was not. Of course, this is purely hypothetical, since I have no means, or talent, to embark on such a project.

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#149787
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If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149787/action/topic#149787
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Originally posted by: JennyS1138
To me, the whole irony is that for all these years, George whined that the sets, creatures, effects, etc didn't live up to his standards/vision, yet even with all the money and technology in the world, the stuff they did in the prequels was actually inferior.

And, the recreated set from ANH at the end of Sith is ironically one of the coolest things in the PT.

Nute Gunray and half of the battle droids were puppets. As were most of the sets in the PT.


I'm not trying to be a smartass, but the sets were puppets? If you mean that they were organic, weren't most of the PT "sets" largely green screen?
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#149593
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Wanted: Batman DVD cover
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149593/action/topic#149593
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The Coov cover is awesome. One thing I don't like about the Begins artwork though, is the logo/font. Esp. the font, which reminds me of the terrible font used for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. My favorite Batfont is the one used in the comics logo in the late '80's (circa Death in the Family storyline), which has thankfully returned to the comics in a sort of new version after way too many years of the bad Forever font. And I still like the design on Burton's '89 Batman poster.
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#149585
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If George had only changed Special effects for the SE and DVD, would people have complained as much?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149585/action/topic#149585
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Maybe it's because I grew up with them, but I still like a lot of the movies from the 70's and 80's that use more "realistic" effects. Close Encounters, Ghostbusters, Back to the Future-- much of the fantasy/sci-fi stuff really holds up pretty well. I can watch movies now like Explorers (which isn't the *best* movie itself, but still a cool family flick), Last Starfighter, Tron (which was actually groundbreaking for some of its digital work) and still marvel at the neat effects. They used a combination of real life items and smoother-looking film effects that create a nice, lasting final image. Sure, some things here and there look dated (and matte lines stick out like a sore thumb), but overall, it was a great period for those genres.
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#149177
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Will GL start a trend of other classic films being changed?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149177/action/topic#149177
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
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Yes, it's a trend.


No, it's not. Trends eventually die out. This has been going on since art existed.


Trends come and go, but just because it's been going on for a long time doesn't make it not a trend. Who's arguing semantics here? And just because many trends are short-lived doesn't mean there is an expiration date on them. Don't make me post the definition of the word. It's a pretty broad concept when it comes to pop culture.

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The only difference is you didn't notice until it happened to Star Wars.


Uh, no. I'm not ten years old. Although I probably was the first time I noticed it-- it was when Teen Wolf was on TV, and there were 2 scenes in it that weren't in the theatrical version (and those scenes still aren't on the DVD).

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It's not the same as The Exorcist restoring a couple mins


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Yes, it is. You're trying to argue semantics and it doesn't fit.


You're kidding, right? Inserting a few mins. of "lost" footage is exactly the same as going through a movie frame by frame and making changes from beginning to end? Okay. I'm not arguing that Lucas is the first to make such changes. But there are degrees of such changes, and again, Lucas' are among the most extreme, dare I say, in film history.

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The growing activity (which is a negligible claim, actually)


It's not growing? So you're saying there's less of such occurrances now then 20 years ago? I wasn't saying Lucas is singlehandedly responsible for some new resurgeance of movie altering. But you have to admit, it is one specific and *extreme* example. And of course it has happened since the beginning of art, but are there really countless examples of paintings and novels that have been "revisited" by their creators? Ayn Rand's Anthem is one I can think of off the top of my head. I might be making an "ass" out of "u" and "me", but it's safe to assume that while altering films has been going on for a long time, the frequency was greater in the late 20th century.

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You can't decry this "trend" on one hand and then support it a couple forums down

Well, you can, but it sort of weakens your argument.


I'm not making an argument. I just find it an interesting discussion/study of film. I'm not decrying the trend(/tendency/choice/whatever word you wanna use) outright. Some films have been changed for the better and benefit from tweaking (which is more often than not, pretty minor). Just so happens that SW ain't one of 'em. I'm fascinated by deleted material and looking at work from the inside out. Fo' shizzle my Bizzle.
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#149137
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Will GL start a trend of other classic films being changed?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149137/action/topic#149137
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
You don't pay too much attention to film and film history if you think this is a "trend" much less one started by Lucas.

Sure, it's fun to create a bunch of "The sky is falling" scenarios just for shits n' giggles, but that's about all this is good for--artistic revisions are not a Lucas innovation, nor did he really popularize it. If anything, he DEMONIZED it


Yes, it's a trend. Wouldn't something occurring many times consistently over a span of time be considered a "trend"? (answer: yes, since that's a very definition of the word) Come on-- of course, GL didn't "invent" this trend, but what he's done with the SW flicks is pretty unprecedented, no? These aren't just simple "Director's Cuts" or "Alternate Versions" (which often amount to a few mins. of slight differences), or even mere "artistic revisions"-- he went back into widely known, "classic", beloved films and performed numerous alterations, removals, and insertions. IMDB might note alt. versions (which again, often amount to fairly insignificant changes), and that's why there are websites devoted to the sheer amount of SW changes. It's not the same as The Exorcist restoring a couple mins, or just slapping deleted scenes back into a film and calling it a Special Limited Extreme Edition. Or the newer trend of putting out every other movie in an Unrated Edition.

Lucas may not have invented this notion, and his work (and undoing of said work) on the OT isn't unique per se, but the sheer number and scope of changes (i.e. digitally replacing one actor with another one? softening already PG-rated "violence"?) is an extreme example of the film-altering trend. And while he didn't invent or start such a thing, there sure seems to be a LOT more of such things happening with films since the SW SE. And the DVD format has helped boost those numbers as well (1, 2, 3-disc versions, etc). I'm not arguing, I'm just saying that there's something to the suggestion of Lucas playing a pretty big role in this kind of growing activity.

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Back to the Future Trilogy
-Elizabeth Shue would be inserted in the first film, since a different actress played her character in the first film


I wish you could do the reverse, and put the first Jennifer (Claudia Wells) into II & III. Shue is a good actress, but she was *awful* in the BTTF flicks.

It's only a matter of time before digital "enhancements" and changes happen to more classics.

I'm waiting for a new cut of the Nightmare on Elm Street series, sort of in reverse-- called Bad Afternoon on Elm Street-- in which this guy named Freddy is disfigured and after haunting people while they sleep, he then exits their dreams, has his face fixed, and becomes a beloved Mr. Rogers-type character, with a striped sweater.
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#148635
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BANNED BOND: The Criterion Collection on DVD (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/148635/action/topic#148635
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
THX-1138, I was curious, why were those commentary tracks "banned"?


That question was addressed a couple posts above:

THX-1138: I believe the problem was that the people on the commentaries speak their minds and don't hold back negitive comments. Like the screenwriter of From Russia With Love calling Ian Fleming a "Snob", or Director Terance Young recalling Chris Blackwell's Pot Smoking habbits. The MGM commentaries are just to NICE, and hold back any real objective comments.