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#276535
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Star Wars Prequels/Original Trilogy: The Complete Scores (Released)
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
The problem with Ben Burtt is that he believes sound effects can instill emotions in a person more than music. Music is a serious emotional stimulate, but he refuses to believe it. Look at him in the "In a Minute" doco ( or what ever it is called ) on the ROTS DVD, he gets in an argument with one of the sound mixers. All because he thought that when Obi-Wan and Anikan are fighting and that big metal arm thing they are on plummets into the lava river below, he thought that you should here more sound effects than John Wlliam's score. He actually pouted when he didn't get it exactly like he wanted it. He almost made that scene worse than it was. I wonder how many other times he ruined scenes emotionally that could have been fantastic had he not tracked music over John William's score?


I think that Burtt ended up with too much power over the sound mixes and has since ruined even the OT with his so called "better" mix for the 2004 DVDs. How the hell can he justify having the music for the surround channels opposite to the front channels? This destroys the spacial field of the music so it makes you wonder if he has a grudge against a musical score in movies Plus it does make you wonder if the prequels would have been better if Burtt had just stuck to sound design though

GoodMusician, i have just downloaded your files and i must say you have done a great job. I can't wait for your ROTJ to appear.
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#276534
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: cbaka
adywan what a great work, it will be cool if u can share with us any tutorial of your "making how to do"..is that possible when all will be finished ? thanks again for your amazing work..MTFBWY.

I may add a short feature detailing how i did a few of the scenes on the DVD if i have enough room and time to do it.

Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Have you considered compositing Qui-Gon's lightsaber somewhere into Obi-Wan's hut? Perhaps lying next to his cloak in the background during the hologram.

No, I won't be adding Qu-Gon's saber. I can't see that Obi-wan would have kept it. After all he rendezvoused with the Tantive IV directly after defeating Anakin and it seems that he went directly to Tatooine. he wouldn't have been able to return to Coruscant to retrieve any personal possessions, not even a change of clothes.
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#276533
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The legendary &quot;Starkiller Ranch&quot; Thread
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i totally agree that Hayden shouldn't be in ROTJ. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Luke wouldn't have the slightest idea who the hell he was and if suddenly Anakin becomes young then why doesn't Obi-Wan? The whole " he returns to the state when he was on the good side" just doesn't wash with me. If that was the case then he would still be an old man because he was saved before he died and turned from the dark side. If anything then they should have added Anakins costume from the prequels because he never wears the jedi robes like Obi-Wans (Oh my god, i just went into George mode then. ) .

Shaw needs to return as he was in '83

i also don't like the idea of adding in ties to the EU either. Thats one side of Star wars that , even though it kept Star Wars alive during the quiet years, just just doesn't belong in the movies.
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#276354
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: HotRod
^^ So that whole scene must be GOUT, if you've removed the flying thing? Or was it your special kind of magic again?

Whatever...Great job man.


The only GOUT elements used were characters missing thanks to the damn adding of Rontos for the short time they appeared. It was created using new background mattes & lots of layers ( and i mean lots. Each element was cut out separately then added as a layer) to help keep a sharper resolution. This way the GOUT was used to the barest minimum.


heres a .PSD file snapshot of one section of the scene. It will give you some idea of what was involved in creating this scene. A lot of elements are missing from the snapshot because they were already mixed down, mainly characters walking past the camera. There is a layer of the GOUT footage that was used as reference so you can see the difference between this and the GOUT.

mos eisley PSD snapshot layers
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#276318
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: frendon
Ady, I can't thank you enough for taking the time in doing that.


No thanks are necessary. Its a scene that has bugged me too. What the hell was the point in having the ronto block the screen like that? it wasn't even to hide a jump cut like in the biggs scene. Anyway the ronto is gone. heres the clip of the scene. The encoding to xvid has lost a bit of detail so it does look better in the original mpeg.


Mos Eisley scene. 13mb approx

It doesn't look like i'll be adding the Vader line from ESB because the music is too prominent , so back to the drawing board for the Vader cockpit scene ( if it ever is to be included)
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#276254
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: andy_k_250
The scene is in good quality on Empire Of Dreams, in anamorphic, with no dino.


I looked through Empire of Dreams and could only find a short clip of that scene mixed with behind the scenes footage and its wasn't very good quality.

I decided to use the GOUT in the end. It had the upper hand slightly on sharpness compared to the other version i have, including Moth3r's great transfer. Even with the bloody jaggies it looked better when mixing with 2004 DVD footage. Being able to use the X0 project footage would have been my dream but i was half way through doing it so i decided just to go with the GOUT and get it out the way so i can concentrate on other footage. I've completely finished the whole scene now and even though its not perfect, i'm really pleased with how its turned out.

I will post the scene later tonight but i need to go to bed now. just over 48 hours without sleep isn't good. but i just had to get it finished while i was on a roll.
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#275902
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: RemixerBossSo do I. Hey, Ady, what did you do with the stormies on Tatooine and are there any new Imp. tech from the EU?

No, nothing extra in those scenes
Originally posted by: frendon
Adywan, I have a question, you know the shot on Mos Eisley when Luke and Obi-Wan are stopped by the stormies?, on the SE and 2004 editions, there is a CGI Ronto walking right in front of the camera which hides our view of everything for a while, this always annoyed me, I don't see any point of having it there. Are you planning to do anything about it? remove by using GOUT footage perharps? It's not something important but I figured I'd just ask anyway, thanks for your work, looking forward to it.

I'm working on that scene right now. Not too bad at the moment but i really wish i had a higher quality vid than the GOUT to work from.

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#275326
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Well i've just finished messing about with the test model shots and they haven't turned out as good as i hoped so there will be no new model shots included in the final battle. I will still be fleshing out the battle but i will have to use existing footage of the ships to do that now, which has made this a lot more difficult to pull off. oh well. If it was easy i would be bored

I hope that all the flaming that has happened recently can be put to rest now. I don't think that Neil S. Bulk had anything to do with the email that was sent to me. That person was a coward and Neil doesn't seem the type of person that would hide behind an anonymous email. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and Neil plainly voiced his. Even though he didn't mean it as an attack, it was worded probably the wrong way which did make it seem quite harsh and rude. But this doesn't mean that we should then start attacking him for his opinion. I knew when i started this that it would be hated by some of the OUT fans, but if everyone liked the same thing, wouldn't life be boring?

And on to the "plot hole". This isn't a plot hole and i really can't understand why you still think this. Here's some reasons why it isn't:
Vader " I told you she would never consciously betray the rebellion.."
Luke: "I've got your R2 unit. I'm here with Ben Kenobi. ."

Leia is strong minded and is able to keep the base secret during interrogation. She has no way of knowing if R2 has been delivered into the rebels hands and therefore they would be completely powerless against the power of the Death Star without the plans. But when she learns that R2 hasn't been delivered to the rebellion then she knows that, at all costs, she must make sure that he gets to the rebellion so they can use the plans to destroy the Death Star.
Leia: They let us go. It's the only explanation for the ease of our escape"

Leia may have had a suspicion that they would probably track the ship but the TIE battle confirmed this to her. She is pinning her hopes on the plans that R2 carries. It is a risky move, but even in wars on our planet, strategic moves like this are made. Sometimes its better for the enemy to come to you. Think of the amount of resources the rebellion would have had to use to get to the death star for the attack. Resources that they just don't have. If the Empire received word that the rebels were on their way for an attack then there was a chance that the Imperial fleet would also be there waiting for them ( think ROTJ).

All in all this is a "plot progression" and not a "plot hole". It doesn't conflict with anything said or done in the movie.

so lets put all the name calling etc. to rest now please
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#275134
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
I don't think you have anything to worry about Trooperman, as long as you stick to this site.


I agree. I think that its the whole MySpace issue that has caused this. That reaches a far wider audience than this site does and therefore may have made it look like a commercial release, or at least one that may be at one day released for sale.

It is a worrying time for all of us doing these edits but i had a legal friend of mine look over this letter and she said that it was just a formal notice to remove the copywrited images & footage from the site or to remove the site completely. A site like MySpace is classed as a website that can be used for commercial & promotional purposes and can be seen to do so by anyone visiting it.

Its a pretty safe bet that Lucas is fully aware about this site and i would have thought that if it was a clamp down on fan edits then OT.com would have been slapped with the same notice as the "REBORN" MySpace site was by now.
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#275131
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: eros
Adywan,

after the (IMO) 'silly' tie battle when they escape the death star are you leaving in the comment where Leia suspects the empire is tracking them? as this is a major plot hole as well.

as far as I'm concerned you can edit away to your hearts content as the SE is already a 'sows ear' so perhaps you could turn it into a 'silk purse'

I really don't think that it is a plot hole at all. Leia was probably suspicious that the Empire would probably track the ship but wasn't sure until after the TIE fight. But she knew that she would be leading the Empire straight to the hidden base but she had to deliver the plans R2 was carrying or the Rebellion would have stood no chance on destroying the Death Star. She had to get the plans to them at all cost. A good strategic move. Actually it moves the plot along nicely. If she hadn't gone straight to the base then the Empire wouldn't have found them, there would have been no rebel attack, no sense of real danger, and therefore no ending to the movie.

Originally posted by: AvatarX
Is there a possibility of seeing the Yavin gas giant in the background of these shots like in the game "Rogue Leader"? It made the levels seem kind of dire, as the gas giant was getting closer and closer.


Thats a good idea. I like it so i'll see if it will work when i get to the battle.
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#275128
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Info: Seeing how much of the 1.0 material survived
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Wouldn't it have been better to use the 5.1 mixes of the foreign tracks for this. I know that the French & German 5.1 tracks off the 2004 DVDs contain a lot of the mono mix as their basis. You can strip them to separate tracks and use the left, right & surround tracks for the mix and easily add the English dialogue, including lines from the mono mix, but still end up with a good stereo mix . In the clip you posted it is very noticable when you drop the lines from the mono mix in. You can hear the stereo field expand and contract each time its dropped in and the EQ of the different tracks needs balancing too.. This can be eliminated quite easily by using the foreign 5.1 mixes.
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#275062
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//Star Wars Begins\\: HD Version Now on Vimeo
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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Thanks for your suggestions. I will add them to the growing list.

Does anybody have:

- A subtitle free PAL version of 'The Making of Star Wars'?
- A PAL version of WSWRTW? (Babyhum??)
- A PAL Version of THX Soundtrack! (I am having problem ripping this from the 'Return of the Ewok' DVD) or could somebody make me a PAL version???

Many thanks
JD


I may be able to help you out with a PAL version of WSWRTW. Need to go through my collection but i know i recorded it when it was shown so it might still be on my HD of my DVD Recorder ( i really need to sort out all the stuff i have on there). I also have the making of star wars in PAL but its only a VHS copy, but i can transfer it easy onto DVD. Just let me know if they are any good.
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#274781
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: BMadden
Adywan, I think the words "move along" are certainly appropriate in this instance.


I couldn't agree more.

Anyway i've now finished redoing the colour correction footage lost so i can now get back to FX work. Looking at the amount of footage that i have had to redo (including about 20 FX shots) i have decided that i will be releasing a brand new trailer about 4 weeks before the edit is in the bag. I realised when looking at the other trailer that about 50% of the footage would be different to the final version now because of having to redo those scenes. It will be based upon what was to be the "final" trailer but will be longer and feature more unseen footage.
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#274449
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//RETURNING TO JEDI\\: NTSC &amp; PAL DVD
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I've been accepted as a friend on the "Returning to Jedi" MySpace page. This is what it says on it:
In an ambitious effort to collect all material from "Return of the Jedi", into one insightful project, author Jambe Davdar presents "Returning To Jedi". The result of almost a years hard work, this labor of love provides an extensive look at the making of Episode VI. This is the follow-up to "Building Empire" which gained a large following of admirers due to the depth of research and final presentation of the documentary. The film incorporates many rare alternate takes, production audio, on-screen facts, cast and crew commentary, storyboards and behind the scenes footage to give you the must-have companion to the final chapter of the original Star Wars Trilogy. Like "Building Empire", I was really impressed with "Returning To Jedi" to the point that I felt that "Jedi" needed its own MySpace page. If your a die-hard "Star Wars" fan this is not to be missed. all 23 episodes are here. This is a fan film documentary, made by a fan for all the fans & not for monetary gains. Piracy is strictly prohibited or suffer at the hands of The Emperor you will.


It has all 23 episodes of the YouTube videos on it. i also noticed that there is a "Building Empire" site too in his friends list.

At least it isn't someone trying to take credit for your hard work.
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#274443
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Hey Adywan, how is the color correction going? Maybe you could give us a mini-update to give us something else to talk about instead of what is becoming the usual?

I've almost finished the colour correction. there is a few shots i just can't get to look as good as i did the first time round so i'm leaving them til last. i've redone the pistol lasers so i'm almost back on track. i'm doing some new models test shots of TIEs & X-Wings for the final battle so i haven't really done anything else to the edit since but i will be doing some more this weekend.

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#274302
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
And now about Adywan's project......

I didn't join originaltrilogy.com to advocate more changes to the movie. The whole point was to try and get a classic film back to its original form. This micro-managed, "It's better because now 3PO is seen in the macrobinoculars" is the same sort of garbage Lucas has been doing to the films (both old and new) for over 10 years now. It's the story that counts, not how many creatures blink. Adywan, you're demonstrating a talent for effects, but your efforts would be far better suited to screwing around with your own work and not worshiping the heels of Lucas.

Neil

Wow, you didn't send me an email about a week ago did you? (J/K)

Now seriously , I knew that when i announced this edit that it would displease the hardened OUT fans, but that's not the demographic that i am aiming for. Originally it was just an edit of the SE film that i wanted but it has evolved thanks to great input from members here into something else. i am not changing the story or adding things in just because it looks good. Things have been removed from this edit that were in the SE because they were just added by Lucas for eye candy and nothing more. The Jabba scene for instance has been removed because it was completely out of place in the film and should have been included only in the deleted scenes section.
This edit was always to be based on the special editions and not the original versions. There are plenty of great OUT projects out there so why would i want to create something that is already being done? After all there are a lot of SE Star wars fans out there as well as the purists.
This micro-managed, "It's better because now 3PO is seen in the macrobinoculars" is the same sort of garbage Lucas has been doing to the films (both old and new) for over 10 years now.

Hmmm. You have it completely wrong there. Lucas changed things in the SE like Han shooting first, adding Rontos and silly scenes like the worker droid hitting the samaller droid in Mos Eisley but ignoring some glaring continuity & plot errors. Your example shows a fixed continuity error and not at all what Lucas has been doing with the trilogy. Does this also mean that you will be posting the same type of thing into , for example,Darth Editous' thread because of the fixes he has done in his amazing edit?

Like i have said previously, i listen to the input from everyone, good and bad, and if the consensus is that an addition or fix doesn't work , then it has either been removed from the edit or has been redone until i get it right.

The support & input i have received for this edit has been far beyond anything that i ever expected and for that reason i will continue to "screw" around with the saga no matter what your views are, which in my opinion were rude and uncalled for,
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#274291
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Star Wars: REBORN - The Complete Saga (* unfinished project *)
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This is indeed a sad day. I really hope that this isn't just the beginning of a fan-based project crackdown. I have a feeling that it isn't though. Ane here's me reasons:

Myspace has become a promotional tool for films, bands and more and having a website on myspace about this project may have been seen by the "powers that be" at Lucasfilm as promoting Reborn to a wider audience than just the fan community.
By this letter, we request that you immediately suspend and/or disable the account of the above website and/or that you immediately remove the Unauthorized Items from the above website.

It seems in legal terms that they are only requesting that the website be removed but it doesn't state anywhere that you are not allowed to continue the project, just that you are not allowed to promote it in this manner. Myspace has become huge and it isn't just for star wars fans. Forums, like here at OT.com, are smaller and are less known outside the Star Wars community so any fan edits are not promoted in the same manner as they would be on MySpace or by having a specific website.

Personally, if i had received a letter like that, then i would continue with my project. As i mentioned earlier,it only mentions the website, not the edit. There were a few sites on myspace that were promoting fan edits for sale ( although they were saying that it was only to cover costs, which £10-£20 a shot is way above any costs). these were closed down pretty quick so maybe they are just clamping down on MySpace sites before anymore of these type of sites pop up.

I think that if it was just about the edit then we would be seeing Lucasfilm attempting to close down this site. I guess only time will tell
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#273602
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I have to say that in a way this setback has been a good thing, from a certain point of view. I've just finished all of the Tantive IV scenes and I've
been able to add a few tweaks that have improved the final output. The new lasers now look 100% better than i had originally done them, the colour is also much better and I've been able to tweak some of the flesh tones in a few shots that they are either too dark or too yellow. God Lucasfilm screwed up the colours.

Also i have just received a mock-up of the new Death Star schematics from the guy who is doing the 3D work. It's amazing. I can't wait to have the final shots to put in the edit. But you'll have to wait until the DVD is finished because this is something I'm keeping a secret.

Anyway, i'm about 60% done on redoing the lost footage so things are going faster than i had anticipated but a May release date is still looking unlikely though
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#273202
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
I still think Lucas is involoved in all these computer craches somehow. Or it could just be paronoia.

Yeh, there does seem to be a lot of those happening recently. maybe i'm just paranoid too.

Some good news, Luckily i have been able to load the new render of the main video into vegas and been able to recover most of the final colour scorrection. About 25% though has to be done from scratch because these parts were done earlier, but at least this is going to save me a lot of time. All colour corrected scenes up to the opening desert scenes were lost so i have to redo those and a couple of effect shots that had been rendered into the final colour correction were also lost. Luckily i still have the templates so should be able to redo those with ease, apart from the opening crawl and stardestroyer/Tantive shots, which were one of the first i ever did. Those templates have long gone so, un;less i can find the original footage in one of my backups, i will have to redo those too.
Originally posted by: Uncanny Antman
Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that production design based on a limited budget should necessarily be regarded as something that needs to be changed.


But isn't that what this whole project is about? It's not part of the landspeeder that looks like a battery, it's an actual car battery that is not part of the landspeeder design, and is not supposed to be there. Certainly, not supposed to be noticed by people who just can't let go of a 30 year old film.

I've had a look at this shot and i think its going to be too tricky for me to fix. Don't forget i'm a newbie to FX work so i'm still in the learning process as i progress through this film. This will be something that i will try to fix at a very later stage so if it doesn't work then i won't have spent a lot of time that could have been spent on more important things.
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#273026
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Getting too old for this sort of thing?
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Originally posted by: HotRod
^^ Dunno man - 40 - that's old!

Joke


Tell me about it. I just remembered that my eldest daughter was also 10 when she was first able to see star wars on the big screen when the special editions came out in '97. She was star wars mad since the age of about 8 months. The first time i put the video on she was having a bit of a kiddy tantrum, but the second the star wars theme started she suddenly went quiet & just became glued to the tellyand remained that way until the second that the end credits music finished then she started again. I thought that it was just a fluke so i rewound the video and started it again and the same thing happened. She just couldn't get enough of it & has remained that way since. must be in the genes.