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no i don't. what was that?

SSWR (again). its a mockup of his i've been after for a while. he reused the shot of obi-wan climbing in the fighter on utapau.

the whole thing was to the same rendition of the force theme heard right at the end of ROTS, and had a 'new dawn' vibe to it which was good. the thing that worked best though was how ambiguous obi wan just flying off into space was. true star wars ending that leaves no hint to the next adventure!

All the links i've posted I should still be there. I am missing a bunch of the ROTJ ones, hence the gaps.

Ok, they're all UNLISTED, which means you can only see them from the links in the first post.

* Sorry you are right, FOX has eaten them. I'll see about placing them elsewhere.

Younger members of the forum may not remember, but there used to be a guy here called SomethingStarWarsRelated. He had a really good vision, and came up with some really good edit ideas.

Most edits were quite subtle, but had the potential to tell another story and set another tone.

One day he, and his youtube account, just vansihed. Luckily I didn’t have internet back then and had to download his videos and manually store them to watch multiple times. There are loads however that I don’t have, and I think it would be great to preserve them (especially the proposed ending for ROTS)

If anyone has copies of his videos that are not listed here, please let me know as there are some I really want to locate.

If you are still out there SSWR, I hope you don’t mind them being shared again. I do hope you will return to come and waste more time with us!

AOTC

Part 1
Part 2
Idea

ROTS

The New Windu
Anakin’s Turn

ROTJ

Part 0
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8
Part 10
Unfinished Ideas

You would create all this with magic. Why do we do this to ourselves?

Have LUKE born on dagobah (padme survives).

The Tantive IV then goes to Alderaan, where a scene opens with Bail Organa says "We have always thought of adopting." (but no reference to a girl, this suggests he is planning to take LUKE).

Obi-wan looks concerned and approaches a sleeping padme (taken from from earlier) she mutters 'obi wan'.

We now see General Grevious' fighter on a landing pad, which obi-wan enters, on his lap is a baby. He then flies off into space .... alone....

This was all mocked up by someone else ages ago. I think its a good ESB style ending.

and lets not forget....

THE ANIMATED VERSION!

here's an old edit by SSWR from years back that might help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5e01GFwtw

If you are into the idea of portraying Mace as the Snape character to Anakin, I wonder if there would be a way to make it look like HE was the one turning to the darkside?

The ewok enigma might be solved a little better too if they didn't take over so much in the finale. We never move on after them. (we need a space ending!)

The problem with having qui-gon being the creator of the clone army, is that he believes that Anakin is the answer to all the galaxies problems (the problems being personified in the sith).

It could however be a cool revelation that the the clone army was designed for anakin to lead perhaps? (which does actually happen)

The PT though needs an obvious villain, who openly opposes the protagonists, the republic and the audience. Having Dooku mentioned and referred to in TPM, visually revealed in AOTC and defeated in ROTS could provide that surely?

another idea for AOTC (and the wider PT) - that is NOT alderaan related.

what if COUNT DOOKU is really SIFO-DIAS?


in the OT, characters (although obvious ones such as the emperor, and jabba) are mentioned in films prior to their appearance. we don't get this in the PT. this elusive and mysterious persona - COUNT DOOKU - could be mentioned in TPM as the leader of their faction. we never meet him, or hear him speak, but he is there in the background.

i have always liked the idea of masking count dooku's identity somehow. previously i have always thought a mask could work, as then additional footage could be made for him much more easily, then when the identity is revealed, the mask comes off. it could be the big 'OMG its him' moment.

i also advocate the idea of starting the 'clone wars' conflict in TPM with naboo (although at this point we are missing the clones). an editor could change the SIFO DIAS name, as it sounds a bit stupid, and is too close to SIDIOUS.

the plot holes this would cause would be abound. i imagine this is better for SITH dooku as oppose to JEDI dooku.

i was thinking that perhaps the ewoks cause the diversion that the rebels need to gain the upperhand. we see them show up in force, and then the imperials chase them off, leaving the shield generator unprotected. no bear antics. then the deleted footage of the rebels taking the bunker could be inserted perhaps?

Davnes007 said:

It's already been suggested that Naboo be turned into Alderaan, but what would Coruscant need to be changed/merged?

This isn't the same logic as turning Naboo to Alderaan entirely as previously suggested. This is removing the repetitive environment of coruscant+naboo from the PT slightly, so they are not so repetitive. ie.

TPM Planets
Naboo
Tatooine
Coruscant

AOTC Planets
Alderaan (naboo/coruscant replacement)
Kamino
Tatooine
Geonosis

ROTS Planets
Coruscant
Utapau
Mustafar
Kashyyyk
(Misc inc. Alderaan, Asteroids, Naboo, Tatooine)

ANH Planets
Tatooine
Death Star
Yavin

ESB Planets
Hoth
Asteroids
Dagobah
Bespin

ROTJ Planets
Tatooine
Endor
Death Star II

Alderaan Changes - The whole idea of the planet would need to be re-visualised. It would need to be a metropolis at one point, and empty fields and lakes the next. I would argue to recreate the white city that mcquarrie came up with, and combine it with the period architecture and fashion we get in cloud city. We need a vision of a peaceful paradise.

Narrative Changes - If there was a way, the planet would need a brief exploring before Padme arrives, and the ship explodes. This is still an important storyline as it gets the Jedi into her apartment to protect her. If we have a backdrop of peace, then the explosion would seem even more shocking.

The speeder chase would need drastic editing, as the city would not pass as Alderaan. I would imagine that the chase would begin in the city, then move on to pastures and mountains. It could end perhaps in another urban environment like a floating station?

The Jedi temple could possibly be cut, but I always liked what SSWR did with that scene, as it casts anakin in such a good light, and sets windu up as a potential antagonist. The temple could therefor exist as a space station (which could be incorporated into TPM and ROTS edits). As the Alderaan conference is so important, the Jedi could have a security presence. This space station could also travel to Geonosis later on, although I would fancy it as purely defensive.

Anakin and Padme eloping would then be them moving out to a more remote part of the countryside. Perhaps even an inserted comment that the attackers would expect her to flee back to naboo could be added (i always thought it was a bit obvious). They would carry on as before, and would leave for tatooine as before, then go to geonosis - as before.

These are just IDEAS at the moment. And i haven't thought the entire thing through. Please give it some thought though, as I really think this could be a good thing to talk about. There are still BIG plotholes, but just think of ESB, this is sort of hoth and bespin rolled into one.

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i can't remember if this has ever been suggested, but in AOTC, could Naboo and Coruscant be merged to form Alderaan? It would require alot of re-matting, and story tweaks, but would stop the two former planets from dominating the PT as much.

this could link with the idea that TPM heralded the beginning of the clone wars, and either a cold war, or a full scale separation has been occurring since. alderaan would act as a sort of switzerland/conference zone for the two sides.

the jedi council would only contact obi-wan and anakin through hologram - UNLESS they had a sort of iconic jedi council space station which they travel around in (like 2001 for us retro fans)

i always thought the A-wings would fit aesthetically with the naboo. if someone was keen enough  to reshoot/re-render all the space battles in TPM then that would be a cool option.

this is sort of relevant....

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Alternative-Star-Wars-Movie-Titles-Keep-Checking-the-First-Post/topic/13439/

why stop at one pilot? i think there should be three!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPL7QPCfVZc&feature=related

in all seriousness though, my IDEAL Prequel Trilogy would be a campish retro science fiction romp to the brink of anakin being played by adam west.

unless his memory isn't wiped? considering how pedantic and self obsessed he is, it wouldn't be out of character for him to not make the links between the events leading to anakin's fall, the clone wars, padme etc - and luke's adventures.

i guess any faneditor worth his salt would just remove 3p0 from the homestead completely?

haha. that could be quite funny.

slightly off topic, but more of a "what spaceships would you replace with other space ships" idea - the millenium falcon features heavily in the OT, and i always felt that as it is so symbolic as a location as much as a vehicle that i should somehow feature in the PT at some point in similar circumstances.

i'd love to see it replace the royal starship in TPM, as a trade federation junker/transport ship. its manned by a bunch of droids. it sort of looks a bit like their battleships, and perhaps it could be a little less 'modified' at this point. of course it wouldn't have a name, but obi-wan's quite smile in ANH when he actually see's it for the first time could actually be given some subtext.

makes alot of sense. but i think when fanediting the PT, EVERYTHING seems to come out of the bag to hook it to the OT in any way possible.

3P0 enstead of jar jar would be brilliant, as well as a feat of magnificent dedication!

not the whole thing, but the BALMORRA might be good. it sort has that mysterious/contradictory character vibe. i guess it depends what you are going for though exactly. bear in mind that this is a good example of a track with multiple themes inside it.