adywan

Well i succomed to my curiosoity and watched TCW. Now i am desperately hoping someone here can help me out with something......

HOW THE HELL CAN I ERASE THIS PIECE OF SHIT FROM MY MEMORY????

I've been a fan of Star Wars since 1977. The PT, though not of the same calibre as the OT, i still enjoyed seeing for the first time. But this... How the hell anyone can say this is good is beyond me.

This should have remained what it was meant to be and that is a TV cartoon series. Releasing 3 episodes strung together is an insult to Star Wars fans. So its supposed to be aimed at kids. So why not just keep it for the TV where the kids can watch it for free? Money, that's the only reason. Lets see.... kids tickets are usually half the price of adult ones so the parents then have to take their kids to the cinema and pay full price. Great, now more money is coming in. Well not from me. I'm just glad i didn't pay to have to sit through this abomination. The fanboy excuse of "see it through a child's eyes" is complete crap.Most  kids that were at the showing were restless and bored, some even leaving half way through. i have never seen this at any other Star Wars movie i have ever watched at the cinema.

What happened to the promise that the animation would "not be like anything we've seen before"? well i, for one, am glad we have never seen anything like it before because the animation was truly outdated. there was just no suspense in any part of the movie. All the battles, we knew who lives, so they became pointless and boring. Why keep flogging the clone wars to death? They could have done so much with an animated series without having to go over old ground.

Lucas screwed up with AOTC when we never got to see the clone wars, as he had promised, so we now get lumbered with this.

Call me a hater as much as you want, but know this before you generalise me.... i wasn't, until now.

Welcome, vadershamader.

things are progressing really slow now. too many things going on in my personal life at the moment, so sorry for the lack of any feedback & updates from me recently. After this month is over i will finally be able to get back into it all.

Kurgan said:

Not that it's any of my business of course, but I couldn't help noticing... Adywan, your kids are either adopted, or you're remarried... am I right? I did a double-take at first before I realized that had to be the case!

 

Edit: I see Darth Solo beat me to the punch!

 

yeh, my kids are from my first marriage

hopefully this may help you. they are the complete pre-ANH theatrical subtitles taken from Moth3rs bootleg xvid

Just a quick update:

another problem has hit. The rendered mkv looked great but while watching i noticed a problem that was to do with the master avi render. i'd enabled a temp layer in vegas and some wrong shots had been rendered , so back to square 1. i'm rendering the master avi now and the mkv should be finished by tomorrow. But i will post some screenshots a bit later.

i'm still here.  Its just been a mad couple of weeks for me. I've just finished the colour correction on ANH for my AVCHD project so i can get back to ESB now. I've also had a few internet connection problems, and this week i was struck down with a sickness bug. I've also been having to make my kids & my fancy dress costumes for the birthday bash we are having at the end of the month.Not good that my kids 16th, 18th & 21st birthdays have all fallen in the same year and within a couple of months of each other. I didn't plan that very well. Plus its my wifes 30th too so having a big party to celebrate.

It all happens at once

Looks like i have a lot of catching up to do and a lot of reading. So i'll try and reply to everything a bit  later

Ripplin said:

Ady, you're not color correcting ANH and ESB at the same time, are you? :p I don't remember you saying anything was done in that regard yet. At any rate, you seem to like working on several different things at once anyway. I guess I'd be excited too. Haha.

yes i'm doing both at the same time. A New Hope's colour correction is finished and i'm rendering the lossless avi right now. had a few problems with the last encode and i wasn't too happy with some of the colour correction so i needed to go back and do some more work. i should have the main video rendered for the PS3 by tomorrow and then i can sync the audio tracks. if all goes well then EP4 AVCHD should be available in the next few days. I'm not going to be using most of the 2004 5.1 mix for ANH but instead i'm gong to be using my Revisited mix for most parts with the 2004 DVD & Laserdisc 5.1 mixed in too.

The Griff said:

Probably an impossible request but I might as well make it anyway:

 

...no 'Jedi Rocks'? Please?

yeh, unfortunately impossible.

I'm encoding the first pass colour correction for ANH now. I'm having to do it in chunk of 30 minutes because the rendering times are horrendous. After effects reported 58 hours to encode the whole movie. Hopefully i will have some comparison screenshots to post a bit later today.

they have samples of the soundtrack here:

Clone Wars Soundtrack

The main tilte sounds like its paying at half speed. It just sounds so strange. I don't like it at all. So i guess that there is no opening crawl by the sounds of things. Also, to me, its sounds more like the soundtrack from one of The Mummy movies than a Star Wars one.

Baronlando said:

Sorry if this is common knowledge, what makes the german HD broadcast a particularly desirable source? Was it the 1997 version, or something else about it that makes it the best? thanks

The German HD broadcasts were superior quality compared to the Uk & US broadcasts. The picture was sharper & with less broadcast compression artifacts than the others

negative1 said:

i wonder why more people have watched the PT than the OT ???

 

was everybody fooled?

 

later

-1

more people didn't see the PT. Back when the OT was at the cinema you could buy a ticket for the first showing and stay in all day if you wanted to (which i did on a few occasions), yet it still make a shed load of cash. Now when the PT came out you were only allowed to sit in for the one showing. Check out all the available movie charts online that have ticket price adjusted figures and you'll see that the PT isn't even in the top 10.

as for the Clone wars movie, i can't believe that its less than 2 weeks away and that it will be the fist Star Wars movie that i won't be going to the cinema to see and that i'd almost forgot that it was even coming out. Many people i have spoke to here were shocked to hear there was another movie that was going to be at the cinema this month. I think that says hell of a lot as to what Star Wars has become. There is just no interest in it here at all from anyone above school age.

It does remind me of the 2 Ewok movies that were made for TV but were only shown here at the cinema. Just a way to squeeze even more money out of the fans for something that was originally made for TV.

vbangle said:

Ady, have you given any thought to re-making the crawl? From your HD example the crawl, as it comes into view, doesn't look nice and straight....

 

Didn't you re-create the ANH:R crawl? Maybe the same is in order for ESB:R? What you think?

yeh i noticed the crawl isn't too straight and i may do soething about that. i Didn't recreate the crawl for ANH:R i just straightened it a little. I'll have to recreate them for the PT but i want to use the originals for the OT

ImperialFighter said:

Something that I really liked about the actual 'STAR WARS' logo on ANH:R, was the slightly emboldened outline of the lettering.  It's a subtle thing, but makes it even better.

Not sure what you mean here because i didn't do anything to the logo exept use one from one of the other language versions due to a problem with the original lettering.

baby hum said:

I've been watching this thread with great interest and can't wait to see Adywan's results. The demo looked fantastic on my PS3. It's the next step in my releases but until enough HD content becomes available I'm taking it slowly. The one question I do have is, has anyone tried Roxio's DVDit HD. I'd like to include menus on my releases and bar Scenarist I think this is the only program that will allow you to do that. Also, is a regular photoshopped 1920x1080 jpeg image good enough for menus and slideshows or are there any special requirements such as pixel aspect ratio etc.

Good luck Adywan! Can't wait!

I did try DVDit Pro HD but i couldn't get the thing to work on my machine. I had problems with the activation screen and Roxio weren't the greatest of help, so i gave up and didn't bother buying the full version

digitalfreaknyc said:

Any update? :)

My drive should be coming today so i can start rendering the first colour pass of ANH within the next couple of days

Fjodin said:

I have 3 uestion to adywan:

1) I know that you removedse wampa scene,but could youadd it in DVD Bonus, like you've done with Jabba? i realy like this Wampa.

 

i may well do that

 

2) Why you removed scene when vaders shutle flys from Bespin to SSD?

 

It was a totally unnecessary addition which ruins the pacing of the whole scene

 

3)i hope you dont delete SE Max Rebo Scene from ROTJ. I REALY like it. :)

PS. I love your Ep4! Its better than original! :)

 

Again that another SE addition that will be going. The whole "Jedi Rocks" music number just doesn't fit in with the feel of Star Wars at all.

PaulisDead2221 said:

Ady, what do you think of the star maps so far? I love the brighter stars in both your last edit and in this one, but have you thought about working on the star maps to make them a little more realistic? Maybe star clusters, or milky way-like formations strewn across the screen could give a sense that these planets do indeed exist in a galaxy far far away. It would be interesting to see the action take place against a backdrop of stars that looks more like what you see when you look up into the sky on a clear night.  If it was at all feasible, I think it could be real cool to see probe droids searching a galaxy that looked like this.

i Toyed around with using different styles of starfields when i was first starting ANH:R.Iit just didn't feel like Star Wars any more and just didn't look right in my eyes.

Well its the last shot of the Wampa that i have the biggest problem with. The original footage of the arm after it is severed its is cut at around the elbow, but the SE wampa has is severed at the shoulder. It really bugged me that they couldn't even get that right. It's not as if the footage wasn't already there for reference. You see, thats one of the main problems with the SE. All this new stuff was added without any regard for continuity with what was originally there and what would be kept  just because it could be added. Not only did they screw up the arm but also later on in cloud city too. The New Buildings as they land no longer match the Matte painting and the addition of the window with the elevator is there one shot and gone for the rest. Total screw ups that a aren't that difficult to spot that something is wrong (especially with a renouned FX house like ILM)

i haven't fully decided what to do with the wampa scene yet but i can't see me keeping the SE additons at all

Fjodin said:

HEY! DONT DELETE COMPETELY SE WAMPA! It was wery upset that there is no wampa in OT. Only small shot at ate end of cave scene. And SE gives us a long shot of wampa.

sorry, but the SE wampa shots are gone

negative1 said:

 LEIA: Lord Vader, I should have known. Only you could be so bold. The
Imperial Senate will not sit for this, when they hear you've attacked
a diplomatic...

VADER: Don't play games with me, Your Highness. You weren't on any
mercy mission this time. You passed directly through a restricted
system. Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by Rebel spies.
I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.

LEIA: I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a member of the
Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............imperial senate...............diplomatic...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........mercy mission................restricted system........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........imperial senate.................diplomatic mission........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Actually, no.  and you got the quote completely wrong there. Not sure where you are copying that from but its not as it was in the movie.

...much later

HAN: (yelling) Yahoo!
====================================================================

will someone wake me up when they actually start talking about something interesting???????????

More interesting?? maybe you would prefer them to talk about treaties and trade federations and taxes and ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... sorry fell asleep there just thinking about it.

or maybe you think something like this is better:

ANAKIN: You are so beautiful!

PADME: It's only because I'm so in love . . .

ANAKIN: No, it's because I'm so in love with you.

PADME: So love has blinded you?

ERGHHHHHHHH!!! Now look what you made me do. you made me lose my lunch :)

NOTHING in the OT comes anywhere near to crap like this. He cut the important scenes about the start of the rebellion to add scenes like this?(which was added in re shoots after principal photography had finished because he felt the movie needed it).  Its the type of thing a pre-teen girl would write and not someone who was once regarded as such a great film maker.

The acting was terrible in the PT which emphasised the really bad dialogue but even the best actors in the world can't make gold out of shit.

Octorox said:

doubleofive said:

I couldn't resist posting the two changes I noticed.  I won't directly put them on here till everyone has had a look, but I'll post the links for the curious:

Change 1

Change 2

change 2 looked really shopped in that video. I guess HD is a lot less forgiving! Of course, it's still in early development as well.

actually that's the best i'm going to get it at the moment. trying to find horns to match the wampa is hard enough but to get them in HD res then that's the killer.i haven't got a clue where i'd find some horns to match or come even close. i had to use a mixture of wampa & taun taun to do those shots.  then tracking those shots...man that's tough. if you think it looks crap then if i can't get it any better then i'll just have to drop it. This is the big hurdle i have to face now i'm working in HD. its a whole new ball game.

The Golden Idol said:

Also, if any other changes were made, please post pics.

well you got those two. change 1 has 2 differences in it. 1 the taun taun runs faster and 2 i added footprints. apart from a slight change to the starfields & planet in the probe scenes at the beginning, nothing else has been changed

rlockhart said:

Adywan  Watched ESB last night noticed a couple of things both things are before Vader revels he is Lukes father " hope I didnt ruin it for anybody" anyway when Vader is coming out on the walkway he hits the wall on the right of him and there are sparks but in the next close up there are no marks on the wall also the three pipes the Vader cuts through the burn marks on whats left of the pipes look like black spray paint. I can give you the exact times later if need be.  

Thanks, but it's ok i already know about these problems. i'll be doing something to fix it. :)

RoccondilRinon said:

How much of Dagobah's surface do we see? A few square miles, tops? Who's to say it's all the same, all covered in cloud? Real planets aren't all uniform, nor are most of the planets in the series. I don't mind you keeping the E5 Dagobah, especially if you're planning to reinstate that deleted scene in E3, but there's no continuity reason for not using it.

one of the biggest reasons not to use it for this is because its only available in DVD res and i'm working with 1080p. But also my thoughts about dagobah is that it was an ordinary swamp planet when Yoda first reached there but he needed to do something so he couldn't be detected and somehow, maybe through the force, made the atmosphere more dense so he wouldn't be detected, so the E3 version would look a lot different than the E5 version. 

TheoOdo said:

"Now, Viceroy, we will discuss a new treaty!"

Whoah-ho! Hold the phone! They're gonna' discuss a treaty!? WOW! I'm giddy with anticipation! In the words of the young Anakin Skywalker: Whoopie!

Damn you just reminded me of the first time i ever cringed when watching a star wars film. In Wattos shop when anakin goes "Yippee". ...EEEEWW.

Little did i know there was so much more cringing to come. It never happened, and has never happened once during the OT during  any dialogue.

Octorox said:

Fjodin said:

Sorry fro doble post, but adywan wahat do you think about this suggestions:

- Mynock in cave (maybe some small shots)

- Some At-ST at background in Hoth Battle, becausethere only 2 small shots.

- Star Destroyers bombard planet like here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSNonaBw-8  ) after destroying shealdor omething like this.

- Centinels Shutles from E4 (they re not EU) leaving hanger and going towards plaet, or something like this. Because there is no scene how Wader and snow trooper apeare on planet... They just entered the door :(

- Dagobah from E3 Deleted scene 

I have to second the suggestion about Dagobah from the deleted scene. The E3 look as viewed from space was green and lush and gave the planet a character of it's own. The E5 look was pretty bland and actually pretty indistinguishable from Hoth.

But the E3 version looked nothing like Dagobah looks in ESB . Just see just how misty and cloud covered Dagobah is. Luke can't see a thing when he enters the atmosphere so you wouldn't have seen all the surface from space. plus, don't forget that the colouring of the 2004 DVDs screw the planet up anyway.

doubleofive said:

Fjodin said:

Adywann, why you have decided to return original Boba voice... i mean he is a clone of Jango and his adult voise should be like jango and clones... or not?

 

Basically, it comes down to Temura Morrison's Boba voice was literally phoned in, and he just didn't have the same emotion for the lines.  So Ady's logic is who's to say that clones sound exactly like their "parent" or that Boba's and Jango's helmets maybe have a voice modulater built in.  The plan is to redo the voice of JANGO in the prequels to better match the OT, as it should have been in the beginning.

you said it all for me :)

Fjodin said:

Sorry fro doble post, but adywan wahat do you think about this suggestions:

- Mynock in cave (maybe some small shots)

 

Not sure what you mean here. a bit more detail would help

 

- Some At-ST at background in Hoth Battle, becausethere only 2 small shots.

 

yes, maybe but not so they would stick out too much

 

- Star Destroyers bombard planet like here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSNonaBw-8  ) after destroying shealdor omething like this.

 

No. it doesn't need anything like that

 

- Centinels Shutles from E4 (they re not EU) leaving hanger and going towards plaet, or something like this. Because there is no scene how Wader and snow trooper apeare on planet... They just entered the door :(

- Dagobah from E3 Deleted scene 

 

again we don't need to see this. we know Vader is going to land on Hoth as soon as the shield generator is destroyed from general Veer's Holo conversation with him

rlockhart said:

My vlc player also skips and sticks it always work well before any ideas, but what I did see looked great the star destoyer looked 3d in a good way  and the planets colors looked good.

try using media player classic. its free to download and it plays mkv's better than VLC

Here you go:

ESB:R 1080p opening mkv approx 190mb

again a temp soundtrack and low bitrate used