adywan

BedeHistory731 said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

When three out of four people disagree it’s not “dogpiling”…you’re being too sensitive for a critical debate.

I’m not being too sensitive. Also, is it really a critical debate when three of four participants agree? Three against one seems like a dogpile to me.

Are we not allowed to like this show here without being reminded about how “wrong” we are for liking an admittedly flawed show? You can like this show without being dismissively referred to as a “fanboy,” right?

So it’s dogpiling is more than one person disagrees with another on their view of something? It’s a forum, of course there is going to be more than one person is going to disagree with someone’s opinion and want to join the debate. That’s NOT dogpiling. yotsuya has been around here for a while and i certainly don’t think they will leave just because people disagree with them. I’m certainly not dogpiling yotsuya.

yotsuya said:

adywan said:

yotsuya said:

Your summary is over simplistic. I’m sure there are similarities, but it is not the exact same situation. For one thing, the first time Kenobi is just going to delay and fully intends to return (but you never know). The second time he is leaving and knows he won’t rejoin them. The reaction of those around him is different and the story plays out different. There is a ghost of a similarity between the two incidents and you are focusing on that rather than the whole picture.

It’s not over simplistic at all. They’re the exact same senario. But not once does he state or it’s even hinted at that he will rejoin them during the first time or second. The only thing even mentioned about him returning was the promise to leia that she will see him again. But the fact that they used the same 3 character to have the same interaction in the two episodes make it more than just “similarities”

yotsuya said:

Also, getting stabbed in the gut can lead to instant death or a recoverable injury depending on where it was and how it was delivered. Qui-gon was stabbed (very clearly) through the middle of his gut. Severing his main artery and vein and possibly severing his spine and damaging the organs in front. He was human after all. We don’t see where Reva gets stabbed. In the gut, but just how is not shown. Same with the grand inquisitor (but he is not human so we don’t know what internal damage he might have sustained). Maul is cut in half, but other than an instant spray of blood, there is no blood. So whatever was cut was sealed. So he could have lived (with some help). He also isn’t human so we don’t know his internal organ arrangement to know what was cut off. Reva is clearly still wounded when she gets to Tatooine. So all the wounds are not the same so expecting the same outcome is unrealistic.

So, a weapon that we see generates so much heat that, when trust into a steel door, instantly starts turning it into molten metal, can get thrust into a human characters body for the length of time that Vader thrust it into Reva ( and we do see where he stabs her) and not kill her? her innards would be boiled to hell. It doesn’t matter that it wasn’t through her spine, it was still right next to it and, in the time the sabre is inserted, there would be nothing left. If it had just been a quick thrust in and out , it could have been believable that she was ok. But it’s held in there a long time. And, apart from a little wincing at the beginning of ep6, she seemed perfectly fine when she got to the Lars homestead. Also, you can clearly see that she was stabbed through the chest at an angle, then when we see her on Tatooine, she just has a makeshift bandage around her waist . When characters can just miraculously survive these type of injuries it makes it all a joke. Takes any form of believability out of it.

The angle looks like stomach or spleen to kidney, but not her spine. And they never cover what settings a lightsaber has. Perhaps it has high and low power for different uses. It reportedly had its origins as a cutting tool. And flesh and metal have different heat conductive properties. So I don’t see a problem.

That saber is definitely going from chest to spine in that shot. to be more factual, that is going through her heart, or very slightly under, at a downward angle then exiting through her spine. It doesn’t matter that metal and flesh have different conductive properties. The heat needed to instantly turn metal into molten metal would turn a persons insides into a boiling pot in seconds. A quick in and out and maybe you’d survive. But the amount of time vader has that saber inserted into Reva? No way. And she certainly wouldn’t be up and about in no time and manage to somehow get to tatooine. Having to make stuff up to justify the problems with the writing of a show only proves how bad the writing is to begin with.

yotsuya said:

Your summary is over simplistic. I’m sure there are similarities, but it is not the exact same situation. For one thing, the first time Kenobi is just going to delay and fully intends to return (but you never know). The second time he is leaving and knows he won’t rejoin them. The reaction of those around him is different and the story plays out different. There is a ghost of a similarity between the two incidents and you are focusing on that rather than the whole picture.

It’s not over simplistic at all. They’re the exact same senario. But not once does he state or it’s even hinted at that he will rejoin them during the first time or second. The only thing even mentioned about him returning was the promise to leia that she will see him again. But the fact that they used the same 3 character to have the same interaction in the two episodes make it more than just “similarities”

yotsuya said:

Also, getting stabbed in the gut can lead to instant death or a recoverable injury depending on where it was and how it was delivered. Qui-gon was stabbed (very clearly) through the middle of his gut. Severing his main artery and vein and possibly severing his spine and damaging the organs in front. He was human after all. We don’t see where Reva gets stabbed. In the gut, but just how is not shown. Same with the grand inquisitor (but he is not human so we don’t know what internal damage he might have sustained). Maul is cut in half, but other than an instant spray of blood, there is no blood. So whatever was cut was sealed. So he could have lived (with some help). He also isn’t human so we don’t know his internal organ arrangement to know what was cut off. Reva is clearly still wounded when she gets to Tatooine. So all the wounds are not the same so expecting the same outcome is unrealistic.

So, a weapon that we see generates so much heat that, when trust into a steel door, instantly starts turning it into molten metal, can get thrust into a human characters body for the length of time that Vader thrust it into Reva ( and we do see where he stabs her) and not kill her? her innards would be boiled to hell. It doesn’t matter that it wasn’t through her spine, it was still right next to it and, in the time the sabre is inserted, there would be nothing left. If it had just been a quick thrust in and out , it could have been believable that she was ok. But it’s held in there a long time. And, apart from a little wincing at the beginning of ep6, she seemed perfectly fine when she got to the Lars homestead. Also, you can clearly see that she was stabbed through the chest at an angle, then when we see her on Tatooine, she just has a makeshift bandage around her waist . When characters can just miraculously survive these type of injuries it makes it all a joke. Takes any form of believability out of it.

I find it so hard to understand how people can defend the writing on this series and say that it’s well made. In episodes 5 & 6 they used the exact same scenario. What’s worse is that, if you watch these two episodes one after another, this blatant repeating happens within about 15 minutes.

Episode 5: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

Approx 15 minutes later…

Episode 6: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

And i bet Qui-Gon is mighty pissed because , in this show, you can get skewered with a lightsaber in the stomach and through the spine and live.

And then there is the final Obi/ Vader fight. It’s set out right from the start of that duel that Obi_wan is prepared to kill vader. “Have you come to destroy me Obi_wan?”. “I will do what i must”. But then lets him live, even after he knows that the person who was once his friend has gone and all that is left is a monster. I know Vader has to survive because of ANH, but doing it this way is ridiculous.

Matt.F said:

RE: Why doesn’t Ben kill a defeated Vader?

Jedi Knights are honourable and chivalrous. Killing an opponent in a duel is one thing, but killing a vanquished fallen opponent is something entirely different. That is an execution.

We already see that when Anakin ‘executes’ a defeated Count Dooku. It is a wholly evil thing, and not the Jedi way.

Really? Well i would have a word with Mace Windu then. he was quite happy to Kill Palpatine to “end the Sith”. And what about Kenobi and Yoda? They wanted Luke to kill Vader. They didn’t say “you can only kill him in a fair duel”. Obi-Wan just said that if Luke couldn’t kill Vader, then the Emperor had already won.

FrederikOlsen said:

I enjoyed this show. It wasn’t a masterpiece, but I don’t think it set out to be. But the vigour with which some viewers will look for “plot holes”, particularly in something as oft-patchy as Star Wars, is getting ridiculous.

But no one needed to vigorously look for problems, they were there in plain sight. That’s the problem with this show.

Ava G. said:

Many critics these days will use their intellect only so far to find what they may call plot holes, so that they can join the negativity bandwagon.

They refuse to think further than the criticism, and to infer things by piecing together details in the story. They don’t argue against themselves before speaking. To do so would often times mean acknowledging what they called a flaw in the script, was only a moment which required the audience to think -through-.

I’m not saying that of anyone here. But it’s something I noticed in spades about many self-made critics reviewing this series on YT and the like.

So basically, what you are saying is that those that think this show was a pile of garbage are just too damn stupid to to think deeply enough or are just too stupid to piece together what these highly intelligent beings that praise the show can see before their super intellectual selves because they can actually think? Right, got it.

Fullmetaled said:

Is this the k.k. Garbage people keep saying about the Star Wars she does or is that hyperbole?

What are you talking about?

BedeHistory731 said:

adywan said:

And hadn’t it already been established that Qui-Gon couldn’t appear “in the flesh” because he hadn’t completed his training before he died? I’m sure this was explained in one of the cartoons.

The 2017 book From a Certain Point of View showed that Qui-Gon had learned to appear in the flesh by ANH (but it took a lot of effort to do so). All the show changes is that Jinn knew how to appear in the flesh a decade before it happened in the book.

So they have altered canon yet again just for a few seconds fanwank? Jeez

One of the things that didn’t sit right with me was how Owen and Ben interacted at the end. Owen became more sympathetic towards Ben and allowed him to meet Luke. he had only showed animosity towards ben and wanted him to have nothing to do with Luke, yet right after Luke almost gets killed because of Ben, he suddenly lets him now him. Then switches back to keeping him away from Luke at all costs in ANH. That encounter gave the writers the perfect opportunity to show why Owen wanted ben as far away from Luke as possible. But, no, they screwed it just so he could get his Skyhopper model.

And hadn’t it already been established that Qui-Gon couldn’t appear “in the flesh” because he hadn’t completed his training before he died? I’m sure this was explained in one of the cartoons.

BedeHistory731 said:

It’s okay in my book. I didn’t hate it, but I just couldn’t mentally justify rating it higher than a 6/10. I get why people despise it, and I get why people like it. I’m glad you’re not using elements from it, especially since it’d just cheapen the look of the OT to include insertions/references.

Speaking of that, what’s the plan for Kenobi’s hut now - a new model/matte, the '77 hut, or the '97 hut/digital matte?

Still the new model/ matte. The SE version just doesn’t make sense. How did the landspeeder get up those rocks? And the '97 version doesn’t even have any windows, when we can clearly see from the inside that his hut has loads of windows

EddieDean said:

I’m interested to know, Ady, if there’s anything from the Obi-Wan Kenobi series that either confirmed some decision you were on the fence about, or that you’ll change now that you’ve had the additional info?

There isn’t anything from that terrible series that will influence me in any way apart from maybe using some fx elements.

EvantheKidDS said:

Touching back on my End Credits, I had another idea.

https://youtu.be/sIPNormrPwg
Using this video as reference, why not for the first portion of the end credits, to play the score that goes from (0:00-2:18). Then right after, to insert the additional score to fit everyone who worked on, or had been involved in this film?

So you are suggesting i do exactly the same type of thing i did in the SD version of ANH:R then?

And , can we now please put this whole " Ben calls Vader " darth" " conversation to bed now after the final episode of Obi-Wan Kenobi? 😉

After 5 really bad episodes, this finale was actually pretty good. It didn’t feel like it was even the same series (apart from some pretty dodgy CG ship effects & make-up). We finally get familiar SW themes. Why didn’t they do this for the other episodes? This one almost felt like it was created by a completely different team. Although Hayden still can’t act his way out of a paper bag. Stilted and wooden deliveries. They really should have got rid of all the useless fluff from the other episodes and developed this finale more into 2 eps. It felt rushed. Sadly they strengthened the bond between Ben & Leia which makes her reaction to his death in ANH even more cold. But this ep did seem to be a bit of a box ticker, which was a shame.

It did show the flaws in the ability of those in charge to plot out chance sequences though. the Stardestroyer chase was flat. compare this sequence to those in the OT, especially ESB with the stardestroyer chasing the falcon, and you will see what i mean. The stardestoyer itself looked more 90’s CG than the quality we have come to expect from ILM today. The movement of the ships in some shots just looked unreal/ unnatural.

The big problem was that, what should have been tense moments, just couldn’t be because we know they survive. There was no peril, even though it was written to portray just that. We know vader survives, we know ben survives, we know Leia survives, we know owen and beru survive. yet they were the ones that were supposed to be in danger. The only one we didn’t know their fate was Reva, but she was just a throw away character in the end.

The " Vader half damaged mask revealing Anakins face" has already been done, but the original had more of an impact.

There will be things in this that some fans will be cheering over, but they felt more shoehorned in.

And what was with the excessive grain in certain shots? It would just from minimal to 11 during the same sequence.

But this was the best out of all of the episodes, which isn’t saying much due to how bad the other 5 were. The series was a missed opportunity.

Jackpumpkinhead said:

adywan said:

They showed the entire original StarTours ride at the star tours panel at Celebration 22. Sadly it had the damn graphics covering the bottom portion of the video. But this is the best quality i’ve seen it

https://youtu.be/z9zeL52OYBM?t=8853

Also a shame that this is now private

Thats so strange that they would take that one down and yet keep the other 3 days streaming. I’m just glad i downloaded it when i could

EvantheKidDS said:

For the end credits, I have a suggestion.

On Disney+, after the main credits finish, there’s this sequence of additional credits (for the voices of the international dubs) without music, and with simple text. Why not take that concept and utilize that for the people that helped you out with Revisited?

(The reason I asked is, I wanted to see if it was possible to keep the original theatrical pacing of the end credits, without putting in additional music or repeated segments, while at the same time still being able to put the names of the supporters and additional help)

The end credit music was already altered in 1997 for the SE’s, albeit just by repeating a segment. You can’t go back to the theatrical version of the score because of the extra credits already there. And i’m certainly not willing to remove people who worked on the SE’s just to have the theatrical timing the same as i am unwilling to have the names of those who have worked on and supported these projects just be tagged on at the end as some sort of afterthought. The way the credits will appear has already been established with ESB:R and that’s the way they will continue.

BedeHistory731 said:

It’s looking fantastic! I especially like how you straightened out the pylon in the first shot of Vader (which has bugged me for ages).

Also, speaking of sound mixes, will the mono mix insertions (Beru’s voice, “It’s secure,” “Blast it Wedge,” and the exterior cantina music) also return? There’s a new mono mix restoration in beta testing on the 4K77 forum.

yes, the mono mix insertions will be staying

marioxb said:

Looks great! I just can’t help but think that, knowing what we now know, I don’t think Obi Wan would call him “Darth”, would he? I think Anakin or Vader would be better. Maybe both?

I was going to write the reason why i think this line needs no alteration, but RogueLeader said exactly what i was going to write:

RogueLeader said:

Try to imagine a scene where a younger Obi-Wan is confronting Count Dooku and says, “You can’t win, Count.” It feels like a perfectly natural line that he would say, in my opinion. So with that in mind, I think you can easily interpret it as Obi-Wan just calling him by his Sith title. In the past a lot of people have suggested Obi-Wan says it mockingly. Of course, all of this is a retroactive interpretation, but I think it works enough that it doesn’t warrant changing it.

Telion said:

Very cool. The second audio track will that will have music playing during this scene (which I beleive will be Battle of the Heros) will I think be a much better fit with the fast pacing. One think I was wondering will it be a straight lift of the version from RotS or will you be using a instrumental version. I was wondering this as John Williams never used a chior in an of the ANH score so I felt that I could help it mesh more.

I think ANH is the only SW soundtrack where he doesn’t use a choir, same with it being the only one without the imperial march, so i think having one track appear with the choir would help it blend with the other films better.

EvantheKidDS said:

adywan said:

OK, Here is the sneak peek at the new ANH:R HD edit of the Obi-Wan/ Vader duel.
The editing in the HD version differs slightly from the SD version . In the final version there will be two audio tracks: The main 5.1 track will be the music less versions, while track 2 will have the added music as seen in the original SD version of ANH:R

https://youtu.be/HHmlOcakOPs

Right off the bat, the adjustments made to this sequence greatly improves upon the original. That being the color correction, the re-rotoscoping of the lightsabers, the jumpcut fix with Obi-Wan’s lightsaber, and the shuffling around of scenes to improve the pacing. It’s really impressive just seeing this in comparison to the 2020 Blu-Ray.

Although, I do have some questions about certain fixes/changes such as, the color correction being different from the regrade of the 2011 Blu-Ray from a while back, the lightsaber sound effects sourced from the DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (2011 Blu-Ray) being swapped for sound effects from the 1977 Dolby Stereo Track, and the “Your powers are weak, old man.” and “You should not have come back.” lines switching places from the original.

Why’s that?

Actually the audio used is the 1997 SE theatrical 5.1 DTS throughout with only the dialogue for Vader using the 2011 DTS track because of the differences. Sound effects for the clashes have been added due to the editing. The mix for the 2011/2020 blu-rays is horrendous when compared to the 1997 5.1 DT theatrical. I’ve been noticing so many things missing from the blu-ray mixes; missing foley, sound effects coming from the wrong channels amongst other things. It also a very flat mix in places. So the final release audio track will be a combination of the 97 theatrical DTS & the 2001 blu-ray mix. The lines were swapped around in the original ANH:R, so i kept it that way. The old regrade i did was only ever going to used as a basis for this edit. This will have an updated grade

OK, Here is the sneak peek at the new ANH:R HD edit of the Obi-Wan/ Vader duel.
The editing in the HD version differs slightly from the SD version . In the final version there will be two audio tracks: The main 5.1 track will be the music less versions, while track 2 will have the added music as seen in the original SD version of ANH:R

https://youtu.be/HHmlOcakOPs

jedi_bendu said:

adywan said:

But the biggest problem is the ever increasing bond between Obi & Leia. The more they progress with this, the more she is a heartless bitch in ANH. That guy risked everything for her and she had this close bond. But she doesn’t even react when he is trapped and about to die in ANH? Yet the boy who has known him for 5 minutes reacts the opposite way? Wow. that calls her character into question. This should never have been Leia in this story. There is no peril because we know who survives.

This feels like a nitpick of what I think is the best part of the series. The relationship between Obi-wan and Leia is the beating heart of this story and I always love their scenes together. We don’t even really focus on Leia’s reaction to his duelling Vader in ANH, and though I’ll give you that Luke seems more sad about it than she does afterwards, I don’t think it’s anywhere near a good enough reason to justify not doing this story.

Hell, maybe Leia doesn’t remember much from when she was 9. I know I don’t.

No, it’s not a nitpick at all. This whole relationship that’s being portrayed in this series messes with the OT. Especially with Leia ending up being “The Other”. As it stood prior to this series, Ben was watching over Luke. He thought that Luke was the one that was their “only hope” and so did Yoda. But now, all of a sudden, we learn that he had this huge bond with leia. He got to know her and saw just how strong she is. While Luke is just out there playing pod racer. So why didn’t he see that she was the stronger one? That it was Leia that should have been trained ? Or at least trained as well? Obi-Wan is kind of a misogynistic dick now then isn’t he? Only a boy is good enough for them. 😉

Like i said before, this should have been Luke that Ben was out to rescue. He could have been captured by Slave traders or such and then, on the quest to find rescue Luke, Obi-Wan falls on the Empires radar. Then that bond could have been still present in the same way and it would have lead nicely into ANH. Because it’s obvious that Luke knows Ben. He recognises him straight away. “boy am i glad to see you”. Obi-Wan has rescued him again. And the emotional weight of Luke seeing Ben killed is enhanced ( even though it didn’t need to be).

Obi-Wan could have offered to find Luke and Owen reluctantly agrees after some persuasion from Beru. But once Luek is back with his family Owen is angry at Obi-Wan because of how close Vader came to learning he had offspring and painting a target on Luke’s back. He blames Obi-Wan for the Empire getting involved in this rescue. And he banishes Obi-Wan from ever having anything to do with Luke.

idir_hh said:

Feels like a few scenes were cut from the first act of the episode. We go from burned Bacta Obi to fully healed Jedi robes Obi in the span of a few seconds, Ice cube jr goes from “I’m not gonna help you” to “I’m all in” at a blink of an eye, and I have a feeling Wade and the girl were meant to have more of a presence earlier on to set up that ending…

This happened before in this show. One minute " i’m not going to help you" and the next “I’m helping you” with Haja Estree. It’s probably just how bad the writing is on this show. But if important contextual scenes have been cut then the showrunner is clueless when it comes to editing and story plotting. It’s far worse than " somehow Palpatine returned" yet people will still be bitching about that when this show does far worse

Ep4 was better than the first 3 eps. It even looked much better visually for the most part, But it still has problems, although not as many as previous eps. It does have problems with framing. Way too many wide shots. As if they were trying to show off the sets more than create an atmosphere. Everything seems to be a huge open and empty space. This ep should have had a claustrophobic feel to it. Tension. But it didn’t. At times it felt like there are a million writers, each not bothering to go over what the other has written.

We see Obi at the beginning of the ep struggling to even move a small object using the force, but then miraculously manages to hold back a whole ocean. The “nods” to the OT are getting a bit tiresome now. The ANH tractor beam scene…check. Escape only to have a tracker on the ship…check. OOH that’s where Vader gets the idea from. SMH.

And don’t get me started on that ridiculous escape with Lei hiding underneath Ben’s imperial cape. Jesus.

But the biggest problem is the ever increasing bond between Obi & Leia. The more they progress with this, the more she is a heartless bitch in ANH. That guy risked everything for her and she had this close bond. But she doesn’t even react when he is trapped and about to die in ANH? Yet the boy who has known him for 5 minutes reacts the opposite way? Wow. that calls her character into question. This should never have been Leia in this story. There is no peril because we know who survives.

The music is still as forgettable as ever. It fails miserably at conveying any sense of emotion during scenes that desperately need it. Maybe one or two points where it almost got there, but not quite.

But the speeders… my god did the effects on those things look bad. The way they moved looked so fake. They were done so much better 42 years ago with less technology.

One thing thing that is head and shoulders above everything else in this show is Vivien Lyra Blair. This kid is amazing. She out acted Moses Ingram during their scenes together in this ep.

Having said that though, this was far more enjoyable than the eps before it. But, with just 2 episodes left, i’m not holding out much hope that this will ever be anything more than a single watch only series. Completely forgettable.

Omni said:

Personally I thought Hayden nailed the way Prowse used to move this time around. Felt very Vader-y, much more than Rogue One. Pair that up with the new voice and damn, it really is him.

Hate to tell you, but it’s BS about Hayden being Vader throughout Kenobi. There are three people in the suit on this show. Hayden only when unmasked, General acting scenes is Dmitrious Bistrevsky and for stunts and fight sequences it is Tom O’Connell

jedi_bendu said:

Random point: I love how Vader looks in this scene. I’m not sure why but it reminds me of how he was lit in A New Hope. Does anyone else see it?

That really is a good example of how bad this show is shot. The lighting is horrendous. You have the damn stormtroopers in the background lit, yet the character that you are supposed to be focusing on is so flatly lit your eyes are drawn to the background instead of what you should be drawn to.

EvantheKidDS said:

doubleofive said:

EvantheKidDS said:

I know I shouldn’t bring this up again but, I did just realize something. Since you’re using Topaz to improve the existing 2011 Blu-Ray for ANH:R HD, why not attempt the same for ESB:R?

That is if you want to do it, as it is your choice and not mine, or anyone else’s.

(In some of the shots where Leia turns around to rescue Luke from Cloud City, the lighted buttons in the Falcon’s cockpit bleeds together.)

Didn’t you just ask this?

Yeah I know, but when I was reading back the update on ANH:R HD about how Ady was using Topaz to clean-up the 2011 Blu-Ray (when it was still on native 1080p) to improve the image quality for the same resolution, I thought about that when I was thinking that Ady used the 2004 DVD to create ESB:R, before he used Topaz to upscale from 720p to 1080p.

If i had used the 2004 DVD then it would have only been 480p, not 720p

Bridger12 said:

Are you aware of this one minor error in ROTJ, where the shadow of a prop lightsaber can be seen in a reflection? It’s when Vader is walking down the stairs of the throne room.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UNhUY-WmqAHhxT2F8iWS2-sNMGjR1MZz/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CtPqZ74doTx3aW1Y6OeXZrSrWARChfN-/view?usp=sharing

Yes, i was aware of this

Bridger12 said:

Are you aware of this one minor error in ROTJ, where the shadow of a prop lightsaber can be seen in a reflection? It’s when Vader is walking down the stairs of the throne room.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UNhUY-WmqAHhxT2F8iWS2-sNMGjR1MZz/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CtPqZ74doTx3aW1Y6OeXZrSrWARChfN-/view?usp=sharing

All your google drive links say that access is required to view. You need to provide access otherwise no one can see them