Davnes007 said:
Does Han shoot first on the Blu-Ray?
Or will the scene be changed so that nobody fires, and they discuss the problem in a fair and peaceful manner?
They both go to pull their guns but none of them can shoot because they're only carrying walkie-talkies
Monroville said:
Ripplin said:
I like the idea of the entrance to the meditation room either being guarded or extended (like in vaderios' old mock-up) being brought up again. Makes sense that it would be more secluded, not open so that every no-name Imperial noob could see Vader in his big black egg as they walk by, especially if he has his helmet off.
Or at least another set of doors behind Piett to serve as an airlock... Vader is in that suit for a reason, and to have one set of doors where everyone's germs can get in and infect him (being that the pod was open for Piett to see his knarly head BEFORE the helmet was lowered and re-attached to his suit) wouldn't serve a Sith Lord too well if the one thing that killed him was the common flu.
I'm not going to be adding anything to the doors or behind them. I'm going to keep this shot exactly the way it always has been. It makes more sense to me that the chamber would be just off from the bridge control room. Anyone walking outside would be able to see vader inside the camber anyway. Just look at the height of the largest bottom sides of the chamber. There is one directly between vader and the door, so you wouldn't see him in there. The meditation chamber itself would have some sort of force field to protect him then when he has his mask off.
Also the mask could be take off in one piece as this is a mechanical device that takes it off then re-fits it. Luke had to take Vaders mask off manually in ROTJ so wouldn't have had the electronic devices needed to remove it all in one. (well this is my interpretation on it anyway), so no fix needed here, especially when the scene where he gets the suit won't be seen in ROTS:R anyway.
Monroville said:
I guess a couple of points to bring up too:
(1) will the holo room walls be toned to grey to match the meditation room wall colors?
(2) will there be anything coming out of the "red lights" on the posts to indicate the hologram projector(s) (nothing as harsh as say when R2 projects a hologram, but maybe have the red lights turn brighter blue and flicker a bit - even if there is no hint of a projector beam - just to show that the holo-room is on and active).
1. The walls have been toned down but not grey as the walls in the chamber have a blue tint to them which has nothing to do with the 2004 colouring
2. no
DarthJarJar said:
Why does he communicate with Ozzle via a monitor, but with his ground troops and the Emperor via hologram? It is inconsistent. Do you plan to address this Ady?
no. no problem here. He communicates through hologram to all off ship personnel but uses the monitor for on board communication.
muddyknees2000 said:
I've got another quick question concerning cloud city......if you dont mind. Theres an establishing shot of leia up in a tower through a window.....this is the scene where she indicates she's worried about c3po.....in the establishing shot of the scene, pre SE, there used to be a pod car lifting off from a landing platform, and its engine slowly came on and got brighter before it flies off.......and in the SE, they've actually added another shot of the pod lifting off from the platform, but its engine is already on, and THEN they cut to the original shot (or a new one made to look like the old), a few seconds past its original start, meaning that the engine no longer comes on, its just on. It was a tiny detail, but I always liked it......are you restoring little things like that, or no?
No, i won't be restoring that effect. tracking the ship in the previous SE shot and replacing it with a new ship which replacing background elements that are all moving would be a nightmare, all for just a small effect. Also, the building position problems between the SE and the older matte will have to stay. I made a new matte and placed the buildings/platform in the correct position and boy did the shot looks bad. The composite just didn't look right at all. It has been slightly tweaked, but the positioning remains almost the same
The Golden Idol said:
Hey Ady, I'm very sorry to hear about your health, feel better! I really hope none of ESB:R was lost when your motherboard was fried. :(
Still in a lot of pain and my face is the size of a football thanks to the abscess but on the positive side nothing was lost when the board fried. It was all down to the new heatsink/fan i installed on the board. The northbridge was getting too hot with the standard pipe/heatsink and this was affecting the heat inside the case and the board itself, so i replaced it with a fan based one. The thing is that the fan failed and the board then failed to shut down, like it is supposed to do upon fan failure, and the northbridge burned out part of the board. It was usable for a while, but running at a much lower speed and with half the memory slots disabled but after a few days it gave up. looking for a new one now although this will take a while to afford. Unfortunately aswell the guarantee is void due to changing the northbridge cooling. I suspect that it was the board that actually failed and shut the fan down as none of the case fans that were attached to the board were running when i discovered what happened, but they all worked perfectly once the pc was restarted.
ImperialFighter said:
And while I remember, here's something else I've been meaning to bring up adywan, and I've included a few shots for easier judging -
Do you reckon that the black, circular 'hologram' prop seen in shots 1, 3, and 4 is actually missing from shot 2, or not?
Should we still be able to see a little bit of it, or not? Or has shot 2 just been filmed from a deceiving angle?
1.
it probably should be in shot but the holograms are also in a different position so the pod should be behind them anyway so i won't be changing this
you know what, something just occurred to me. What if a lot of the deleted scenes on the Blu-Ray set for the OT are the scenes/shots taken out by the SE? Because after all these are deleted scenes now, right?. But would they be in HD or SD even if they did something like that?
rpvee said:
adywan said:
Maybe they've had the new transfer ready for years. We did see the new Yoda as early as 2005.
yes they have. this was documented in an interview years ago that they had the HD transfer ready for a Blu-Ray release
But specifically for Menace, right? Because if they'd been working on it for a while (by the time the Yoda clip came out the film was already six years old), then maybe since then they've been working on Clones and Sith, and haven't reached the OT yet.
No, they were talking about the OT. That was done and ready to go, so in other words they wouldn't be doing anything else to it.
rpvee said:
adywan said:
dark_jedi said:
I agree, I don't believe this trailer is any indication at all of what the set will look like, but people like to complain anyways instead of just waiting.
ok then, answer me this: If the trailer is no indication of what the blu-ray set will look like and that they have just used stock footage from the old releases, as some people have said, then why have they used the new transfer for TPM? Wouldn't that be the old footage too?
Maybe they've had the new transfer ready for years. We did see the new Yoda as early as 2005.
yes they have. this was documented in an interview years ago that they had the HD transfer ready for a Blu-Ray release
dark_jedi said:
adywan said:
dark_jedi said:
I agree, I don't believe this trailer is any indication at all of what the set will look like, but people like to complain anyways instead of just waiting.
ok then, answer me this: If the trailer is no indication of what the blu-ray set will look like and that they have just used stock footage from the old releases, as some people have said, then why have they used the new transfer for TPM? Wouldn't that be the old footage too?
You know Ady I have a TON of respect for you and ALL your work, but I am not going to argue over something that is NOT going to be in our hands for another 8-9 months, I am just agreeing with the other guy that the trailer might have been just a slapped together piece of SH*T! and that there ARE people on this forum that like to complain about things just to complain, hell it is already going on in this thread, can I not comment on that? I find it very funny that this happens, because as I said, WE meaning ALL of us here, have not seen the set yet and won't for a long time yet, I myself, am hoping, that all these premature complaints are wrong, but only time will tell, so do you have anything else you want to direct at me?
wow, DJ, calm down. I was only putting a valid point across to you or am i not allowed to reply to something you have said on an open forum? Yours was the last post that mentioned this so i replied, or should i have listed every other one too?
dark_jedi said:
I agree, I don't believe this trailer is any indication at all of what the set will look like, but people like to complain anyways instead of just waiting.
ok then, answer me this: If the trailer is no indication of what the blu-ray set will look like and that they have just used stock footage from the old releases, as some people have said, then why have they used the new transfer for TPM? Wouldn't that be the old footage too?
doubleofive said:
THAT will be interesting to hear if its fixed. It's supposed to be a new sound mix, right?rockin said:
TV's Frink said:Yeah like the reversed surround sound in ANH, LOL.
Fixing it would be admitting it was a mistake rather than a "creative choice."
Ain't gonna happen.
yes, it was confirmed that ANH has had a new sound mix.
It will probably be over £100 here in the UK. Usually you can just substitute the $ sign with a £ sign. Just shows how ripped off we are over here
This is what really annoys me in the press blub:
Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray will feature all six live-action Star Wars feature films utilizing the highest possible picture and audio presentation,..
Highest possible picture presentation? With all the screwed up colouring of the OT and the lightsabre gaffs to start off with? I really use to respect LFL for being pioneers in picture and audio quality, always striving to present the movies in the best quality, but now they're too pig-headed to admit that there is anything wrong with these transfers but they will spend the time & money to restore TPM's and include the CG Yoda. It really shows now just how much GL hates the OT. I guess all the prequel lovers will be happy though
Well the trailer for the Blu-Ray is up now. The OT colours are exactly the same as 2004 but yet again they use the new transfer for TPM. Well hopefully this will shut the kenkraly's of this world up now. THE COLOURS WILL NOT BE FIXED FOR THE BLU-RAY. It's the official LFL trailer and you can clearly see that even the crappy sabres are the same as 2004. Just looks at the crossed sabres in front of the Emperor.
http://starwars.com/video/view/001175.html
So September 2011. Couldn't have timed it better. Now i won't have to part with any money for this set but instead get it brought for me for my wedding anniversary ;)
Another program that you could use is MultiAVCHD as this converts HD to DVD and the result is better quality than ConvertX
TML, what do you use to make the crawl? Looks pretty good. Just something i noticed though, the Star Wars logo doesn't disappear it just becomes static and then gets covered by the crawl
muddyknees2000 said:
Ady...noticed on the ESB:R facebook page that you were contemplating moving release to the end of 2011...did you ever make a decision on that?
yes, i thinks a more realistic goal really. Plus i really do now want to see what's on the Blu-Rays just in case there is anything i could use
Moth3r said:
Almost perfect, but if anyone wanted to take a shot at their own theatrical reconstruction there are some improvements that could be made. There were occasional choices in colouring that made faces and skin look waxy and artifical, and some crushed black levels look photographically anomalous. I suppose this was a limitation in the source.
yeh, the skin tone & crushed blacks thing is a problem with the 2004 transfer. sometimes the skintones don't have any highlights and are all one shade so it was impossible to restore these without rotoscoping sections to add new highlights which would have taken forever.
I would go with the recommendation of Imgburn, especially since it's going to be a DVD-9. Nero is pretty crap at setting the layer break and isn't too good for reliable burns either when compared to IMGburn
I guess now kenkraly has gone for good, we can now get back to some normality (although i fear he will be back again pretty soon)
So what would the one thing be, if changed in the Blu-Ray OT, that would cause the biggest fan outrage since Greedo shooting?
I think i'm going to leave it the way it is. I think you would see a slight edge of the steps but it's so dark in that area it wouldn't really show up anyway. And the pylon is an actual set piece and is just a slight different design. Nothing to fix there. The floor in both chambers would be flat and it would indeed be a figure 8
I haven't got time to look at everything yet as i'm on my way out, but here's a picture of the actual chamber set from a different angle. one thing i do know is that there is nothing wrong with the pylon as it's the actual set. Only the top section, the ceiling, is a matte
If the SE cut retains the original lines then the SE one would be great. But does this one have the original emperor lines or the 2004 version?
The Golden Idol said:
I know this is off-topic, but can someone please tell me who this "kenkraly" is and why he's in Ady's avatar and user title? And before anyone tells me to use the search function, I did, but it only yielded 3 results, all from 2008. o.O
It all started about here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-coming-to-Blu-Ray/post/440378/#TopicPost440378
It gets so much better as its goes on.
Clear your cache guys. you'll love my new avatar
kenkraly2007 said:
You guys are so mean. I'm done finished once and for all and I am not coming back. When you guys realies what you do to nice people like me you will be sorry.
Oh, I'm sorry already. Sorry that i may share the same chromosomes as someone like you
As Vera Lynn once said....... "We'll meet again. Don't know where. Don't know when. But i know we'll meet again, some sunny day"....
BUAHHHHHHHH
TML said:
kenkraly2007 said:
allright adywan I'm sorry not stop picking on me right now. I did'nt know the video was A fake I should of never trusted that guy.
Not stop picking on you? Are you trying reverse psychology on us?
Well i can do that if you want...
LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUMBLEEEEE....
There was a young LAIR name of Ken
Who created a clip in his den
But when they found out it was fake
His pants filled with butt cake
Now he's gone, No he's here back again
