Originally posted by: GorillaSorry to bring up the whole adding a "Vader/Luke revelation" scene to ANH again. I'm just concerned because I don't want to see ESB diminished in any way. I think most can agree that ESB is by far the superior film of the entire saga. It's as close to perfection as possible and it would break my heart for it to be tarnished. The Vader/Emperor scene in ESB is powerful and poignant right where it is. I would hate for it to be treated with undue respect.
I think you may have misunderstood what i am trying to do with this scene. I am not removing the scene as it should be in ESB but using some of the new dialogue, with some other, to create a different scene. At the beginning of ESB we learn that vader is desperately searching for Luke and he refers to him as "Skywalker" by name well before the Emperor scene. If Lucas had kept the original dialogue for the Emperor scene as it was then I wouldn't have even considered adding this scene to ANH. But he screwed it up by changing it. Now it has ruined what i use to consider a good scene. I want to redo the scene when i reach my version of ESB to closer match its original intent. To think that Vader or the Emperor wouldn't have known that Luke could well be his son prior to ESB doesn't wash with me and i think THAT spoils what ESB has become. By adding a small scene where The Emperor tells Vader about Luke or a scene where Vader discovers the identity of Luke cannot treat ESB with disrespect, as you stated. personally i think it adds to it.
I'm not into adding scenes just for the hell of it and thats why the Jabba scene has gone from my edit. It was a completely redundant scene and was only added in, in my opinion, to say "look here's Jabba. Look what we can do with Computer Graphics.." And Han stepping on Jabbas tail... don't get me started on that one.
Adding a small revelation scene to ANH then leads directly to ESB. It helps show how obsessed Vader becomes with finding his son. Dispatching thousands of probe droids wasn't just to find the rebels, but to find Luke. He wouldn't be so obsessed with one person just because they pulled the trigger that destroyed the Death Star. Also the scene still wouldn't give anything of the reveal in ESB. The Emperor says "I'm have no doubt that this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker." he doesn't say " your son", So again it does't change the story in any way. ANH, as it stands, Ties things up at the end. The Death Star is destroyed and the Rebels celebrate. Thats one thing that i loved about ESB, that it doesn't really end and feels more like one part of an act that a stand alone movie. So, adding a scene where Vader discovers Lukes identity removes the feeling that it is the end of the story and the rebels are pretty safe because you know that Vader is going to do what he can to find Luke without revealing that it is his son, and leads directly to ESB.
Originally posted by: GorillaI'll be honest, I absolutely hate the prequels and I totally ignore their existence. I don't care about trying to tie all six movies together.
But this is the whole reason i started this project in the first place and with you stating that would probably mean that this edit would not be for you. I love the OT and "like" the PT, but it has so many problems. I am redoing ALL 6 films so that they flow together better than they do now, but without destroying the magic of the OT. I will be heavily re-editing the PT and hopefully fix the main problems with it. For one thing, 3p0 will NOT be built by Anakin and he won't appear until ROTS where he would be introduced as a protocol droid serving Senator Padme and not built to help someones mother. The having him call anakin "master" wouldn't be a problem because Padme and Anakin are a couple and Padme would have instructed 3p0 to obey Anakin as well. the whole 3P0 thing was one of the things that ruined the PT for me and changing this is just one step i will be doing to take the PT down a better path.
As i said before, this whole new Vader scene, however i finally go about it, will only end up in my final version if it adds to the story and not just because its something new, like what seems to have happened with the Special Editions & the 2004 DVD set.
Originally posted by: Uncanny Antman
I'm still wondering if the old car battery visible between 3PO and R2 wil be erased...no one ever did answer that one.
I'm not too sure where this appears. If you could give me either a time frame or what scene it appears in then i will have a look at this and see if it needs to be fixed.
Originally posted by: Sluggo
I was watching DE's excellent edit this morning and I remembered one thing that might use your expertise. Right before the Falcon blasts it way out of Mos Eisley, Han and a bunch of stormies exchange some shots, there is some stuff blowing up and they take off. The trooper closest to the falcon is running towards the falcon when an explosion behind him knocks him over. The only thing is, he's just jumping in the air, he topples over and lays there. It just looks goofy. And the take is repeated in the film, so you see the same action cut in pieces. Is there anything that can be done with this? Maybe a blast actually hitting him or some debris knocking him over?
he now gets hit by a lasr blast, same as the last officer to get killed in the detention cell scene where there is an explosion on the wall behind him and he falls down the stairs but wasn't actually hit. he now gets hit.
Originally posted by: Rebel11_38Have you fixed or can you fix the scene in Luke's garage when C-3P0 jumps as R2 displays the Leia message the first time? Luke says something like "Well my little friend you've got some nice carbon scoring here." He then turns to 3-P0 and aks him "Were you on a something-or-other" and R2 knocks Luke back and starts playing Leia's message. Just before Artoo starts the projection 3-P0 falls/hops from where he is standing to the lower area where Luke and R2 are. Ever since I learned of this little error I notice it every time I watch the movie. It would be great if you could do something about this.
This is something that doesn't bother me and unless you are looking for it then it just looks like 3P0 gets startled by Luke jumping back & the appearence of the hologram.
Originally posted by: HotRodI did ask before but got no reply.
There's a scene where there's a grain of sand on Chewies foot. That's bugged me for 30 years, please could you remove it. Also I've noticed that there are to many stars when viewing from the Falcon's cockpit. Maybe airbrush a few of those baby's out. Then the film will be perfect! Cheers.
Joking of course
The finished shot is faster.