adywan

DarthRayne said:

Could someone post a shot of the rotj ones? I never noticed them but did immediatly in ANH-R.

Now all these were captured when the lightsaber is absolutely still so no extra thickness due to movement. As you can see The thickness of the lightsabers changes in ESB but in ROTJ the sabers are pretty thick, much thicker than the ones in ANH:R. Don't forget that for ANH they used reflective strip on the sabers to produce the core glow, whcih produced all the jagged edges and varying thickness's which i had to attempt to cover up, but for ESB & ROTJ they rotoscoped the blades so there really shouldn't have been a problem with the thickness. All the images were captured from the GOUt so they have always been that way. When people pointed out that the lightsabers in ANH:R were thicker they almost all referred to the ones in the PT which use a totally different rotoscoping technique than the OT and are a lot thinner.

Now Vaders helmet moving in the wind may not be able to be fixed. If he was very still then there would be no problem but because his head is in motion its is going to be hard to pull off. I'll give it a go sometime but i can't guarantee that i'll be able to do it.

DF Shadow said:

Also, this may have already been mentioned but will you be slightly altering the scene where Vader tosses objects at Luke so that Luke actually hits a few of them instead of just swatting at them?

I'm not sure if i will do anything about that. After all, with Luke missing almost all of them it does show just how inexperienced he is and that Yoda was right when he said that he wasn't ready to face Vader

Ganamae said:

1:  When the stormtroopers drops Han off in the detetion cell the trooper on our right ( Han's left ) almost looses his helmet.

I don't think this needs to be fixed because they are only just wearing helmets and this would most likely happen if knocked anyway

Ganamae said:

2:  A new explosion scene made for when the snowtroopers blast their way into the rebel base, the explosion seem so bad, like a wobby star trek set from the 60's, perhaps make it more grand?

I think the explosion is fine as it is. If the explosion was bigger it would have probably blew up most of the command centre.

Ganamae said:

3:  A bigger ground battle when the AT-AT's attack the rebel base, it seems so small and the explosions so few and not that harmful, would like to see it be upped to a more Epic style of battle, More lasers, troopers, ships and intensity.

Would be fun to see a AT-AT actually debark its troopers ( like Veers orders ) see Snowtroopers on the battlefield and perhaps blasting their way into the base.

The battle will be more intense but adding something like the troops debark would probably slow down the pace of the battle. Plus with no existing footage it would be impossible to do

Ganamae said:

4:  To make the Mynocks inside the space slug look less "puppety" and to perhaps give added depth to the environment there? also perhaps do something about their breather apparatus, it looks a bit strange.. like there's something missing.

I doubt there is much i can do about them without creating all CG Mynocks (which i have no clue about how to do anything in CG). Adding depth to the environment isn't needed either. The falcons external lights are the only things lighting up the outside and they are not very powerful. The darkness of the surroundings provides a greater depth than adding in any backgrounds ever could. The breathing apparatus is also ok and doesn't need changing. Although really they should be wearing suits because they should have all frozen to death when they went outside. lol

Ganamae said:

5:  And something that I have always wondered about, the Ion cannon on Hoth, should it's bolts not be blue?

Now this is something that has only cropped up since the PT and the new Clone Wars cartoon. There were no blue laser blasts ever in the OT. This is one thing that seemed to be added in the PT to go with the over-colourful look of those movies. Turning the Ion cannons lasers blue just wouldn';t work. it fires against a blue background so the laser would just blend in. I don't want to change the colour of lasers at all in the OT

Ganamae said:

6: The Destroyer that gets hit by Hoths Ion cannon should have better FX as it gets hit.

yeh, this will be getting an FX overhaul.

Bewy said:

And to come back to ESB (I don't recall having read it before on the forum), is it planned to add any flashes in the overhead shot when Luke and Vader are fighting on the bridge (before Luke falls and Vader says "It is useless to resist"), because I don't see any of these flashes when sabres hit each other. Just checked it out again to be sure :)

And also to fix the X or Y-wing fighter in the last scene (2nd shot, when the medical fregate enters the shot and fighters fly along with it) that disappears something like 2 frames before the end of the shot.

yeh there are flashes.

If you look closely the flash actually happens before the sabers clash, so that's something that needs to be fixed. Also then the rails get hit the explosion lights up the surroundings but this causes you to be  able to see the edges of the matte painting. So again another fix to be done

And the X-wing that disappears at the end, i noticed that when i was doing the colour correction. I though ILM was supposed to have fixed these types of FX gaffes but the whole SE just seemed to me to be a half-assed job

That part in AOTC where the lights go out and you can see them illuminated by the saber glow will be going from my revisited version. Its just horrible. They're supposed to be in battle but its so obvious that they are just swinging the sabers around their heads. Also it only seems that the CG characters have any sort of glow added to them for the most part so i don't think i'll be adding any form of glow on the characters

DarthRayne said:

Please Adywan make the sabers less fat than you did in ANH.

There was a reason for that in ANH. If you look at the original FX the sabers have some really harsh jagged edges and the thickness changes due to the changing light intensity as the sabers move shining off the reflective strip on the saber. Unfortunately making them slightly fatter was the only way to cover them. But they are still nowhere near as fat as they appear in ROTJ. Boy those are going to be a nightmare to fix.

yeh, i watched the ITV showings. Funny thing about them using the 2004 version for ROTJ. Last year they showed all 3 of the '97 versions so i was hoping they did the same this year so i could get a higher res of Sebastian Shaw for my ROTJ:R. I recorded all 3 and was so disappointed when i got to Jedi. But i have ANH from ITV if you need it

Well i always use Megui to reencode the files to x264 then use Tsmuxer to create the AVCHD.

There's a guide for Megui here:

MEGUI GUIDE

Plus a good forum here that also has some great presets for Megui

http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?s=bb3ee9b98ce331ab358093bd749d1ca4&f=78

Presets for Megui

SithTrooper said:

I was watching ESB on Spike TV last night and saw a couple of things that I did not see on the list (page 1).

1) during the Cloud City battle between Luke and Vader I could not see the blue or red glow from their sabers. Can anyone else?

Which part? I didn't see any missing glows when doing the colour correction. Could you give a timeframe at all or a bit more information?

2) when Vader is talking to Luke on the platform (after cutting Luke's hand off) you can see the shell of Vader's helmet moving in the wind.

Yeh, this has been mentioned. I'm not sure if i'll be doing anything with that because we do see that the hood part of the helmet is separate and it does help show just how windy it is up there.

Ady,

I wasn't sure if the list is final, but I wanted to throw those in there if it's OK.

No, the list isn't anywhere near final yet. Ther are just so many things to add to it yet.

 

Darth Yub Nub said:

Star.Wars.EP.V.1997.SE.AVCHD.1080p.ADYWAN.READ.NFO**REPACK**[001/179] - "star.wars.ep.v.1997.SE.1080p.avchd.adywan.REPACK.nfo" yEnc (1/1)
collection size: 8.35 GB, parts available: 34869 / 34869

 

can we download now?

yeh. its fully uploaded now.

darthflan said:

Hey Ady, sounds like you need another 1TB drive. They run for under 100 bucks now on new egg. Thats how Im saving all my stuff on my media center. I've got 4 now :D

 

THANK YOU! for the big .mkv

 

Cant wait for this bad boy.....heading over to a.b.sw right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Is there a discernible difference in the 14gb file in picture quality?

Flan

The picture is pretty much the same quality, but of course the larger one will have the edge due to double the bitrate. But the 14gb version won't be posted until next weekend. But don't download the files already posted. Await the repack coming shortly. There was a problem with the audio which i didn't notice until after i had begun the post. The one to get will be started later today

The 14gb render is complete and ready to go later in the week

I wouldn't waste your money on one of these machines. They have them in my local Maplin stores. i asked for a demonstration and i was totally unimpressed. the picture quality was well below even old model VHS standard. The capturing software, on their demo dual core intel machine was horrid, dropping many frames as it captured. The audio was only mono and the hiss was really bad and sounded distorted.

Wookie Groomer said:

adywan said:

there will also be a higher bitrate mkv version coming shortly after too? It should be about 14GB in size

That has my attention. Nice to see some attention given to those that appreciate better quality than bitrate starved DVD9's. Too bad your A New Hope didn't see the same appreciation. I'm really looking forward to that 14GB version of Empire!

 

Well ANH was going to get a high bitrate mkv version but i ran out of space, with doing ESB Revisited at the same time and i needed to clear out a few un-needed files. unfortunately i accidently deleted the folder with the lossless avi of ANH so that one will never see the light of day anymore. i was totaly gutted.

Darth Solo said:

There you go gavin.

Its because we're all holding our breaths in antici.............pation, as to what comes next, so to say 77. Its the calm before the storm(and adys finalising the 1080P AVCHD of Empire at the moment)! Or perhaps, we've just burnt out with the ideas already? No?

Ha ha. A Rocky Horror reference there.

I should be posting some of the things i'm intending to do with ESB:R soon, so watch this space.

Hmmm. I wonder what that is appearing in alt.binaries.starwars right now? ;)

Oh yeh, did i forget to mention that there will also be a higher bitrate mkv version coming shortly after too? It should be about 14GB in size

Well the rendering is done and it looks pretty good. i've decided to keep the framerate at 23.976 instead of 24fps because some older TVs can't handle 24kz so this one should be more compatible. So here is the specs for ESB AVCHD:

1080p 23.976fps
AC3 5.1 @ 640kbps English laserdisc audio
AC3 2.0 commentaries
English subtitles

Its less than a day away :)

Vaderisnothayden said:

When was the 70mm completed? Before or after opening day?

Also, are you sure the 35mm was the more complete later-made version? Because it actually had less lines, most notably the "thanks threepio", but also some other small bits.

Yes, the 35mm was the later -made version. it is pretty well documented that GL ordered a few extra FX shots and some changes but as the 70mm version was already complete and printed it would have been too expensive to have redone all those prints. That is why there are different lines as it had an earlier mix.

Oldschooljedi said:

Adywan,

What tool did you use for the videoencoding of ANH? I'm really impressed about this.

I use Megui with the x264:SA-Bluray profile settings.

jlw515 said:

3. I too did not like that Chewie had a medal, simply because it just miraculously appears.

Jason

If you look at that scene closely again you will see i added an extra shot of leia preparing the medal and chewie steps forward in the right hand side of the frame, then we cut to Luke as she gives it chewie. So it doesn't miraculously appear. Its a quick shot so easy to miss on first viewing.

vbangle said:

Hush Adywan, Hush

I just had to do it didn't i. Not only does the audio go in and out of synch after encoding to ac3 (even though the sync is spot on all the way through in vegas) but the encoder i use crashed on the 2nd pass of the h264.

back to square one. :(

rcb said:

nice. my birthday is going to rock if you're finished in march!

I can confidently say that it definitely won't be anywhere near ready for March. sorry. :)

Ripplin said:

Neat-o! Seems to have gone fairly smoothly. Yes/no?

Why are our posts all in bold letters? :p

I don't know. It happened after strongbot posted

Well the laserdisc audio was a bit of a nightmare to synch but apart from that things have gone pretty smoothly..... i just hope i haven't jinxed it now.

Well the colour correction is now complete. Now the whole planning stage begins :)

Well the colour correction is now complete and the main laserdisc 5.1 has been synced. ESB AVCHD should be appearing very soon :)

vbangle said:

Hey Ady,

With the AVCHD version will the transparent hoth scenes be fixed? or is that something to be done only in the revisited version?

 

No. the AVCHD version will be the original 1997 theatrical version, complete with original Emperor and even the flipped insignias on the officers uniforms at the end of the movie.

after doing the colour correction i have noticed that almost all the FX shots, including those in space , are transparent. It was definitely the start of ILM doing the "we can  do it this way now so lets do everything this way" scenario. why the hell the falcon is transparent in front of the stardestroyers is just silly. and you can see the TIES through the falcon at times too

Baronlando said:

So now the "secret cut" was on TV? In the 80s? The cut that's being "covered up"? Get real. Star Wars was EXCLUSIVE to pay tv and then network TV throughout the 80s, at huge cost. They didn't make  a "special secret one for broadcast in the bay area", geezus. This is getting ridonkulous.

I know. its all getting a bit conspiracy theorist now isn't it. What next? Princess Diana wasn't killed in an accident but was in fact killed because he had a copy of the "secret cut"?. lmao

Don't TV stations get sent copies of the movies for transmition? And wouldn't all the copies be the same transfer? So why only the Bay area got to see this scene then? Utter rubbish

Vaderisnothayden said:

Does anybody know if the ESB 35mm was released on the same day as the 70mm?

Well it was here in the UK because i saw it on opening day. I don't know if it was in the US though because we got it a few months after

Hunter6 said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

Say for a moment that Hunter6 was right and an extended print did get some showings, does anybody have any idea why it might have been released?.

This is what I heard about this Extended cut. it was a rough cut of the film and copies were made to show to investers. The rough cut copies somehow turned up at some theaters and then were pulled. This is something I can not proof (I can not pull this Extended cut of the film out and say here you go) , but you have so many witness accounts vs Lucasfilm's words.

The double throw grappling hook scene:
Here is a little help, The double throw grappling hook scene was shown on channel 4 (kron/NBC) in bay area, back in the mid-80's in their TV version at 9:00pm. 
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                adywan said:
                 The Marvel comics didn't see an early cut of the film at all.

                then, adywan said:
                There. The previews were only shown in private to a select audience (fox & Marvel among them)

adywan keep up the looking into this becuase you seem to be disproofing your veiw. :)

Hunter6, maybe you should read what i posted properly before trying to make me look like a dick. i was saying that Marvel didn't see a cut of the film at all when doing the comic when i was replying to you when you said that Marvel must have seen an early cut of the film because these scenes ended up in the comics.  Roy Thomas only saw a cut of the film AFTER the comics had been finished and had already been released.

And where is the actual evidence that this was shown on that station in the mid '80's? surely there should be some visual evidence. Video recorders were around at this time yet this clip has never surfaced.