adywan

Monroville said:

Yup... don't forget the fantastic scale work Savmagoett has already done:

rescaling the foot on a still image is one thing, but actually doing it on a moving image is completely different. I know, i've tried. The main problem is that part of Lukes body covers the foot as it crushes the snowspeeder. Scale that foot up and you have a huge section of lukes body. It isn't so easy to cover that up, especially when the foot flipper is moving. The only way to do it would be to create a new CG foot or build a new foot and speeder miniature.

ImperialFighter said:

But I notice that the tiny Cloud-Car in the distance is not visible anymore.  I'm hoping it's movement outside the window will still be noticeable, now that you've further tweaked the shot you originally showed. 

It's an earlier frame than the original one posted. The sky traffic is still the same in the final version.

here is todays Christmas preview; (click to view full version)

emanswfan said:

convenient! I'm working on th ROTJ deleted scenes right now. But, I could really need some help on the BD ripping process, I was just going into my ripped footage and it doesn't seem to have compresssed properly or something, as I could see compression artifacts I didn't see on my tv. I'm using DVDFab trial, as I don't know what's the best ripping software.

use ANYDVD HD. You can rip the whole blu-ray to your hard drive without any recompression

emanswfan said:

So, I've been playing aorund with the deleted scenes and they CAN definately be cleaned up to look of equal quality to the rest of the footage, they just take longer than other color correction and other image enhacement jobs.

Is there any chance you can show some examples? I know the interior Falcon scenes with the troops and the blue milk scene are high enough quality that they could possibly be incorporated with little clean up, but the rest are such hit and miss quality wise that even cleaning up scratched etc they would still stick out when placed next to the blu-ray footage. I'd love to see what you were able to do on any of the other scenes through

Don't think for one moment that every picture or video i post is ever 100% the final version ;)If i did that then there would be nothing left to show in its final release

Well after seeing Yoda on the new TPM 3D promotional poster i think the case is now at rest. Puppet Yoda wins... No one can really say that this green CG testicle with ears looks more realistic than the ESB puppet ;)

To me the original has always sounded better. The new one is laughable at best. It is just two guys making stupid noises and stuck through a bog standard effects chamber. It never needed to sound more human. It sounded great that he could imitate a creature which scared the Tuskens. Now when i watch this scene and hear that new howl i keep expecting the Tusken's to tuen, pause then fall about on the floor laughing. And, yes i know they are supposed to be easily startled, but if they can be scared off by a silly whooping noise then how can they be so feared? It makes the scene in AOTC, when they talk about the Tusken raid and how many died pathetic. They should have just all made some silly noises and the Tuskens would have legged it ;)

Ignore the last comparison screenshot i posted. I thought something looked off but i was rendering a large chunk of the movie and couldn't check the tiumeline to make sure it was the correct pic. well it's just finished rendering and i posted an earlier test snapshot by mistake. This is the correct shot:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/99525

Angel said:

There is a mask error on the tube on the top right corner(triangular shape) in your pic.

Amazing job on this one, good riddance matte lines :D

-Angel

It's ok, it's after effects being a shit. There isn't even a mask created in that area, especially that shape so i don't know how that section is missing. It's only on that screengrab on that one frame, but i'm pretty sure it's not in the full render. I'm having all sorts of hell with after effects recently, so i'm usually having to render everything a few times. I need to wipe the drive and reinstall everything soon, but i'm trying to put it off until i've finished ESB:R

Something that was missing from the latest clip......

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/99474

As 005 stated, the rails are split into sections. you can see this clearly in other shots of the gantry. Your interpretation of where the saber slashes is incorrect. You seem to have based it on the whole blade of the saber slicing the wall when in fact only the tip would have made contact with it with the angle of Vader's swing, so my placement is correct. I went through it frame by frame to get the placement correct. Plus, since that clip was originally rendered months ago, i had finished the rotoscoping of the sabers as these weren't 100% completed at the time. The blade was made slightly longer because it doesn't even come in contact with the wall, so this was fixed plus you can see when the saber slices through the rail its on the wrng side of the rail instead of slicing through it.  But even with the blade its original length it doesn't cut anywhere near the door entrance edge

bspaunhorst said:

I noticed this last night when watching ESB on TV, so I assume it has not been fixed yet.

When Luke arrives on Dagobah and R2 gets taken under water, you see a person run across the screen back in the fog.  Almost reminiscent of some Bigfoot footage.  :)

That's Luke.

ImperialFighter, the flipped shot of the chasm has only been flipped. Nothing else has been done to it apart from colour correction so the shape of it remains exactly the same as the original.

As for the hilt , the pictures you posted actually show why it was changed. Look at the position he is holding it and you will see that the shorter section of the tip is central between his thumb and forefinger. Then we see the close-up when it retracts and we are seeing it from the view of the back f his hand so we shouldn't see the emitter at all but the back of the saber. You can see this also in the shots after the closeup which way he is holding it. So if we were to see the emitter then he would have had to twisted his lightsaber 108 degrees for one shot only to twist it back in the following shots. For the new tip i took a photograph of the replica Vader hilt i have in the correct position it should be and rotoscoped that in.

ImperialFighter said:

 

1.  I've only studied this clip on my laptop screen, so the details are very small and I can't see if you've added a faint orange (or black?) 'scorch mark'/'lightsaber burn' to the 'Vane' immediately after Vader takes his 2nd swipe at Luke near the doorway, or not...

Here's how things look in your clip immediately after Vader's 2nd swipe -

...I think you've added a brief hint of 'smoke' here, but if you haven't already, do you think you could add a hint of the 'scorch' behind the railing too? (perhaps only as thick as the faint 'panel lines' that are just visible nearby?)...as it would probably be noticeable on a bigger monitor, and would tie-in nicely with when we then cut to the still glowing 'scorch mark'/'lightsaber burn' that you've added to the 'close-up' afterwards. 

Or would it be too hidden behind the 'walkway' railing at the angle we see Vader swiping twice anyway?  I can't really tell from the small screen size I'm looking at, unfortunately, but see what you think.

The scorch mark behind the railings has been added in that clip. It is visible when viewed on a larger screen

darth_ender said:

Maybe this has been noted elsewhere, but I think I just discovered something surprising and cool.  Watching The Lost Rebels deleted scene from ROTJ, and the Mon Calamari sounds like Jim Henson/Kermit the Frog/Ernie to me.  I thought, "I know George Lucas wanted Jim before he considered Frank Oz for Yoda.  Maybe he finally got him to participate."  Then at 4:47, the director is talking to him and calls him Jim!  This may be old news to everyone, but I'm pretty sure that's Jim Henson under that Mon Calamari suit!

No, he says Tim because it was Tim Rose who was the puppeteer. 

http://youtu.be/7_WckG-GC9s

doubleofive said:

The Glee Christmas episode is up for HuluPlus members. Anyone going to risk it, or do I have to?

It was on SKY1 tonight and i decided to check it out. What a mistake that was. How the hell can people actually watch this crap? Well, after all the hype about chewie being in it he was on screen for all  of about 3 seconds. It was a blink and miss it cameo. The only other star wars related stuff was the opening of their TV special, which was a nod to the holiday special opening titles and 2 characters dressed as Luke and Han. That was it. And boy was it cringe-worthy. I wanted to gouge out my eyes and rip off my ears after watching that.

This is what the Phantom menace puppet should have looked like:

http://youtu.be/cLeCDqtBAIs

the problem you have with the corrupt video part is that you extracted the ISO file. Your best way would have been to use IMGBURN (google it, its a free burning program). when you run the program select "write image file to disc" and select the original ISO file, pop in your DL DVD+R, set the write speed to 2.4x and burn the disc. If you need it to fit onto a DVD-5 (Single layer) then just run the whole thing through DVDShrink. yes you will lose some quality but it will still be better quality than converting it to mp4 then back to DVD

Sevb32 said:

Everything looks amazing, but I have wondered why Vader's saber looks so short at 1:12 on the clip. Anyone else spot this? It's always looked that way.

It's the angle he is holding it at. The saber is the correct length.

Ah, i see what's being said now thanks to aalenfae's explanation. i just could see what angel was trying to say. well the clip isn't a new render and was an older render of this scene which i was going to upload for the 2nd unit quite a few months ago, but forgot about it with everything that happened with my father. As you can see in the clip the overhead matte shots are incomplete, but these were completed in October. Also there have been a few other tweaks since this original render and the gantry shot was not complete ( in this one the gantry shot had the lightsabers with an added motion blur which was just a test to see if they flowed better, but is not in the completed shot). I had this clip lying around and had forgotten about it so used this for the xmas clip. I prefer not to post fully completed scenes because i  like to keep things until the final edit. much of the masking layers were incomplete when this video was originally rendered and was more to be used as a test to check masks etc before rendering the final version. So the lightsaber glows around the masks along with the slight white edge on the cape later on in the scene weren't complete back then. here is a shot that shows a completed frame:

oh_riginal said:

adywan said:

Now i need to go back and read through a lot of pages to try and catch up.

I would like to take this opportunity to bring up old mock-up ideas that I made, and see if you would like to use them in ESB:R or not.

 

Vader's saber spark with smoke and added audio change:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF-mZxhprVQ

 

Han Solo's cave locating skills:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKGFj5OYY9Q

and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4An0G1pFiU

 

I had other mockups, but I recall you saying you would not use them. These are the only ones I think you didn't state an opinion for originally, so I thought I'd dig them up.

I'm pretty sure i did answer these two. I remember saying i added a flash in that shot already and the Han/ locating cave thing never bothered me because he could always have seen it on the sensors.

I'm working at 32bit in after effects unless a plugin i'm using isn't 32 bit compatible then i have to work at 16 bit, but this shot was 32 bit

aalenfae said:

There was another issue I noticed. Right after the shot with the added burn marks, there's a shot where Ady made the railing broken. The glow of the lightsaber passes behind the added railing matte, and for a few frames, it stands out. (I saw it just watching at normal speed).  

yeh, i spotted that and fixed it.

Harmy said:

I don't see any difference at all in that picture Angel posted.

Neither do i

BarBar Jinkx said:

An Error has occurred while expanding the file "xmas 2011 clip.rar" (Format error). Error #17540!!!!

 

 

FRAK!

Are you using winrar to unpack the file?

EDIT: oh i see you got it sorted now

greedo said:

is it just me or does something look not quite right with darths retracting saber.

everything else is spot on

Now there have been a couple of comments complaining that its retracting too slow. Now to get the retraction correct i used the scene where Vader and Luke are on Endor where vader inspects Lukes new saber. It takes 8 frames to retract from full blade to gone. The one in my video is also 8 frames. Now in the OT the blades take between 6 and 8 frames to retract (apart from ANH where they just disappear), but in the PT they only take between 4 and 6 frames. So there is no correct speed for them to retract. as long as it is between 4 and 8 frames then it will be screen correct

Captain Antilles said:

Random question, I know, but anyway...

Ady, will you be replacing Clive Revill's name with Ian McDiarmid's in the end credits?

The credits will be created from scratch so it will be Ian's name replacing Clive's.

Ronster said:

I have posted on the you tube channel for revisited but thought I would post my idea here to also see what others think of seeing vaders shuttle approach towards the end of the Hoth Battle.with reference to Vader getting to Hoth to Enter the Base he Obviously arrives via Lamda Shuttle probably with Tie Escorts. A Vader shuttle reveal might work in the scene immediatley after the AT-AT destroyed by luke falls over...  there is a shot of an AT-AT shooting at troops fleeing [5.01 REF VID]. Perhaps to  see the Shuttle with tie escorst in the  far distance in this shot and they could be travelling from the  right to the left and down in formation and then turning towards still in the distance with escort ties departing up this should be only very subtle though. The final shot of the shuttle only should be after the line "distance to power generators" it then cuts to the scene of the AT-AT shooting the snow speeder... [5.11 REF VID] Basically the shuttle should pass behind the AT-AT but fairly medium distance and carry on off screen to the left and this would make it look as if the snow speeder was attempting to pursue the shuttle only to be shot down by the AT-AT as it turns to chase. I think this would up the ante because the general has it in mind that he has already told vader to make his approach and the shield would be down in momments.

 

We will then have the new footage of the destroyed power generator model which presumably will cut to han and leia falling over after the explosion then running through the tunnel past c3po.

 

[5.55 REF VID] Immediatley after this, take the added docking bay executor scene from the ESB SE 2004 For Vader returning to the Executor from Bespin (which is being omitted I hope) and composite as foreground element only the Shuttle when Landed shot of vader walking off the shuttle. The background matte could be of the smoldering shield generator model Adywan has meticulously put together or destroyed for that matter ; with perhaps some snow troopers and a cut and paste AT-ST from ROTJ to come into frame as the camera pans and Vader walks down the ramp onto Hoth the best AT-ST could be the one that Han radio's in from to finally get into the ROTJ shield generator for the death star on Endor. I say put an AT-ST in the background only because we saw it marching ahead earlier when luke hits the ground  The AT-ST Should shoot after it's head turns to either blow open a hole or door if that footage could be used.  Finally Resume the footage of the rebel base invasion with Vader and the snow troopers coming in after the explosion. The Docking bay footage should probably flip so it looks like new footage but the feet of the AT-ST are not visible so some rocks or somthing might be needed to hide that in the composite....or whatever would work best. I feel these additions if they would work would truly bring Vader into the Battle on Hoth because for me it's a big gripe and I have thought long and hard about a way of possibly Bringing Vader Down to Hoth instead of just appearing out of nowhere. Sorry but do not have the skill to do this video compositing  but if anyone wants to give this idea a try then great! Or thinks they have a better way to do it?

Even if there is another way to bring Vader down without adding too much it would be good to see.

I hope Vaders shuttle leaving Bespin flying towards the executor stays in this edit of ESB because of Continuity also.

I cannot wait to see the final version of the hoth battle even if none of this stuff happens to be in the final edit. Just hoping it will be equivalent to what Adywan did with battle of Yavin

Welcome Ronster. While that is an interesting idea it's something that doesn't need to happen on screen. We don't need any visual indication of how vader landed on hoth. Everything we needed to know was explained by veers when he says to Vaders hologram," the shield will be down in moments. You may start your landing", so we know he will be on his way at this point in the battle. A problem with the prequels, and many films today for that matter, is that they feel the need to talk down to the audience and explain everything in detail, whether it be in the script or visually. And this was a huge problem when it came to the special editions with the added shots of vaders shuttle leaving bespin and docking with the Executor. Not only did it completely break the whole flow of the original scene, we just really didn't need to be shown exactly how he got there especially when he originally said "bring my shuttle". So i won't be adding any form of Imperial landing craft into any of the Hoth scenes.

Ziz said:

Watching the OT on Spike right now, something I always noticed but don't remember seeing come up in the thread (although with almost 1000 pages, it's hard to go back and check for it)...

When Vader chokes Needa then turns to Piett for an update, at the end of the scene when Piett says "Alert all commands - deploy the fleet", for some reason the sound mix on that line sounds like Ben Burtt left the "comm link filter" on - it doesn't sound like Piett is there saying it but saying it over a comm channel.

Having listened to that scene again i can't see any problem with the audio apart from its slightly echoing on set audio.

aalenfae said:

I think if anything about that scene needs to be corrected/updated/fixed, it would just be the matte paintings of the chasm. They always looked a little too... papery. 


On the same subject as changes, I made up a little video of suggestions for Adywan the other month, if anybody cares to take a look:

http://vimeo.com/32681597 

Again, some interesting ideas. I have already added a slight motion blur to the AT-AT's and have added the guns recoiling when they fire. But the one gun that isn't firing i haven't added anything to that because there is someone working on it so its probably supposed to be out of action until later on in the battle. Having vader in shot as the falcon exist the hangar wouldn't work because the falcon is flying pretty close to the ground and would have flattened vader but also he would have had to shot across the hangar at impossible speed to have moved from just entering in one shot to being on the other side in the next. Having the AT-ATs in the shot as Luke turns around would work also as that is actually a mountain range and the battlefield was a flat glacier.

sans_fi said:

I must say I prefer Vaders helmet moving than the weird effect of the head of Darth Vader now... It looks like a cardboard head, like that scene of Bruce Lee
http://youtu.be/1bAdMrMxMm0?t=1m1s

I'm sorry, but you can't say it looks anything like that.

I'm not 100% happy with vader helmet but there isn't much i can do but i still prefer it over the wobbly helmet any day. I may go back and try to tweak it since this was one of the first scene i did and i know a few more techniques that could be applied since then. Now i need to go back and read through a lot of pages to try and catch up.