adywan

Double post…

swagmasta69 said:

The Acklay looks better than the JP dinos.

You have to be kidding me. The T-Rex in JP still looks great today. That film set the bar for CG creatures. But 7 years later and TPM’s CG characters look fake as hell. More like a video game cut scene than real objects. And 10 years after JP, AOTC should have knocked it out of the park compared to outdated CG, but it failed miserably. The only Dino that hasn’t held up so well is the Bronto. But when you compare it to the Ronto’s in the SE, which were actually the same model that was used and modified, it still looks better than those things.

This looks real. It looks like it is actually there:

The Cg in the prequels looks fake as hell in comparison.

There seems to be a lot of ranking going on lately. It seems the forums suddenly acquired a lot of rankers. To much ranking will make you go blind

swagmasta69 said:

69 swagmasta69.

I most certainly do not want to do that 😉

That is the same guy who slated The Revenant and said that the film would have been better if it had been filmed in a studio against a green screen. The guy is an idiot

swagmasta69 said:

He loks like he’s looking at him though?

I think it’s time you took your own advice 😉

swagmasta69 said:

Get your eyes checked.

swagmasta69 said:

Greenscreen=/=Lazy
The director just does his thing whereever the shoot is. Doesn’t matter to him. Building sets and doing strenuous activity wouldn’t fall to the director in any scenario.
Eyelines are all fine in ROTS.

Oh, they really aren’t. There isn’t as much interaction with Cg characters as with the previous films, where both the actor and CG character are in the same shot, but when they are it is not good. Bail Organa when he goes to the Temple is one example. When he is supposed to be looking at the trooper he is talking to, he is looking right through him.

And you clearly know nothing about film making. The Director certainly doesn’t just do “his thing wherever the shoot is” at all.

And no matter whether you think it’s stupid and pointless or not (an argument could be made), The Ring Theory proves that George went to insane lengths to have the different episodes form a structure of echoes and mirrors.

Oh no, not another “Ring Theory” argument. A ridiculous theory created by a prequel supporter that makes so much crap up in an attempt to prove that george is a genius and the prequels are masterpieces, while omitting things like FACTS that would disprove the theory. He makes assumptions that no one else was involved in creating the films, especially the OT and uses the “it was all planned out” myth, which we all know it wasn’t. George made this shit up as he went along. The whole “rhyming” argument was something george came up with while filming the prequels. Not ONCE had he ever said anything like this prior to this. More like an excuse to copy stuff from the previous films. The whole theory is a stretch of reality.

swagmasta69 said:

Explain how the prequels are lazier than TFA in a 90 page essay, due friday.

I don’t need 90 pages. ROTS is one the laziest made film out of all the prequels. Lets just shoot the whole thing against mostly green screen and don’t even bother to shoot any outdoor scenes using, you know, natural light. How much more effort would it have been for george to take that green screen outside the studio to the backlot? Not a single shot of that whole film was filmed outside of the studios four walls. Lazy film making.

And then there is the CG characters and eye lines. If you are going to add a CG character that the actor needs to interact with, then make sure you get the damn eye line of the actor right so he at least looks like he is looking at the character, instead of right through it. George himself said that he didn’t care about the eye lines. Another lazy step done by George that would have helped sell the CG characters. Yet TFA got this spot on.

Another is getting the actors performance how you want it while shooting. george wasn’t bothered about doing the job right. He always thought it could be fixed in post. Well, sorry george, it didn’t work. lazy

Jay said:

Dek Rollins said:

adywan said:

I am not a number…

…I am a free man!

* maniacal laughter *

Haven’t watched it in forever. Time to break out the Blu-rays and have a marathon. (Beautiful restoration btw, for anyone who hasn’t seen it.)

ha ha , you got my Prisoner reference.

i haven’t seen the Blu-rays yet. Many happy holidays spent at Porthmadog when i was a child, each time including a visit to Portmeirion. An amazing place.

I am not a number…

Just run the M2Ts through TSMuxer, selecting blu-ray as the output, then burn all the folders it produces to the blu-ray disc.

What size is the file you downloaded?

I would say to lose the original Williams soundtrack if you are going to do this. Mixing the metal covers with the original music is pretty painful to hear. It becomes a wall of noise and the timing goes out slightly.

Doing some lighting tests for the Han in Carbonite. These aren’t the angles that are to be used in the movie as the lighting needs to be different for each shot and then some post processing work would need to be done to match the colour etc. They are just to show the model under these lighting conditions.

Anchorhead said:
Do we know if theatrical re-releases are counted in the overall earnings of a film through the years? Including its opening release, Gone With The Wind has had thirteen theatrical releases from 1939 to 2014.

Also, those are just the studio releases. There have probably been countless retro-theater runs as well which may have made significant amounts of money. That’s how I first saw it back in the 1970s. There was an old theater from the 1930s that had month-long rotations of classic films. Gone With The Wind was a regular there for years.

Yes, re-releases are added to the films total earnings (including any special/ directors/ extended/ 3D editions)

We still have 3D IMAX showings here in the UK until at least the 4th Feb

Dek Rollins said:

I would say the film wasn’t accurate because every single thing in the past has used that setup, EU or not.

Rebels introduced TIEs parked this way, before TFA did.

http://beyondthemarquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/STAR-WARS-REBELS-Sabine-and-TIE-Fighters.jpg

The Dark Empire said:

And by the way… There is a technical manual, u know. Cross-sections, technology etc.
This is a official Disney thing.

And it has the two-seater-TIE in it. And the named every cable, every thing like the engines and the weapon system. And well, there is no repulsorlift in it. Some other ships and vehicles have it.

If there was no official technical manual for TFA this TIE details would be not interesting to me.

But there is one and the film is not accurate to it.

Those technical manuals have never been the most accurate of things. It’s just someone making stuff up basically, and they don’t always represent what is seen on screen.

One thing you have to remember is that both Titanic and Avatar have had several theatrical releases. Titanic boosted its box office with the 3D version, and was in cinemas for many, many months first time around. Avatar was re-released as an extended version and was also in cinemas for almost a year. Then they weren’t immediately available on home video, when TFA will be available in April. TFA has almost got there with just a over a month in cinemas. TFA could have many re-releases in the future that would count towards its box office. It would be interesting to see the actual figures for Avatar and Titanic on solely their initial release without any subsequent re-releases/ versions

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swagmasta69 said:

I would argue that TFA and the Holiday Special are the same kind of monster.
Both made without the creator’s involvement and made solely for profit.
There is nothing even close to a creative vision for either entity.

So you would need to lump the prequels into the same “made solely for profit” category. Those films were only made for the money. He had no intention of ever making those films. Lucasfilm needed a money maker. the only parts of Lucasfilm making any sort of money was its subsidiary companies ( ILM, Skywalker sound etc). Lucasfilm needed a hit. The only things of any value on its books were Star Wars and Indy. They had had too many flops. The SE’s were done to test the waters. Did the public still want Star wars? If those had failed, then pre production on TPM would have likely stopped.

But its pretty obvious now that TFA could have been a masterpiece and you would still have bashed it just because it didn’t have George’s stamp all over it. Well thank god it didn’t. The prequels were nothing more than an advertisement for what ILM could do at that point and to generate much needed profits for a failing Lucasfilm. You only have to watch the behind the scenes doc on the TPM DVD that he wanted full CG sequences, not because it would be good for the story, but for nothing more than because he thought other people would want to use ILM, and this new type of FX work, for their own movies.

Talking Movies -TFA special -BBC
Star Wars - Greatest moments - Sky1HD
Evolution of the lightsaber - ESPNHD
Star Wars -The Force Awakens on Set - SKY1HD
The Force Awakens uk Premier - SKY1HD
TFA Sky Movies Special - SKY1HD
Graham Norton show - Carrie Fisher, Daisy Ridley & John Boyega - BBC1HD
Film 2015 - 1 episode reviews TFA & another has a special about Star Wars

i’ve seen this a lot recently, where people are saying that the soundtrack wasn’t good because they “weren’t humming any of the new themes when they came out of the cinema”. But are you really sure that you remembered the older themes just from viewing the movie once? Probably not.

Previous promotional material, prior to the films releases, featured themes from these movies. The music video for Duel of the Fates was played on TV all the time before TPM came out. Battle of the heroes was used before ROTS came out. We had the soundtrack albums out there before the films. How many of us had the OT albums before getting to see the films? And how many times did we play them? Yet, with TFA, the only music that would be featured in the film that was used for any pre release promotion was the jedi Steps and that was just for the International trailer. Oh, and guess what, this one seems to be the one that most people seem to remember when coming out of the film. The soundtrack didn’t come out until after the films release. So we had no pre-conditioning towards the music.

Ronster, you really need to go back and watch that making of scene again. They DON’T have a mini cockpit on the camera at all. The cockpit (full size) was filmed against a bluscreen and then the backplate, which was filmed by this camera, added later. And what cockpit inconsistency? That is the only time we see the x-wing cockpit from that point of view in the whole film. If you are comparing it with ANH or ROTJ then the whole interiors are different between films.

DevilWing said:

bishabosha said:

Some pointless issues:

Why after the opening crawl, and panning down to Jakku in the background, WHY do the troop transports fly towards the CAMERA, i.e. IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION

I remember the planet in the opening shot looking blueish. Was it actually Jakku? (I can’t remember what Jakku looked like when the Falcon flew away from it)

No, that wasn’t Jakku in the opening shot.

I’ve got a LOT of the UK stuff on my Virgin TiVo, but no way of transferring it to anything higher quality than DVD

I’ve seen a few people now claim that the prequels were better than TFA because “at least they were original”. But were they? TPM is similar to ANH in most respects, with its final act being ROTJ. And then we get to AOTC… Please tell me what film i am describing here? 😉

The three main characters get split up in this film. One goes off on a mission while the other two fly off somewhere else, where they start to fall in love. There are no space battles, just chases. The main battle is a ground battle on a planet where they face a mechanical foe. There is a chase through an asteroid field where, to evade their pursuer they hide inside/ on an asteroid. The bad guy asks the good guy to join him and together they can defeat the bigger bad guy. There is a lightsaber fight and a skywalkers arm/ hand gets cut off. the final shot in the film has two of the main characters standing on one side, with R2 & 3P0 on the other.

but, i guess when George does it, it rhymes 😉