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#307550
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Info: Fanboys doc?
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yeh, without the cancer plot, the movie has lost its "heart2 and just sounds like a bunch of inpatient fans wanting to see the movie before anyone else. i guess the studio want to go down the typical "stereotype" star wars fans route. So i'm for the cancer plot. Has anyone heard how the screening went? I'm preying that the cancer plot stays
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#307489
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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i think i've come up with a solution that should please everyone



http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5417/glag1.jpg


Originally posted by: jedi_jra

I haven't commented on this project before, but I wanted to add my 2 cents, why not? I prefer the human hand to the fin. However, it looks way too neat, as if somebody just cut off his arm and laid it out nice and neat. What about palm up and the fingers curled? since it would have been curled around the gun anyway...

But i did say that was very very quick composite and would be nothing like the final one. You even quoted what i said originally in your post

corellian77, i think you should get some of the "I survived the great flipper debate of '08" T-shirts printed up. Merchandising, It's all about the merchandising.
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#307450
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Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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you could try using quickpar to check the files. i had some weird things going on when i used SuperNZB's PAR tool when it reported files missing more blocks than when i tried again using quickpar. If it isn't that then i would suggest using giganews. all the files are still there and the 200+ day retention is very handy at times
QUICKPAR
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#307435
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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i didn't bother doing anything to the Tusken loop shot because it never bothered me for one but also there wasn't much that could be done with it. if i cut out the loop then the shot would be just too quick

as for the 3po reaction shot after R2 is hit during the trench run: all the control room shots were rearranged because so many flip shots were used and i wanted to bring some continuity back to those scenes. So unfortunately that meant that the reaction shots would be in a different place because the following shot Leia would be on the other side of 3P0 too soon. i also felt that it didn't need it because in the shot that follows now 3P0 looks like he has almost shut down through depression and looks really sad. originally I was going to add a new shot with 3P0 with some quick dialogue but i just couldn't find the right piece to use s i just left it out but i have since found something that might have worked so i may go back and do something with that.
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#307419
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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The only other moment that hurt the edit for me was that new shot of the TIEs coming in to the end battle. ALL your other work in this scene is stellar, but I must be candid and say this shot is the weak link. It doesn't feel like it matches the rest of the movie in style, and the render quality is poor (sorry to you guys who worked hard on it). The TIEs look dark and smooth, compared to the more light/white, detailed models you see everywhere else.
I have to disagree with you totally on this one. The Tie's look as good as the ones added in the SE and as for the colour they are exactly the same as the ones in the movie in . they change from white to grey throughout and there was nothing that could be done about that because that was how they were originally filmed in '77 and again in '97. The pic below shows the TIE on the left from Lucasfilm and the TIES in the new shot. Unless my eyes are screwed they look the same colour to me (don't forget i did say that the xvid came out a little darker than it should be for some reason):
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3545/tiesya6.jpg
I'm going to defend this shot because it has come out exactly as i wanted it to and i think it looks great. Will did a great job on this shot

As for Obi-Wan igniting his saber first being un-Jedi like then here's a short list that will back up my decision for him to ignite first:

AOTC - Anakin vs Dooku - Anaking runs towards him and ignites his saber first
ROTS - Yoda vs Sideous: Yoda ignites first
ROTS - Obi-Wan vs Anakin - Obi-Wan ignites first
ESB - Luke vs Vader - Luke ignites first (i know he isn't a Jedi yet)

In ROTS Obi-wan knows just how dangerous Anakin is so he is prepared so it makes sense that he would do the same the next time they meet
Right after Vader strikes down Obi-Wan, Luke blasts the door controls and the door closes as Vader is approaching it. I thought, wouldn't it be cool if you see the door start glowing and Vader's light saber comes through it, a la Qui-Gon in TPM? Just seemed like a neat idea.

I don't think that vader would have done that. After all he wanted them to escape because so they could track them to the rebel base so why would he be so keen to damage the battle station just to get to them when he wants them to go free?

As for the flipper shot i have to say i'm leaning a bit towards the human hand shot since i did that mock-up. But you'll just have to wait and see which ends up on the final DVD
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#307318
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Ok, this whole flipper debate is getting out of hand. making the flipper look more like a hand, by adding a sort of thumb, is going against everything this edit stands for. You can clearly see the shape of his flipper (although its actually moor like a hoof) in the wide shots of Ponda standing at the bar. Changing the shape of the hoof so it looks like he could hold a gun will not be happening in my edit. If i was to do that then i might as well leave in the wolfman hand because both would be incorrect to the actual costume used in filming. There shouldn't even be a gun there in the first place because Ponda never drew his blaster, he was just caught up in the swing of the lightsaber. I'm redoing the texture of the hoof now and should be ready in about 3 days when its dry. Logically a real hand would look better as it is Evazan that is seen drawing his blaster. What i am going to do is films both shots. one of the hoof and one with Evazan's arm and sleeve then put whichever one i think looks best in the final DVD Version and i will put the other as a special feature so it can be edited in to suit peoples taste with ease if they want to do their won version.

As for the shadowing then there are 2 light sources as has been mentioned before. if there was just one coming from the bottom then the shadowing on the original would be wrong. The shadow in NormanS version is almost correct but the shadow is way too long.

The shot of the falcon entering hyperspace after the TIE battle was changed at the last minute. i decided we didn't need to see it going to hyperspace because Vader informs us straight after anyway. i just haven't got around to changing it in the list
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#307235
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Frendon, the colour issues you mention are a major problem with the 2004 DVD's. the blue cast that was added, while it was said it was creative decision to give it the colour feel of more modern movies, was in fact a way of hiding a lot of colour problems with the transfer. Some colours in the blue & green spectrum no longer existed. Not only were the colours of some of the cockpits gone but also wedges helmet was no longer green and became black & white, noticeable even with the blue cast. i had to make a decision: do i keep the blue cast, which was something i REALLY hated or remove it and just have the cockpits during the trench run (mainly the xwings) desaturated. well i went with removing the colour casting ( i did manage to recolour wedges helmet to green though).because there was no colour information other than the blue cast in those areas i just had to put up with the colourless sections. i did try overlaying the GOUT to recover some of the missing colour but then noticed that even in that transfer the cockpits were desaturated in some shots, so it became a waste of time going ahead with this process only to have a few shots stick out like a sore thumb.
With the interior of the death star i wanted to eliminate the horrible over saturated blue in the 2004 transfer and to be more battleship grey. only the blue colouring of the walls was removed & all other colour remains. Looking at the 1997 SE it looks like the first stages of oversaturated colours and blue cast were present in that.

Now onto pondas arm. i can see a case for both sides. you could say that it should be the human arm on the floor because ponda doesn't draw his gun quick enough but i have just viewed the original footage and the behind the magic cut of the cantina and noticed something. When Ben swings the saber, he doesn't slice the human arm . He hits doctor evazan in the chest and he falls. so no arm severed. whereas in the lost cut footage ponda is standing next to him and you see him fall with the arm lying next to him. so it looks like he got caught up in swings of the saber just as he is drawing his saber. Caused a bit of a dilemma what to do with this one now.
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#307212
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: BMadden

The way things are working at the moment ALL formats of the DVD's will be available at the same time




Ady, does that mean the DVD5 is being pushed back or the DVD9 is being released sooner than originally planned?


Well because there are a few tweaks that need doing i have more time to work on the supplemental stuff and the dvd structure while i work on the tweaks, so it may be sooner or delayed a week or so

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#307208
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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it would be boring if everyone agreed with what i have done. Just look what a certain GL released after he surrounded himself with "yes" men. I knew when i started this that it's impossible to create an edit that would please everyone so i just kept it pretty close to what i wanted to see, as originally intended. The constructive criticism helps me stand back and take a look at all the suggestions and if i thought it would work then i tried it, if not then i went ahead with my vision.

The way things are working at the moment ALL formats of the DVD's will be available at the same time

i've also just looked at the shots in the gun turret that you mentioned and i'm horrified that i didn't notice this. that shot should not have been in there as it was only a test shot and not the final one. If you look closely, in the last few frames as han moves the chair, the gun goes over the top chair. i need to try and find the intended shot now. god thats going to be a task and a half. i've only got a few hundred shots too look through to find it . I'm glad you spotted that one Ron
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#307201
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: ron2112
I think I found a small blooper, and it doesn't appear to be on the original DVD. It's at about 1:33:49 according to WMP. Han destroys the TIE and then his seat swivels to the right, but his turret does not follow. It remains aimed where it was when he last fired it. Just thought I should mention it.

Ron Moses


That would be in the original too because i haven't done anything to the position of the gun turrets

the problem for me with changing the arm to the human arm would mean that i would have to build a whole arm section, create a sleeve that was the same material, or as close as possible, as his sleeve in the rest of the shots and re do the gun, probably a build from scratch, so that matched the one seen drawn. It was discussed in length before the edit was complete and no one came up with the suggestion that it should not be ponda babas flipper so that's the way i went, which is what i always intended to do anyway.
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#307198
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: DarthBo
The new Death Star intro is amazing, but there's something wrong with the way the ships move... it's probably just me though.
I also really liked the added music in the conference room scene after that, but the parts where there's no music are... well, quiet.
I think those are the only parts that bothered me, I really, really loved what you did with the film, and I can't wait to see this in DVD quality

There is music all the way through that scene up until Vader releases him.

i think i may well recomposite the severed arm shot to get the lighting better, so if all goes well you should see the change on the DVD
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#307197
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307197/action/topic#307197
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Originally posted by: seventiesfilmnut
The only other thing is the darkness of the transfer. I know this was an issue with the 2004 DVD release which I know this is based on, but any chance it could be lightened up a tad for the DVD releases? I had to alter my TVs brightness by 10-15% to get it about right.

Because the xvid was taken from the avi master it uses the colour values 0 - 255 whereas the mpeg would be 16 - 235(or 233 i can't remember off hand now) so the xvid will look darker when watched on a TV. The brightness that you will see on the DVD is the highest the values could go without causing some major problems with the picture, especially in the darker areas.

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#307194
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307194/action/topic#307194
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Originally posted by: Sevb32
I still think not enough praise has been heaped on the new Death Star schematics, and the the new holograms the in the briefing room as the rebels watch the end battle. How on the world did Ady come up with such a neat looking display for the death star plans?!!!

Well Will, the guy who did the CG mesh anim did a great job on the Death star so it was pretty easy for me to come up with all the other elements of the display in the briefing room. The same mesh was then used for the first shot in the end battle, desaturated and i added the glow and the rest of the elements like the ships etc. For all the other shots where you see the holo table then i had to create a quick cg sphere mesh of the death star to replace Wills' original anim because the angles were quiet a bit different than the first shot ( I though that they were all very similar but they weren't) and as his computer was pretty much 100% tied up rendering the TIES for the approach in the death star battle i just couldn't ask him to have to render new anims for each and ever shot of the holo table, so i had a go myself. I'm actually very pleased with the result
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#307169
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307169/action/topic#307169
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The hand is actually a full size physical model. i really didn't want to go down the CG route for something that can be created in the real world, but thanks for the offer. the lighting was pretty tricky to get exactly right because of the different light sources. as you can see from the pic this is where the light sources are coming from.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4974/handev6.jpg
The top light source is higher up as you can see by the way the fingers are lit when they should be in the dark if there were only the 1 source. I just had to get it as close as possible with only 1 light source, but i can see i didn't get it quite right. i will probably tweak this shot for the DVD versions but i won't be getting rid of it.
Originally posted by: corellian77
One quick question before ending this post: Ady, will the DVD versions be anamorphic? The thought just occured to me as I realized the XviD is not.

Xvid should never be anamorphic but the DVD's will be
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#307146
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307146/action/topic#307146
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Originally posted by: Kurgan
The Aquilash costume is slightly different in the photo (from the SWHS I take it?), for instance the sleeves are cut short and he's got that shirt underneath.

It's actually the same costume that was used in ANH. It's just that they had cut the one sleeve off during filming so they had to remove both sleeves for the Holiday Special and add the shirt. The rest is the same that appears in ANH
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#307138
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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The model hand is exactly the same shape as it is above. it's just that at the angle it needed to be it looks different. I will post a photo of the actual model hand later when i charge up the camera batteries and it'll be the same position as in the pic above and you'll see what i mean.

i would like to hear everyone else's opinion about this is possible. Should i redo the shot or keep it as it is?
Originally posted by: Kurgan
PS: Spotted the battle droid, and it looks good, very unobtrusive. But I'm at a loss where Georgie is. Is it "old George" or "young George"? Give us a hint!

Its George circa 1976
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#307134
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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There was no speeding up of the film involved in the Obi-Wan/ Vader fight at all. the pace was changed only by editing so slowing it down wouldn't have made it the same speed as the original. And it isn't PAL it's NTSC.

As for Ponda Baba's arm, i modelled the had from all the sources available and i kept it true to the original. This edit was just for the fans and i'm not really bothered if it confuses people when see the flipper. it is there to correct a mistake and the original hand sticks out like a sore thumb to me knowing that he had a flipper (that can be seen clearly in other shots). As for the blood, the saber cortorizes the wound so there would be no blood. here's a snapshot from the holiday special that shows his flipper, even though the colouring is different to that in ANH because of the lighting:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/919/aqualishsittingmf4.jpg

It was originally changed to the wolf hand because of the original flipper not being able to hold a gun and might confuse the audience but as i said it's there for the fans who know what it should look like. I might tweak it slightly for the DVD but i can't change the angle. I have to keep it at the angle it originally was due to the other elements in the shot.

and it wasn't "Lord" Darth Vader in the special edition credits so i haven't changed anything there
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1279/creditsoriginalim5.jpg

I knew that the changes i made wouldn't please everyone but this was originally just for me and it's exactly the way i wanted it . Oh my god i have turned into George Lucas.
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#307113
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307113/action/topic#307113
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Originally posted by: corellian77
Quick question:

I'm downloading this via torrent, but took a peek at Usenet.com after reading some of the posts earlier.

I'm tempted to join due to the extreme difference in download speed, but do all newsgroups require you to pay for the service? Any free ones out there? (Yes, I know I'm cheap...)


Well giganews are doing a 3 day free trial at the moment which allows you to download up to 10gb

Free 3 day Giganews Trial
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#307071
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: Denryanj
I just finished watching this thing and I have one MAJOR complaint, Adywan......

In the closing credits, you spelled the City By The Bay as SAN FRAN"S"ISCO.....how dare you? .

OOps That'll be fixed for the DVD

If anyone else spots any mistakes in the credits can you let me know as soon as possible please so i can fix it for the dvd releases. thanks