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#264277
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Global Warming
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Originally posted by: ferris209auraloffalwaffle claims that we are robots who work under command
I did no such thing.

I do believe that all life is sacred and if you think that's a bad thing then fair enough. I arrived at that conclusion after consideration, despite what you may think. I believe that I have no right to decide who lives or who dies in this world. Naturally, that influences my feelings on subjects such as war or crime or whatever. It is also my belief that no-one else has the right to decide who lives and who dies and those who kill should have their freedom to do so taken away from them.

That you think some people are not worthy to keep their life is not a fact of life that I have to deal with. It is your opinion, ferris209. No more or less.
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#264265
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Global Warming
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
Iraq's invasion of Quait was a criminal act.
Iraq's leader's hate for the US and its allies was a criminal act.
Saddam's misleading inspectors was a criminal act.
Saddam killing hundreds of thousands of his OWN people was a criminal act.
Saddam conspiring against the US was a criminal act.
Saddam's support, aiding, and abetting of KNOWN terrorists was a criminal act.
Saddam's support an ideal that is destructive and terrorists is criminal! I'm not a citizen of Iraq. I have no say in how they run their country. By the way, the second and the last on your list are not criminal acts, unless you plan to start telling people how they should think.
Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
If I recall correctly, US and UK were going off of reports that may have been flawed, but it was not a misleading. We and the UK were acting off information it was going on. Blair mislead no one. He was going off information provided. Actually, it has been proven that Blair mislead parliament. Nothing has been done about it. In case you're interested WESHALLPRESERVE (and I know you are! ), that disgusts me.Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
You go on, you continue not to vote... or go ahead and vote for the wrong people, because your country is doomed anyway. The more you continue to appease that Muslim population, the more your own freedoms will slip, and then soon you'll be afraid to express any opinion at all when the Muslims start to slay people for differing opinion. I'm glad I don't live there.
I do vote and I will vote for the candidate I feel represents me best. If there are no candidates that represent my political views then I will not vote in that instance. That's my right in a democracy. The muslim community are, in fact, not the ones taking away my rights. It's Tony Blair's government.Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
As for labels. If you don't label something, how the hell are you suppose to know what you're up against? I know you liberals hate the label, but it's what you are. Deal with it. I'm a conservative! I'm a conservative Republican! Let me go full bore: I'm a CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN! AND I'M FUCKING PROUD OF IT!! Why are you so afraid of labels. You give them all the time. "Conservative" is suppose to be an insult in the mass media. African Americans are proud to be African Americans, when actually, they're JUST Americans like they should be. Give it a rest. I can't go around constantly calling terrorist: "Extra-national individuals who do not hold our values in any regard and would prefer to stick a pipebomb up our asses." I'd like to, but that's awfully long, and I prefer 'terrorist.'
I'm not afraid of labels at all. I think they're useful, to a point. But I think the lengths to which you talk of muslims, liberals, conservatives, terrorists, etc. demonstrates that you're losing sight of individuality within those groups. You're dehumanising the people within the groups. I don't hate to be called a liberal but it's not all there is to me and I'm comfortable with that.

I'm a Christian too. I'm glad that you don't regard being labelled as a Christian, conservative republican as an insult. Good for you.

I love my neighbour.
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#264260
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10 years of the Special Editions
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Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
As it turned out, the SEs were not unlike Anakin's presence in the Jedi Order. The SEs did us a lot of good in the beginning but ultimately ruined everything.
Very good!!

I too relished the opportunity to see the OT on the big screen. And, as zombie84 has said, at that time the enjoyment was not tainted with the knowledge that this was going to be the only version I would be allowed to like from then on. Sad. Really sad.
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#264258
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Global Warming
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We all have to decide how we're going to live. Knowing that someone, even everyone might disagree with me doesn't change my decision. Life is sacred, irrespective of what an individual might do with their life. Taking away someone's freedom may be justified but not their life.

I'm sorry you find me disgusting, WESHALLPRESERVE, but I'm probably in good company.
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#264251
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Global Warming
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Originally posted by: Wookie Wedgie
I feel sorry for Blair. The guy is (as I understand it) pretty much like a moderate/liberal here in this country, but he gets it. He gets the problem the Islamofascists present. Just like our Lieberman (also a liberal) gets it, too. Why is this so hard for people to grasp? There is nothing to be gained by being on the side of the terrorists. They give a frick about the liberals defending them in the US. Liberals are tools for the islamofascists. PC sentiments are tools for the terrorists. Its lovely how liberals play right into the terrorists' hands. They love this.
Okay, firstly, Tony Blair does not deserve anyone's pity. Public opinion has turned against him gradually because it has transpired that he has lied to parliament on several occasions, most notably on the eve of the invasion of Iraq. Many MPs (and citizens) supported the war until they found out that Blair had deliberately misled them in order to ensure they voted to participate.

Secondly, what's with your love of labels for people? Islamofascists, liberals, etc. And all problems boil down to the struggle of good against evil. It's amazing to me how quickly some people think they can decide who's good and who's bad. WESHALLPRESERVE loves it too, just look at his last post: "Theres Republican, Conservitive, Democrat, Liberal----the commie." Everything has to be simplified, dumbed-down and re-packaged with a nice explanatory label on it!

Thirdly, I, for one, am not in the habit of defending people who kill, for any reason. I think you'd find that most "liberals", as you've pigeon-holed them, do not defend acts of terrorism, whether committed by a religious group or a government or anyone. Such people attack the US and the UK because they refuse to acknowledge that they ever enter a war or tinker about with other countries' governments for anything less than the most pure, the most humanitarian of motives. Utter bullshit. Self-service and arrogance define both countries' approach to foreign affairs and always have done. This doesn't make them worse than any other nation, by the way. It makes them the same. But neither will ever admit it.

Fourthly, I am a resident of the UK. I dislike the policies of the current government and do not vote for people connected with it. I attack the way the UK has conducted it's affairs, both now and in the past. It's my right to do that. I also have a right to attack or defend whomever I choose, so long as I do it legally.

The invasion of Iraq was a criminal act on the part of the governments of the US and the UK and I don't think the people behind those actions should be allowed to get away with it.

I am aware that my rights would be very different in a state run by such as the Taliban or the Ba'athists. I do not defend terrorist actions.

I am not a pathetic retard without any grasp of the facts.

Neither am I an arrogant, self-righteous person prepared to kill or displace or disadvantage anyone to secure a peace through fear of reprisal. I value the life of all human beings because I'm not so blind as to think that I am better than anyone else.

To attack or control people with fear is terrorism.
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#264240
Topic
Global Warming
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Exactly--Theres Republican, Conservitive, Democrat, Liberal----the commie. Wherever you go, The first 4 all actually seem to be in agreement about the situation. the last...not so much.
You come out with reductive, simplistic, asinine statements like these and, at the same time, expect us to accept that you are better informed than most people 10 years your senior? For fuck's sake...
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#264228
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Global Warming
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
About global warming: I wonder what those conservatives, that claimed that global warming was just a stupid fake hypotesis created by commie-loving liberals in order to stop companies from having profit, have to say now.
Well, ric, so far in this thread the concensus seems to be:

"Global warming was just a stupid fake hypothesis created by commie-loving liberals in order to stop companies from having profit!"
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#264227
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Global Warming
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
So your using the fact you live in the UK to shield your self from the rest of the world? Wow...pathetic.. Am I? I thought I was just pointing out the fact that, despite having made it clear where I lived, since you and ferris209 seemed to think I was the canker within your fine country, you still seemed to be saying I was a US citizen with no gratitude or respect for my homeland. That's all.
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
I'm pretty sure another terror attack would have happened in the UK if it weren't for the amazing Law Enforcement there. Everything apply in the UK that I said. Hell, because of people like you your entire country is being overrun with musilm immigrants. Oh, really? Maybe we'd better bomb ourselves back to the stone age then.
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Might I remind you of France in that Novembers a few years back? That might happen to the UK--hell, things are practically set up! So its people like you that had opened the gates to your country. Excuse me while I flagellate myself for going against the pure teachings of WESHALLPRESERVE. If only we had had your wisdom before now!Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
BTW, if you don't even live in the fuckin United States, how in the fuck do you know whats going on here? All you have heared is from the News over there? Biased of course. You don't see Americans talking shit about the UK now, but then you'd say ("oh, we're not commiting any horrible warcrimes!")
Actually, I wouldn't claim any such bollocks, but you carry on.Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
newsflash, your once great Prime Minister supported President Bush in the way. God speed to that man--he might not me the next Winston Churchill, but he's up there.
Then God help us all.Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Because you live there that still gives you insight into whats going on here, on THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FUCKIN POND. No matter if you watc CNN or Fox news over there either--their just as bad to what ever you got.
I wouldn't watch CNN or Fox unless I wanted a really good laugh. The BBC aren't up to much and getting worse and worse all the time. ITV are shit and always have been. Channel 4 news is the only one I can watch with laughing and/or destroying my TV in rage. And Rupert Murdoch can die in screaming pain for all I care.
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#264208
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Music
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Currently at work listening to:

The Ultimate Collection - The Four Tops
Relationship Of Command - At The Drive-In
Dichterliebe (Op. 48), Liederkreis (Op. 39) & Myrthen (Op. 25) - Robert Schumann (Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau (Baritone) & Christoph Eschenbach (Piano))
Clear Spot & The Spotlight Kid (on one CD) - Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
Music Of My Mind - Stevie Wonder
Guerrilla - Super Furry Animals
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#264207
Topic
What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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Originally posted by: Dug
... I don't think that taking of a life (in the interest of good) should in anyway inhibit a Jedi from action. I know that's not what you're saying, but that's what that could lead to.
This is true. It leads me to think that maybe it could be an interesting factor to introduce into Vader's training. If Ben started training him at about the same age as Luke in ESB and he couldn't handle it. With the wars going on all around him, maybe he couldn't stand it. Maybe he struggled to control his emotions. Maybe it lead him to desire the end of conflict at any cost.

Any thoughts on that?
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#264206
Topic
Global Warming
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Yeah, but no one, here has reached the point that auraloffalwaffle has. No one. ... Arnie, I could have a reasonable discussion with, at least I know that me and you are on the same side, the side of the living, but auraloffalwaffle is completely on the other side. Thats why.
It must be so nice to have the intelligence and wisdom to be able to look at the entire world with all its myriad communities and associated problems and then resolve them all into two opposing sides of good and evil. Teach us, WESHALLPRESERVE, teach us the way!
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#264205
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Global Warming
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
The war in Iraq is a very good thing-once again---if they weren't pre-occupied there, you will have been killed here already. What, in the UK? Where I live? As I told you earlier?
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVEWhat do you mean the U.S.'s bank balance---What the fuck? Saddam's wealth equaled danger! What a dumb ass. An excellent and informative riposte! Oh no, wait... you were just being a cock... my mistake.
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
"New World"? It does'nt seem your contributing much to it. What? From the UK? Where I live? As I told you earlier?
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
NO WE ARE NOT USING ENOUGH BOMBS YOU PHSYCO COMMUNIST. IT IS BECAUSE OF YOU PEOPLE WE ARE STILL OVER THERE. IT IS BECASE YOU COURTMARSHALL AND GET LAWYERS TO PROSECUTE OUR OWN MEN AND WOMEN FIGHTING, IT IS WHY THEY HESITATE TO SHOOT A BULLET AT AN ENEMY, BECAUSE THEY KNOW, THERES A HUGE CHANCE THEY WILL LOSE EVERYTHING TO YOU BASTARDS. WE ARE NOT USING ENOUGH BOMBS TO END THIS WAR BECAUSE YOU WILL SUE OUR PILOTS!
You seem to think I've got an awful lot of money to spend on legal action against US armed forces from the UK. Where I live. As I told you earlier.Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
YOUR SUCH A bastard.....what do you mean run the country or we'll blow your fucking brains out? such a dumb ass-Do you hold any grasp of whats going on?
Again, I must bow to your superior knowledge on this... oh no, wait... you did it again...Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Oh everyone, it seems auraloffalwaffle cannot comment or make up stuff against my analysis earlier.
I think "analysis" is a little generous, don't you?Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
He is the reason why we are losing this war. Your so disgusting, vile, your the ones that are leaving the doors wide open for an attack, and are preventing us realists, both democrats and republicans to close them. You might think of your self as a democrat, but your not You a million times beyond that. Why don't you go to the new Solivet Union where you belong.
I guess you just haven't bombed me enough yet. In the UK. Where I live. As I told you earlier.
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#264203
Topic
Global Warming
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
How do you know? Were you alive 20 million years ago!? Whoa! You got me there, big guy...

Would you mind kicking the arses of those palaeontologists for us? Those motherfuckers have been making shit up for years...
Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
What you just said made no sense what so ever.
Well, duh!!!!Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
all your doing is making fun of the statements ... with no proof or contradicting evidence what-so-ever.
That's right! Since few people, least of all Prof. Tiptup, actually presented supporting evidence for their remarks I didn't see why I had to break my back posting any either!
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#264041
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Global Warming
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
The war in Iraq was a very good thing "Was"? "Is", I presume you mean?
Originally posted by: Tiptup
because Saddam was a sitting upon lots of oil and that oil was going to translate into wealth and that wealth would have equaled far too much danger. To the US's bank balance, presumably...
Originally posted by: Tiptup
The Islamic world is pathetic and not worthy of our fear. The sane nations should be fighting to kill their warriors and their ability to threaten freedom. If we win, it would be a nice blow to Islamic moral as well. D'you know, I don't know where we would all be without you guys from the "New World" to tell us where we've all been going wrong all these millennia...
Originally posted by: Tiptup
Fighting to give them democracy and "freedom" is obviously a nice goal Well, obviously! Fighting them to get them to run their country in exactly the same way as we do is a triumph for their self-determination!
Originally posted by: Tiptup
but not one that I believe we can accomplish in the way that we are currently fighting.
Why? Aren't we using enough bombs?Originally posted by: Tiptup
I believe that, at best, we can only take actions that will support democracy in that area of the world. All people (no matter their culture or where they live) can eventually see clear costs and clear benefits when they are presented.
Yeah! So true! Like: "run your country the way we want you to or we'll blow your fucking brains out!"Originally posted by: Tiptup
We cannot force democracy to exist where it will not first be appreciated in that fundamental way.
Quitter. You haven't killed enbough of them yet, that's all.Originally posted by: Tiptup
The Islamic world is inferior to the Western world.
And Tiptup really knows his worlds! There was this one world and it was SOOOO shit! I mean really fucking crap, man! Tiptup had to, literally, put on some overalls and rubber gloves to kick that cunt out! What was that one? The Communist World, that's it! Man, the world is so much better off now that that world doesn't exist!Originally posted by: Tiptup
On the whole, they behave irrationally at every turn and cannot be reasoned with regarding reasonable issues. They not only frequently desire and frequently act to kill us, they also frequently desire and frequently act to kill each other. Their countries are ruled by murder and intimidation. The best course of action to take against that kind of evil would be to contain it as best we can (while encouraging good behavior as I stated in my previous point).
If we could only put up some kind of iron curtain...
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#264010
Topic
Global Warming
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
"Global Warming" is not the threat that people make it out to be. It is a mildly interesting phenomenon, but one that we have virtually no affect upon as human beings (as far as we know through our current science). Not true. Though you may choose to discount certain evidence, there is plenty to support the standpoint that the global average temperature is rising quicker than ever before and the only new factor to consider is us.
Originally posted by: Tiptup
According to the actual, hard science, we also do not know if our world is even in a warming period or a cooling period at this very moment. The science is simply too unclear. You seem to have a similar idea of "science" as you do of "islam". One big mass of stuff that threatens you. Except you seem to have divided "science" into "hard science" and "soft science". An interesting observation. We now have two types of "science" when we previously thought it was all alike. Interesting... Perhaps your radical theory could be applied to other things? "Hard muslims" and "soft muslims"? "Hard cheese" and "soft cheese"? Hey!! I've heard of that!! I think you're onto something!!!!
Originally posted by: Tiptup
All we can say for sure is that climate change has always existed on the earth and that it never hurts for us to keep it in mind (just so long as we don’t politicize it for selfish reasons). What, you mean like:Originally posted by: Tiptup
placing a handicap upon our economy in nonsensical ways (like with "Kyoto") will only slow down our technological progress, not speed it up.
???Originally posted by: Tiptup
If human beings are polluting the environment in unsustainable ways, increasing the global CO2 levels is probably not one of them.
Oh, wow! Thank God! Lay it on us, Professor Tiptup, where have all those other research scientists been going wrong? Show us your research, I'm sure your findings are irrefutable!!Originally posted by: Tiptup
Though I think we can all probably agree that pollution from our cars and factories is still undesirable (plus, I don't like how we're consuming all of the "fossil fuel" on our planet)
Whoa! Hold on there, Tex! I hope you're not suggesting that we "plac(e) a handicap upon our economy in nonsensical ways"?!!