adywan

I have just got this Pm from him. Normally i wouldn't post something like this but people should know what a worthless piece of shit he really is

Kenobius Prime said:

Fuck you, you worthless piece of fucking shit.  I only wanted my money back because YOU obviously never wanted to be friends with me again.  Just because you are "famous" in fan editing and Star Wars circles, does NOT give you the right to treat people the way you do, you fucking asshat motherfucker.  YOU said you would contact me right after Christmas, YOU decided not to and called me fucking names in the process.  All it would have taken was 10 seconds of your oh so precious time, douchebag.

YOU rot in fucking hell, you bastard fuck.

Ripplin said:

£50 overdrawn fee?! That seems quite excessive. And shouldn't Paypal have contacted you first?

yes, the £10 donation plus the £37 overdrawn fee. It was refunded and this took me overdrawn. If i hadn't refunded it would turn into a dispute and matters could get worse

Well the project has stalled yet again, thanks to a certain member of these boards being a dick. I posted this in the "let Jedi Tray back in" thread so i'll copy it into here so you all can see what has been going on:

adywan said:

Kenobius prime/ jedi tray, whatever your fucking name is i really wished they had banned your ass permanently, no matter what stupid alias you use .

You bombarded me with emails/pms on virtually every site i visit when you got banned like some psycho stalker. I told you to what you did wrong and to just keep a low profile as your constant harrassment towards some members, and multiple new accounts would just make matters worse for yourself. Then i also asked you not to contact me until after the christmas period because of all the things i had going on in my personal life, which you were fully aware of.But you still kept contacting me all through this time

Now, since christmas i have not been able to reply to most emails/ PM's ive been getting because i'm at my dads most of the time caring for him because he started his chemotherapy. He doesn't have an internet connection so i'm having to use a pay as you go internet dongle, so accessing my emails would use a lot of this limited bandwidth, so i leave those until i get home and just visit the boards instead. Plus, i haven't got the time at the moment to reply to most PM's so have to go through them when i can in order of when they were sent to me.

Well i've had a night off tonight because my brother has come up and taken over for the night and i decided to start going through all the emails and PM's and saw one from you which has really pissed me off. An email from paypal because you have demanded the donation you made towards ESB:R back. Well thanks for screwing me over you asshole. The bank account used for the ESB:R paypal fund is empty, but paypal have withdrawn the money from my empty bank account which has now cause me to incur a £50 overdrawn fee (thats approx $80 to you). All this for a £10 donation. So i guess you only donated to get the attention you craved along with the emperor clip and when you weren't getting the replies you wanted and now you have been let back in here i was no longer of any use to you so you decide to screw me over. Now i have to try and fine the money from somewhere to pay this off, which is the last thing i really wanted to have to worry about at this point in time.

You are so lucky that you live nowhere near me because if i saw you face to face right now i wouldn't be responsible for my actions. You are scum and an attention seeking little whore.

Screw you and your crappy little vinyl project. I hope you rot in hell. You are the lowest of the low

Kenobius prime/ jedi tray, whatever your fucking name is i really wished they had banned your ass permanently, no matter what stupid alias you use .

You bombarded me with emails/pms on virtually every site i visit when you got banned like some psycho stalker. I told you to what you did wrong and to just keep a low profile as your constant harrassment towards some members, and multiple new accounts would just make matters worse for yourself. Then i also asked you not to contact me until after the christmas period because of all the things i had going on in my personal life, which you were fully aware of.But you still kept contacting me all through this time

Now, since christmas i have not been able to reply to most emails/ PM's ive been getting because i'm at my dads most of the time caring for him because he started his chemotherapy. He doesn't have an internet connection so i'm having to use a pay as you go internet dongle, so accessing my emails would use a lot of this limited bandwidth, so i leave those until i get home and just visit the boards instead. Plus, i haven't got the time at the moment to reply to most PM's so have to go through them when i can in order of when they were sent to me.

Well i've had a night off tonight because my brother has come up and taken over for the night and i decided to start going through all the emails and PM's and saw one from you which has really pissed me off. An email from paypal because you have demanded the donation you made towards ESB:R back. Well thanks for screwing me over you asshole. The bank account used for the ESB:R paypal fund is empty, but paypal have withdrawn the money from my empty bank account which has now cause me to incur a £47 overdrawn fee (thats approx $80 to you). If i hadn't refunded immediately i could see you taking this further with paypal.  All this for a £10 donation. So i guess you only donated to get the attention you craved along with the emperor clip and when you weren't getting the replies you wanted and now you have been let back in here i was no longer of any use to you so you decide to screw me over. Now i have to try and fine the money from somewhere to pay this off, which is the last thing i really wanted to have to worry about at this point in time.

You are so lucky that you live nowhere near me because if i saw you face to face right now i wouldn't be responsible for my actions. You are scum and an attention seeking little whore.

Screw you and your crappy little vinyl project. I hope you rot in hell. You are the lowest of the low

vaderios said:

The small portion over luke's left eye (from viewer's pov)

cmon its there too lazy to make an arrow.

 

-Angel

Better look again because that's part of the gun over his left eye or are you seeing his head set earpiece?

Cantina Scene said:

Fwiw the star field should not move by in the background like it does, as if it's a landscape passing by.

Which part are you talking about?

I'll await your complete batch of "mistakes" Vaderios before i reply so i can do it all in one go

doubleofive said:

 

I was just wondering what we should call this new version. HENCEFORTH it shall be known as ANHRSE.

 

lol. At first glance i read that as ARSE.

This one will be my true vision. The others were only "workprints". When "Revisited:Special Edition" comes out only a handful of fanboys will cry out for the original version to be restored and preserved in HD, but it would be too expensive for me to ............

ARRRRGGHHHHHHHHH. WHAT HAVE I BECOME!!!!!

vaderios said:

Pity. most of the mistakes and the errors even the 2d layers will be in your face now with the HD.

 

-Angel

Well you don't have to watch it if all these so called mistakes will be in your face because it will be in HD. I'd love to know what all these mistakes you keep talking about are

doubleofive said:

 

adywan said:

There will be some differences because i can't recreate it 100% faithfully but it will be as close as possible. But i won't be taking any suggestions for changes/ fixes for the HD version

Add that to the first post.

 

Done.

There will be some differences because i can't recreate it 100% faithfully but it will be as close as possible. But i won't be taking any suggestions for changes/ fixes for the HD version

slight mistake. It should be "2016" not "2012". I'm watching the 2012 blu-ray at the moment. oops.

The colour for the theatrical & '97 AVCHD was never fully completed. For Revisited, ESB has gone through a few more colour passes since i did this to restore the blue, without tinting the whole picture.  The theatrical reconstruction was a last minute decision and i knocked it up in 2 weeks so it would be out for the 30th anniversary.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

none said:

The idea that their monitors are a different class then the TVs in most people's homes, provides another wrinkle to how the films look different dependent upon the equipment you use.

The claim that ESB came out too blue because they were using better monitors is, frankly, laughable.

exactly. It's just more spin to try to make out there is nothing wrong with the colouring done on the 2004 set. Here's an example below that blows the "we were using better monitors" excuse right out of the water. Now nothing has been done to these two images. These frames are as they appear in the 2004 transfer:

Now how the hell can they say that the colour problems are sown to consumer monitors? Now, although these are 2 separate shots in the edited scene, you can see that they are originally one longer shot that was split for editing purposes. Now why would the colouring be so different if the colouring was correct? Do they have magical monitors that adjust the colours between shots so that everything looks perfect? No. And why was the first shot NEVER green in any other transfers of ESB that had ever been done? Do they really think that people are so dumb that they will believe that the set looks so bad because its the consumer equipment at fault? well to be honest yes, there are those who argue that the colours are perfect as its "George's true vision" and that Hoth should be completely blue because it's an ice planet etc. But what about those who have correctly calibrated monitors? Is this guy trying to say that Lucasfilm have the only monitors in the world that are correct? Bull.

Just sent you an email JD with the proof

OCP is definitely selling your DVD's and i have the list he sent someone to prove it. Haven't heard of the person on youtube but i'll let you know if i hear anything

I noticed someone over there posted this:

originally posted by TheCassidy

@ Vidiot - are you aware of, and have you ever visited the Forums at originaltrilogy.com?

Your info would be very interesting to a lot of people over there who critique the work, often baseless, and go to great lengths to "correct the films" themselves.

You should check it out sometime, if you haven't already.

lol

captainsolo said:

Over on the steve hoffman forum there's an ongoing thread for the blu release:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=238224

One poster actually worked on the 04 transfer and has given some insight about the coloring etc.:

George only came in during the mornings on Tuesdays and Thursdays and would approve new shots, review old shots, and revise stuff as needed. The rest of the time, I just used my best judgement to get the shots in the ballpark. But everything you see is 100% what he wanted. The 2004 version was the first (and so far, the only) time that the home video transfers were exactly what the director intended you to see.

Wayneklein earlier is correct: they pretty much have 2K scans of everything, even some trims and unused scenes, so master copies exist in a sense. But the original Kodak 5247 camera negatives are extremely beat-up and turning magenta (fading yellow & cyan layers), and it's not going to last much longer.

The problem is, the restoration was only done on the new version, not the unused shots from the original "classic" version. The expense of cleaning all those up and then conforming the 1977 version would be pretty astronomical.

Originally Posted by captainsolo

Vidiot, do you think that the final 04 version reflected the original film (instead of George's wishes) in any way in regards to color? Comparing to photos of prints, cells, and even over saturating the 06 bonus release it doesn't match.

Yeah, I was in a room that was just down the hall from the big screening room in Building C at the old Kerner Blvd. facility. We occasionally would adjourn and go down there and compare what I was doing to a print. Now, I think these were the 1997 prints, but those were timed and supervised by George at the lab. Again, it's all a subjective call; these are not absolutes in terms of right or wrong. Lucas is very, very astute when it comes to photographic issues; he actually lit part of Star Wars himself (like the trash compactor scene), so he knows color timing backwards, forwards and sideways.

Originally Posted by Ziggysane

The original trilogy all appear to skew towards a blue/cool tint (forgive my lay assessment), despite being worked on by different colorists.

They lean towards what the director wanted. I did most of Jedi, all of New Hope, along with Rich Garibaldi doing some of the final touches; Natasha Leonett and Rich did Empire. But we all worked in the same room and could see each other's work as still frames. All three of us are credited on the bonus disc.

We'll traditionally lean the whites towards blue to give them a "whiter" look, and I did that in the opening shots of New Hope because of the corridors and stormtroopers. On a monitor set to 6500-degree whites, it's going to look fine; on a consumer monitor with very bluish whites, it'll be too blue. I watched the DVDs (and seen the 2K digital projection), and they look fine to me.

Someone who thinks that the colours look fine to them really should never work on the colouring of a film ever again. Even on a properly calibrated monitor the colours still looks like crap and are too "blue", even changing intensity /hue from shot to shot. This is why i can see that the colours will NEVER be fixed, because they try to tell us that there isn't a problem and its all down to our viewing setups. And again we here the bull  on how astronomically expensive it would be to restore the original versions, when they already have everything scanned.

Is kenkraly just copying and pasting the same comments on every site that mentions the blu-rays? he mus have commented the same stuff on dozens of sites already and surely there si no way you can spell august wrong so many times.

ah, i think i can  see where your problem might be with the DVD-5. You are using +R and not -R. A lot of players have problems playing +R recorded DVD-5 discs. Always use -R discs when burning a DVD-5 and you'll probably find your problem goes away. So -R discs for DVD-5, +R discs for DVD-9

it depends on which filter you use in vegas. Colour corrector using the wheel method as above for shadows, midtones and highlights individually. Looking at the colour wheel for each value move the centre dot in the opposite direction to the colour on the wheel you want to reduce. If it's yellow and you are using the other filter colour balance then move the green slider down and some of the red.Yellow is the mixture of red and green. There is don definitive values to use so you would need a lot of trial and error here to get the effect you desire

But if it's just a yellow colour you want to reduce in saturation then unfortunately vegas can't do this for individual colours, which i why i use Adobe After effects for all of my colour correction as vegas is a little too basic. If using after effects then use the colour correction>hue/saturation and you can change each individuals colour with a lot better results

That sounds like a bad burn. What are you using to burn the image? A way to tell if there is something wrong with the original file or the burn is to mount the original ISO file using virtual clone drive (google it, it's free) then try playing the mounted image.

But when you say it's black & white then are you in a PAL region? Because this sounds like a problem with NTSC playing on some PAL systems

Just remux the m2v to a mpeg2 file. I use tmpeg to do this and Vegas can then import it

Kenobius Prime said:

Here's video of the actual announcement.  Absolute pants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q05CunZ82o0

 

That was the big announcement? that was embarrassingly bad.