bilditup1

CatBus said:

bilditup1 said:

 

And please, play nice, and don't try anything stupid.

Probably not the best thing to post on a forum that's indexed by Google and then available to the whole nothing-to-do-with-Star-Wars world, then... just sayin'...

Of course, that was totally klutzy. Should have just had people PM me. The harm's already done though, and this isn't something I plan on keeping up for that long...

For those looking to maybe get liberated from typically 50KB/s or less speeds of uloz, I decided to forgo Dropbox (which could shitcan my public folder privileges on a whim) or trying to upload to some other godforsaken service that might disappear tomorrow and just put WP3 folder access via a new group in my FTP server. (I have to assume that's OK if links to uloz are fair game. Only the WP3 folder - as opposed to the rest of Harmy's stuff or the rest of my Star Wars stuff in general - is being shared).

You can optionally connect with explicit ssl (FTPes). 

My upload bandwidth is quite good for a home connection (25Mbit) but in order to ensure speed I've limited it to four people at a time, and one connection (read: one download) at a time, which is still double uloz's top speed. This is a temporary dealy of course, for obvious reasons, and you'll have to implictly trust me as your IPs are all logged. You'll all be seeing my public IP, too, so it's a two-way street.

It would be a good idea not to use a web browser, but a real client like FileZilla or maybe Cyberduck, or FireFTP for Firefox. Make sure you're in passive mode.

Everything WP3 through R6 is up. R2 is an mkv file. Of the examples, the Luke saber-training on the Falcon, the latest trash compactor, the latest Obi/Vader is up.

And please, play nice, and don't try anything stupid.

bk1.zapto.org, port 21, user/pass: harmy/harmy

-e

Harmy: OK if I just stick the recent clips in my public dropbox or something? That surely must be faster than uloz

uloz.to taking it's sweet time. Damn feds...

And yes, using the top version of this scene is IMHO a no-brainer. mverta put it best.

djchaseb said:

bilditup1 said:

Though, like he said, there are some aspects of the top version that I kinda like.

I'm with Harmy on this also, but it is the best the scene can probably look.  That is more than enough for me lol. 

Oh yeah, that just was a remark, not a complaint.

Though, like he said, there are some aspects of the top version that I kinda like.

Wow, MUCH more detail in the bottom shots. If there was ever any fraction of a doubt that Harmy was our guy, it should now be dispelled...

And meanwhile you have all of that blue crap on the Jawa's arm. That seems to have been fixed though

Well, I still have some school stuff to do but it should be all done by the end of June and then back to work on the edit and since it's in the finishing stages I'm still confident that a summer release is very likely.

That's fantastic news!

Hey I helped out :) The tracker went down last night (again) so that's probably part of why you've had trouble

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I plan on synching it with the PG.  But PSB comes first.

...awesome

Of course, it was after that that Harmy released the robot shot, but he specifically said that he was taking a break from his work at the time.

KoolGuy7 said:

New here is there an ETA on this project? Sorry.

If the mistakes were there on film, in cinemas, they will be preserved but I don't think they were.

Just to let you know guys, I've got lots of school work piled up (what with my final exams coming up and all), so there hasn't been much development lately. I'd wanted the edit to be done before I had to start doing all the school work but since I didn't manage to meet that dead line and I don't want to rush it, because I want to get everything right, I won't be able to resume work on this until the end of May. 

and of course, much thanks to Protocol Droid, Protocol Droid's mom, and Puggo :)

I'd like one pm too pls? :)

...this sounds brilliant. It would be awesome if it would sync up with Harmy and PuggoGrande when all is said and done

woodsyallen said:

Just checked MySpleen on the off chance I could just attempt it... it mentions the 1.0 versions are depricated. Is this true for Jedi as well? Am I looking at the right thing?

Well the 2.0 versions of ESB and ROTJ are still a way's off. I'll update the description to make that clearer. But 1.0 of Star Wars is clearly deprecated; the 2.0 is nearly done and blows it out of the water.

I actually just bought newsgroup access again yesterday, but I don't know how to use it yet...

ChainsawAsh said:

Is the Imperial Edition DVD going to be updated to reflect the improved sound quality?

The Imperial Edition DVD was released last year, so no. I have not heard of plans for a re-release either; on the contrary, ABC specifically said that the old release would stay the same.

Glad that jacksbrain finally spilled the beans :)

ABC sent a few people the sets (myself included) and I am now seeding it on myspleen w/free leech for a week. Come on, come all! (Ask walking_dork or Dark_Jedi for an invite)

Thanks to jacksbrain for his upload of set 3, as ABC's original link expired before I could get it.

Marctraider said:

Heh I suppose so :)

 

So this project, does it only involve The ESB or also A new Hope and Return of the Jedi? I guess only ESB. I haven't followed this topic in the recent years but my guess is that this audio/music is different from the Ultimate (2cd) complete versions of the first three episodes?

Only ESB. In a previous project, which also does a lot of good for the source material IMHO, he dealt with Star Wars and Return of the Jedi (see my sig).

I'm sure by 'Ultimate (2cd) complete versions' you mean the RCA Victor sets from 1997 that Sony rereleased in 2004. The only film that got a released called 'the Ultimate Edition' was The Phantom Menace, and that release was widely panned.

The music presented here is slightly more complete than the RCA Victor Special Edition releases, and uses a whole bunch of sources - the RSO CDs, the RSO LPs, the Anthology box set, and even the NPR Radio Drama. Just as important, ABC chose the best version of every cue and sometimes even overlayed parts of one recording over another, to get the most natural, nuanced kind of sound. 

I bought Shadows of the Empire a while ago, but only listened to it once. Don't remember it well, but have heard good things. I think once I reread that book (which I haven't done in ages) I'll return to the score. Other than that, I haven't played Star Wars games, and am unfamiliar with their scores.

georgec said:

^bilditup1

George looks like a real miser in your avatar.

LOL, it's about time to retire it. It's from a guest appearance on The Colbert Report from 2005 or 2006 in response to something Colbert said. Was pretty hilarious at the time, but right now George is just creepy.

I agree that in today's scores, walls of sound without a coherent theme or melody have become the norm, and by that score the prequel scores are better.  But just like the films they're based on, I think it's also OK to lament what they could have been, as well as some of the poorer decisions/deficiencies compared to the earlier scores. Maybe that's not totally fair, because I regard the Empire score to be the greatest, ever, but this thread invited the comparison. Besides, this is the Internet! Fair, shmair

By the way, in case it wasn't obvious, the cue I'm referring to from Empire is from the scene where Vader is force-chucking things at Luke and he goes, er, through the window

I would describe the PT score as dull and uninteresting, "bad" isn't quite the right word.

 

 I think that about sums it up. There are a few memorable cues, but they are sparsely populated among a mostly 'meh' ocean. In Empire, except for maybe the first few tracks, it ain't like that. But again, not the fairest of comparisons

A lot has been said here already but just to pile on - I love John Williams' scores for Star Wars, probably more than I love the films themselves. The scores to 'Star Wars' and especially 'Empire' are my favorites of all time, and that's including Howard Shore's scores to LOTR, which is saying a lot. And while I don't think Williams ever matches his late 70s/early 80s efforts, he's had a few gems since in Hook, Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, and Harry Potter. (Catch Me If You Can was fun, of course, but limited by the type of movie that was.)

As for the prequels...while each film introduced a great new theme or two (TPM: Anakin's, Trade Federation, Naboo, and of course Duel of the Fates; AOTC: Across the Stars, ROTS: Battle of the Heroes) and usually had a few unique, memorable cues (TPM takes the cake here) the scores as coherent entities overall suffered by poor storytelling and lackluster characters on Lucas' part. Last minute re-edits probably didn't help either - just look at how great the reconstructed TPM score is! (It's the only one that begins to approach the classic scores of yore.) Then of course, there's the fact that Lucas redid the turn of Vader in pickups - considering that such a huge story decision was done so late in the process, it's pretty amazing that the music for that scene worked just fine. (Or not. I haven't seen Episode III in a while and don't even remember if the music in that scene was relevant or simply subdued. That would never happen for the originals!) Anyway, all things considered, Williams did a pretty good job, even if there weren't many memorable cues and none of the prequels had a proper, original end credits suite. 

Probably the most annoying single thing, besides the chore that is listening to the AOTC score, and the post-facto butchering of TPM, is the shoehorning in of the 'Through The Window' cue from 'Empire' into the Yoda vs Palpatine fight. It makes absolutely no sense from either a story perspective, a musical perspective, or a film perspective. By which I mean: the two fights do not parallel each other in the slightest, neither emotionally nor from a plot perspective, the presence of the music here is jarring and out of place considering what we're hearing for the rest of the film, and the matching up of the cues/beats with the characters actions in the film, which were just spot on in Empire, is nonexistent in the ROTS scene. Annoys me to no end...and you KNOW this was a conscious decision by Lucas too; it's inconceivable that Williams would be responsible for something like this. (On the other hand, it's kind of cool to hear a second 'official' rendition of that iconic cue. Still, not worth it IMHO.)

After the reddit bump, I modified the descriptions on my Harmy ups at the spleen to ward people off and get them to wait for the 2.0. Still, they've all got 30+ seeds right now, so I can't really complain about that :)

dslartoo said:

I've been saying just that for years. These are Lucas's films, after all. 

Meh. If Lucas wants to at once complain about the rights of directors and the prerogatives associated with auteur theory,  then him messing around with the films of two other directors - both now deceased - is pretty dang hypocritical. Empire and Jedi are Lucas' films insofar as he owns them and wrote the story, yes, but they aren't 'his' by Lucas' own rubric. Kershner in particular was not some shmuck for hire! I'll alert YOUR Star Destroyer, Georgie