adywan

Thanks for all the words of support guys.

I have stated many times that i won't be adding any music that wasn't already in the movie

The "arm around Han" error will have to remain as it can't be fixed. Filming a double wouldn't work either, even just to replace an arm. Some things just can't be fixed. Ad i know there are going to be people moaning that some of the errors remain but quite frankly i don't give a damn.

One error i'm really surprised no one has ever mentioned is the 2004 imperial insignia replacement monstrosity. Not only does the badge shift places between shots but when the officer turns the badge jumps all over the place and is one of the worse pieces of motion tracking for digital replacement in the movie.

i've fixed this and made the motion as he turns smoother so it doesn't look like the badge is jumping all over the place.

We don't know the full extent of Dad's cancer as yet but we know that once treatment begins i'm going to have to be caring for him. So i need to get this edit finished and out the way as soon as i can. I'm working all the hours i can finishing the video side of things while working on the miniatures and costumes etc. I'm still in desperate need of donations to get this thing finished. It's going to cost me even more for materials after Xmas when this bloody government introduce the VAT rise in January. Delivery charges and everything will rise. So if i can the remaining materials before Jan then it would be great.

And sorry to anyone who has been emailing or PMing me recently and haven't had a reply. I will get around to answering them whenever i can, but with no Internet access at my dads it isn't easy and it will take a while so please be patient.

I won't be redoing ANH:R. I have to move forward or i will never complete the saga. I did look into just doing a new audio track that could be easily replaced without losing any of the DVD-9 menus or features. But this is impossible because there is 1 shot that is a different length between the purist and proper revisited version and that is when Obi-Wan's cloak falls. You just can't sync the original audio to the sabre duel. 

There will always be bits that people don't like in any movie. If i tried to do an edit that would suit everyone then there would be thousands of different versions of ANH:R out there.

If you wanted to do this then you would have to re-edit both the video and audio. You would also need to add a music fadeout at the start of the conference scene because the original and new music do not match and you would have a very jarring cut or just use the purist cut down version of the reveal with the original music.

If someone wants to do it then fair enough but i won't be having anything to do with it or offering any help because i have too much on my plate at the moment and i need to finish ESB:R as soon as i can

part14 is there in the tehparadox download. Check the rars you downloaded and you will see one with a different name. Unpack that one into the same folder with all the other rars as it contains part14

Radi0n said:

Well, yes, that's exactly it. The point where he turns his head to see the falcon (not snowspeeder). I know you already fixed that point where he turns his head, but he seems to be turning it "inhumanely fast", don't you? His head turns too fast, way too fast, for it to be normal, even if it is just to queue it in time with the falcon turning round.

Or is that just me?

Yep, just you, i'm afraid. ;) There hasn't been any speeding up added to the clip or the original. Looks perfectly natural to me.

Radi0n said:

Adywan, I was watching your final ESB:R trailer again, and I noticed that around 0:51-0:52, when Luke spots the snowspeeder, his head/neck movement seems much too jarring. Did you notice that, and fix it?

It was supposed to be a fix already, but it seems much to stuttering now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtwBQpDl08&feature=related

I really haven't got a clue what you mean. Is it when he turns to see the falcon? Well if it is that has been fixed as can be seen in the trailer. There is nothing jarring about it and certainly no stuttering

ha ha , i'm on his ignore list too.

So i guess he won't see this then :)

gurgle1624 said:

Ady...is the timing of when Chewbacca goes up the ramp during their escape from Hoth going to be altered to fix the continuity error of him going up the ramp twice? You can see he goes up the ramp and is seen no more until they show a close up of Han going up the ramp and then Chewie starts about 3/4 of the way up the ramp to enter the Falcon again.

gurgle1624 said:

A more noticable continuty error that does bug me is right before Han says" That'll do nicely" 3PO's hands are entangled on Chewie's shoulder hair and then when the camera switches to show the front of chewie 3PO's hands are no where near his shoulders and Chewie's hair is smooth where a frame before it was a mess with 3PO's hands.

Any word on fixing this?

fixed and fixed

AuggieBenDoggie said:

Ady, are you just using the ships from the Matte, and you have built or will build the hanger in miniature?

Yes, i'm only using the ships. The rest will be a miniature. Looking at the scan closely i noticed that the closest transport is actually a photograph of the model. I always thought that this one looked too good to be a painting.

And yes, the edit has gone through a lot of changes since the first workprint

Yeh that's why i love this site :)

savmagoett you are a Saviour :) I really can't thank you enough. Just look at those original colours. So beautiful. Just PM me the link :)

It's really good to see you back. Would it be ok for me to PM you because i wanted to talk to you about the varying scales of the transport in the movie.

vaderios said:

adywan said:

And the crushed blacks in the 2004 version of ESB means i really can't use the original transport matte for my edit, so i'm stuck now

And i thought you will redo this shot with model props :(

 

-Angel

I only needed the transports that are in that matte as i don't have access to a studio scale model of the transports and the CG transports don't hold up very well at close range but were fine for background models. The rest of the hangar i would be building a miniature set, but without the transports it's hit a brick wall, and i certainly don't want to have to use the shot as it is now :(

this totally sucks. If he has the mattes in hi-res then i would be able to make a reconstruction of the pre-SE version of ANH so much better than having to use most of the GOUT stuff :(

And the crushed blacks in the 2004 version of ESB means i really can't use the original transport matte for my edit, so i'm stuck now

Why did he say no? I wouldn't be using the full versions of his mattes, just sections so they wouldn't be anything like the originals

Sevb32 said:

adywan said:

Monroville said:

Bossk makes a comment (in his language) and his lips nor jaw move at all.  It would be nice to add some subtle touches like eye blinks and some jaw/lip movement to account for the sounds/speech he is making.

But if you look at the scene he has already finished the comment before we cut to see his face so he isn't saying anything when we see him

 I thought you said somewhere earlier that you gave him some facial articulation.

Yes i did, but if you read the comment i was replying to he was talking about adding movements to account for his speech, which Bossk has already finished speaking before the camera cuts to him

Does anyone have a high-res picture of the matte painting used in this shot?

Monroville said:

Bossk makes a comment (in his language) and his lips nor jaw move at all.  It would be nice to add some subtle touches like eye blinks and some jaw/lip movement to account for the sounds/speech he is making.

But if you look at the scene he has already finished the comment before we cut to see his face so he isn't saying anything when we see him

kenkraly2007 said:

The quallity of the sounds is very good in full stereo hi-fi.

Thanks. I wish this was out already over here because i could really do with recording all these sounds for my edits

My god, kenkraly2007. Please just shut up about it. It seems as soon as someone mentions anything negative you chime in, but with the same thing over and over again. It seems like you're on a mission and pop up in many threads but say nothing new. I'm fed up with every time i come in to read new posts all i seem to read is you saying we're all going to be wrong about the blu-rays. I keep getting a feeling of deja vue

My god, kenkraly2007. Please just shut up about it. It seems as soon as someone mentions anything negative you chime in, but with the same thing over and over again. It seems like you're on a mission and pop up in many threads but say nothing new. I'm fed up with every time i come in to read new posts all i seem to read is you saying we're all going to be wrong about the blu-rays. I keep getting a feeling of deja vue

;)

A B C said:

adywan said:

 

 It also mirrored their first encounter, which is why i used the music...

 

I really wondered when I saw your ANH:R, why did (or do) you care to refer to the prequels that way. Is it important ? Besides, who tells in five years or so, you won't have the will, and perhaps the ways, to change these things you refer to now ? (Perhaps you already planned? Then, don't tell).

 

That is why there are 2 versions of ANH:R - the regular DVD and the purist.  The purist is for those that don't want anything to do with the prequels so the music during the battle is gone along with Darth Vader's theme . While the regular version is to be viewed as a 6 film saga and will also work with the prequels as they are officially

I really want this book but it isn't released here until late October :(

What is the quality of the sounds like if listened to through headphones?

vaderios said:

adywan said:

I still prefer the idea that it's a forming star.

Thats the problem when similar things are lookalike.

dont forget the sunrise sunset debate ;)

 

-Angel

But isn't that the whole point of what makes a good movie. It enables the audience to interpret things their own way instead of having everything spelled out for them (like the bloody PT)

I'm not going to be changing the way it looks. I've loved that star ever since 1980. Some things just don't need to be changed.

I still prefer the idea that it's a forming star. It symbolizes a new beginning. They have all just gone through hell. They have suffered a heavy defeat and been forced to abandon their base on Hoth, they have been betrayed at Bespin and have lost their friend, Luke has suffered not only the loss of his hand but also just found out that the person he hates the most is his father.

Now Lando is off with Chewie to find Han, his character fully changed from bad guy to good guy and they head off towards the star. A new beginning for him too.

I have never liked the idea of it's a galaxy. It's moving too fast for one and its bright center looks more like a star than the center of the galaxy.

Just because it was said the be the galaxy in 2003 doesn't mean to say it was originally intended to be just that. I don't believe most things that are said about the trilogy since the early 90's because it just seems that they change the history all the time.

Here's a video flicking through the book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M33DGLsLyuU&NR=1

There's a quick glimpse at a matte painting of the millennium falcon that is from ROTJ. I wonder what that is doing in there?

kenkraly2007 said:

For those that want to say that the films of star wars will not be re-mixed for and fixed blu-ray are wrong their have been articles all over the net saying that the the audio will be fixed and re-mixed for the blu-ray release. It won't be the same bad audio tracks that was on the dvd releases of episodes 4, 5, and 6. 

No articles say they will be "fixed" and there will never be any official word from any LFL employees that there was anything wrong with the ANH 2004 audio. Why? because if they ever admitted that the audio on that disc was screwed up and not a "creative decision" they would be in deep shit as it would spur a flood of demands for replacement discs that would also lead to legal actions and could cost LFL millions.

We're getting further changes to the audio mix with Obi-Wan's howl so god knows what else is going to be changed.You can't blame anyone for being very wary about both the audio and video side of things with the blu-rays, especially with Lucasfilms inferior quality control track record in the past few years

skyjedi2005 said:

Will anybody be buying the blu ray to use as a base to restore the oot, since Lucas a billionaire cannot release it.

yes, i will be. I'm only going to buy the set for my edits. If i wasn't working on the edits then i wouldn't buy them. I'm developing ways to not have to use a full frame from the GOUT to make a EPIV reconstruction in the highest quality i can. Will it be possible? I won't know until i see whats actually on these sets but i'm hopeful  that i can pull it off

Jetrell Fo said:

Makes you wonder how far reaching Darth Luca's grasp really is......or if the missing member was just spreading Sith propaganda.....

;)

 

No, there was other stuff happening. Things got back on track recently but then he associated himself with a certain someone that was doing a Star Wars restoration, and was ultimately going to keep this version to himself, and then just shut me out ignoring my emails

that's a 2004 change. That sky is there in the '97 version