One thing i am planning on, and i really hope that i can pull it off, is i want to replace all footage of Hayden in the vader suit with Dave Prowse's Vader from the OT
Rhikter said:"That alone proves that there was not enough lung damage, if any at all, to warrant a life support suit. Case closed."
Okay, I'm totally confused now. What are you arguing? That Darth Vader should not have a life support suit in the first place? I'm sure that's not what you're saying given how you revere the OT, but based on your last post that's how it sounds.
No, I'm saying that the argument that his lung damage was caused by the brief seconds he was on fire is such a lame reason and that it should have been handled a different way. The way that ROTS showed Anakin's Damage gave no reasoning why he had a life support suit. His lungs weren't damaged enough to warrant this otherwise he would not have been able to scream while on the operating table. As i said before i want to somehow show a better reason why Anakin's lungs became so damaged that he needed help breathing when i get to ROTS
Jambe Davdar said:Anybody know any more details about the 2hr edit of the prequels thats going to be shown in the O2 in Greenwich in April 2009?
JD
It's "Star Wars: A Musical Journey" on 10th April. More details can be found HERE.
The thing with all this new canon crap being introduced is that it is pushing the OT further out of the loop. As i have said many times anything outside of the 6 movies does not count to me as being canon. The PT needs to be radically changed to fit in with the OT and not the other way around & that is what i want to accomplish. The "Revisited" saga has nothing to do with any of the spin-offs and never will do. The Clone wars tv series also messes with what we know in the PT so why it is deemed as canon is beyond me. Anakin shouldn't be able to have a Padawan as he isn't yet a master and is still a Padawan himself. Star Wars is becoming a total mess and has done ever since the PT came out. If we are supposed to make the movies to fit in with what the spin-offs include then we have to make the Ewoks speak and revisions to the movies could never end. GL wrote the Ewok films and that makes them canon if we are saying that any star wars stuff GL has a hand in is cannon. Just because he says the series is canon really doesn't mean much any more. He seems to have lost all reasoning as to what the star wars saga is all about and adds anything in without actually thinking if it would mess with something that is already mentioned or is featured in the movies. Also having a video game become canon is damn ridiculous. It seems anything with the star wars name on it now is suddenly canon. The OT came first so everything should be made to fit around those movies. Then everything that followed the PT should also be made to fit those but it doesn't. That is why the only canon that will exist for Revisited is the movies.
And yet again onto Anakin burning then if you're going to say i take a longer look at medical science then maybe you should too because if we are sticking to medical science then Obi-Wan & Anakin would have died long before the battle ended and would ahve both burned to a crisp. Do you know how hot volcanic lava is? The air would be full of poisonous gasses so when outside the structures shields they would have died very quickly. And as i said Anakin is lying face down close and the flames aren't severe around his face so the fire argument doe not work. Smoke inhalation is the biggest factor in any lung damage in a fire. Read about that guy in the link i posted . he was completely on fire, in an enclosed space and he survived without major lung damage. Anakin was on fire for a few seconds. His transformation was very poorly executed. the original explanation having Anakin falling into a lava pit would have made more sense as the lava would have severely burned away most of his body and his lungs & internal organs would have been severely damaged. All we got was a few limbs missing and a bad burn. Also if you listen to Anakin when they are operating on him at the end he is screaming out . So no lung damage. Another thing they screwed up in the PT. That alone proves that there was not enough lung damage, if any at all, to warrant a life support suit. Case closed. lol
rayzine said:I am a newbie here...
Just want to confirm the following:
1. The "Star Wars Saga - 1080P" mentioned here are refering to the "Revisit" version?
2. Is that only EP 4 and EP 5 available at this moment?
3. Is EP5 also 1080p True 24fps. As I found some Torrents in the net said it is 23.976fps.
THANKS for the hard works and hope can download to watch them soon...
1. No it isn't the Revisited version
2. Yes. Only Ep 4 & 5 is available at the moment
3. No. Ep 5 is 23.976 because some people had problems with the true 24fps Ep4 with their TV's so Ep 5 was changed to 23.976fps to give it a wider compatibility. There won't be a true 24fps version
Happy Christmas :)
can you not connect to any page using IE or is it just the microsoft one? If it all sites then check that your firewall isn't blocking IE.
Merry Christmas everybody. :)
I just hope no one has this damn flu bug thats going around like i have. :(
doubleofive said:Ady, did you find anything on your go-through that any of the "mistake" sites have missed?
I haven't had chance to go through all the mistakes listed on the sites yet so i don't know
AxiaEuxine said:adywan said:
I have said many times that i don't hate the PT. Just because i rank them well below the OT doesn't mean i hate them (well apart from TPM). I just can't believe that you placed ROTS at number 1 above any of the OT. Are you serious or was that just to stir up some trouble because you don't like anyone that bashes your beloved PT? That film is garbage compared to ANH & ESB. Its worrying, and saddening, when i see when some Star Wars fans rate the originals lower than the PT.
Hey Adywan, I just watched your masterpiece again last night with my wife. Great stuff. I am not trying to stir up anything that would be junvenile. I know my opinions are unpopular here so I am trying to treat everyone with respect. My list is genuine. Im sorry you don't get the same jow out of the Star Wars saga that I do, that is saddening to me.
There are times that i really wish i could see the Star Wars saga like you do because it has been such a huge part of my life but i just can't see past all the flaws that the prequel trilogy has.
Monroville said:Ripplin said:^That's a really old one that was "fixed" in the 2004 DVD. And it was never his jacket, it's just a shadow trick. There's a video somewhere that shows him stapping back into the shadow and the difference in lighting on his shoulders is tremendous.
um, sorry to knock on your bucket, but that's a jacket, not a shadow. There's no way his shirt can be white AND black at the same time if he is in a shadow (which would shade his entire shirt, including his collar).
Because you know if this isn't fixed, the whole movie will be ruined for me. FOREVER!
Sorry to knock your bucket (lol) but it is you that is wrong. It is not his jacket at all but just the lighting that created this illusion. Here's the proof taken from Empire of Dreams.
So there you have it. Solved
Sevb32 said:Adywan, are you going to the look at the stills on moviemistakes.com for a guide on errors to correct?
yes, i've been looking through that site.
1. The Empire Strikes back ( A masterpiece)
2. Star Wars (total classic)
3. Return of the Jedi (the signs of the long slide down to the prequels)
4. Attack of the clones (the only PT movie the whole family enjoyed at the cinema but many cringe worthy moments)
5. Revenge of the Sith ( Total disappointment with everything being wrapped up in a rush at the end and the kids fell asleep half way through which was not a good sign)
6. The Phantom menace (the only Star Wars film i have ever walked out of the cinema speechless and depressed. Haven't been able to watch again since its DVD release. )
AxiaEuxine said:If we are talking about Star Wars then yes, I love the original editions. I also love the special editions and some fan edits, In fact I just got done watching SW revisted. what a mastepiece. It only makes me sad that he hates the prequels .
I have said many times that i don't hate the PT. Just because i rank them well below the OT doesn't mean i hate them (well apart from TPM). I just can't believe that you placed ROTS at number 1 above any of the OT. Are you serious or was that just to stir up some trouble because you don't like anyone that bashes your beloved PT? That film is garbage compared to ANH & ESB. Its worrying, and saddening, when i see when some Star Wars fans rate the originals lower than the PT.
Knightmessenger said:I've seen some of the color correction split screen comparisons on youtube. If anything those are great to point out just how bad the 2004 transfers were. I don't know if those are the final look or still in progress but there are a few cases where I think the part of the shot should stay blue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTp8mKFxmbg&feature=related
In the Milennium Falcon. There's a bright wide light in the cockpit. One example is at 50 seconds above Leia's head. I'm pretty sure that's part is blue even on the gout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaskolmE944
Some of the exterior shots of the walkers. The sky looks like it loses too much of the blue hue with the color correction. This occurs at 29 37 49 53 seconds. Now I saw another comparison uploaded about 3 months later in October called Hoth Split Screen. It seems to be the same part but with different color correction. The sky appears to maintain it's proper blue color in this sample.
The hoth battle clip you posted the link to was a first pass of the colour correction. The later one you mention is the final one
as for the cockpit lights here's a comparison between versions:
Hunter6 said:The thing about majel's voicing the computer for this JJ Trek movie is that when a person looks at the info and facts, it really, really looks like an low move by JJ.
This movie had been finish and Originally this movie was going to be released Dec 25 2008. This Movie was done with the Dec 25 2008 release date in mind and JJ never had Majel recorded her voice or even said she was going to it. Then the release date was changed (which is something JJ hated) to May 2009 and the finish film was put in the can a'till May 2009. All this year with the film in the can waiting for it's new release date, JJ never had Majel recorded her voice or even said she was going to it.
Then days before she died, Majel recorded for the new movie on Dec 4 2008.
Majel died Dec 18 2008 only 14 days after recorded for the new movie.
Odd timing that JJ record Majel only 14 days before she died and that before then, JJ never had Majel recorded her voice or even said she was going to be in this film for the past 8 months.
It really, really looks like JJ was not going to have Majel in this film, but then JJ heard about Majel dying and ran to her death-bed to have her record some lines for his film before she died just for JJ to say that she is in the film.
Low move, JJ.
It is also Low that in JJ Abrams condolence for Majel that JJ throws in a plug for his Star Trek:
"She will be immortalized by her life’s work, including, I feel lucky and honored to say, her performace in the latest chapter in the Star Trek saga." -JJ Abrams.
What is the next low move for you, JJ Abrams. are you going to sell parts of Majel's body off on EBAY or just use her name to push your film now that she is dead.
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I'm for one is really sick of all Abrams actions with trek.
I really feel that trek-fans need to do like skyjedi2005 said by boycotting this movie.
You do realise that what you are doing there could be protrayed as being as low as what you reckon JJ has been over Majel's death because he mentioned the new film ? You, unknowingly, are using her death to portray what a low life you believe JJ is.
Majel died of leukaemia and would have been undergoing some really horrible treatment so would have probably been unable to record the voice originally for the movie but when she realised she was dying it may well have been her wish that she record the lines. Do you know that he never asked her to do the voice originally? No. Just because JJ mentioned star trek in his condolences doesn't mean that he was plugging his movie at all. God you really come up with things that aren't even there. So everyone who worked on the Dark knight and said that it was a privilege to work with Heath Ledger on Dark Knight was just throwing in a plug for the movie and were being disrespectful? Come on, seriously now.
So Gene would have hated the movie because it isn't his original vision for Star Trek? Well Star Trek has never been his original vision from the day the first series started. Don't you even remember "The Cage?" That was his original vision and the network didn't like it so he changed the format of the show to what we all know as TOS. Even James Kirk's middle name changed in the TOS. And Spock originally showed emotion in the cage but became emotionless in the series.
You know little about the movie and haven't even seen it yet but continue to slate it. I love ST and have grown up with it from the TOS re-runs in the UK in the early 70's. It continued to change a grow with the times, especially design wise. Star Trek became stale and it needed a good kick in the ass. whether this movie is it, that remains to be seen but i for one won't judge it on a trailer and some gossipy titbits alone. If the movie turns out to be a big steaming turd then i'll be one of the first to admit it but some will still slate the movie even if it turns out to be great.
nohandluke said:This may have been brought up before, and if so I apologize, but I was watching the GOUT DVD this morning and I noticed that when the Falcon releases its landing claw and starts to float away from the Star Destroyer, the view through the cockpit frame has this awful flub in the composite on the right side of the cockpit frame where it looks like they misaligned the background plate because there is this dark gray "screen edge," a perfectly straight edge that is dark gray and covers some of the Falcon's cockpit windows as they float away - clearly unintended, a serious effects flaw.
Is this in the Special Edition/2004 DVD?
Yeh, that was fixed in the SE
ImperialFighter said:Serji-X Arrogantus said:Don't know if this has been mentioned and I'm not going through 186 other pages to find out.
The AT-AT pilots have a red stripe down the back of their helmets towards the end of the Walker Battle.
Yeah, that's definately been previously flagged up, but I don't know what page. I don't think Adywan confirmed if he was going to add or remove them, so that the shots are consistent. I hope he adds, as I really like that extra colour in those shots.
Please, no messing around with the Asteroid Worm's dentures.... But yes, John Carpenter's 'The Thing' is awesome stuff still. :)
yeh i will be fixing that but not sure if they will be removed or added yet.
Asteroid-Man said:I fix the aspect ratio and everything but now it's pixelated and laggy.... I just ran a scan over the source DVD and Adywan's cut is 720X304 with a 23 framerate... so looks like I wasn't bringing down the quality.... now onto AOTC!
The DVD version of ANH:R is 720 x 480 and not 720 x 304 because its anamorphic. Are you resizing it to non anamorphic for your edit?
make sure you download the par2 files too. download quickpar and install it then open up one of the par2 files with it. it will scan the files and repair any if necessary.
BarBar Jinkx said:yeah what the heck is that thing?
you actually answered your own question :). Its from "The Thing". Great movie
no, just shows the yellow box here. No pic
Bingowings said:adywan said:Bingowings said:As for Vader's lungs however they would certainly be damaged (presumably Vader used the force to keep himself alive while he waited to be rescued).
People who are trapped in house fires may suffer from smoke inhalation independent of receiving skin burns; however, the incidence of smoke inhalation increases with the percentage of total body surface area burned.
Vader receives massive burns to almost all of his remaining body and the heat and smoke would have been much more intense than in any house fire and would have effectively written off his lungs so I have no problem with him being stuck in the black suit after such a series of injuries.
But you forget that the reason smoke inhalation is such a serious problem to lungs is that it is in an enclosed space but the lava scene in in an open space so the smoke would never have affected him enough for the life-support suit.
His entire body is going up in flames, and his clothing and he is laying face down on beach of burning coals...even so the heat damage would have pretty much baked the inside of his lungs beyond repair... It's a miracle of the Force that he didn't die before Palpatine and Co got to him.
That still doesn't explain it. You need to read about this guy who was a soldier in the falklands war. This guy was in a ship, which was an enclosed space that was turned into a fireball and he doesn't have any breathing problems. Look at the scene where Anakin burns. there is a minimal amount of smoke and almost none rising from the coals. the flames are all heading skywards and because he is on his front it wouldn't have affected him enough to damage his lungs that bad.
AxiaEuxine said:adywan said:He won't be seen with a lightsaber until ROTS when he beheads the troops.So your excising the entire landing platform fight from Attack of the clones? Why?
well for one Yoda looks ridiculous jumping around like a damn flea and then becomes a frail old jedi once again after the fight. The whole saber fight between Yoda & Dooku is pathetic. The whole "It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the force... But by our skills with a lightsaber" speech is bad beyond bad. Again a line to explain something that doesn't need explaining.
Bingowings said:As for Vader's lungs however they would certainly be damaged (presumably Vader used the force to keep himself alive while he waited to be rescued).
People who are trapped in house fires may suffer from smoke inhalation independent of receiving skin burns; however, the incidence of smoke inhalation increases with the percentage of total body surface area burned.
Vader receives massive burns to almost all of his remaining body and the heat and smoke would have been much more intense than in any house fire and would have effectively written off his lungs so I have no problem with him being stuck in the black suit after such a series of injuries.
But you forget that the reason smoke inhalation is such a serious problem to lungs is that it is in an enclosed space but the lava scene in in an open space so the smoke would never have affected him enough for the life-support suit.
AxiaEuxine said:Ady are you really thinking of not having Yoda use his saber?
He won't be seen with a lightsaber until ROTS when he beheads the troops.
AxiaEuxine said:As far as life support there are little hair-like things in your lungs called Alvioli that actually help you breathe. If you were breathing in very hot air or were say on fire these could get damaged and life support would be needed.
So why didn't Obi-Wan need have to have a lifesupport suit after mustafar then? They were both breathing the same air. I already have a way to show why Anakin needs the life-support and he also won't just spontaneously combust either but i'm keeping that one to myself for now.
AxiaEuxine said:
What if they werent building one death star since bby19 and they were building two? and both took that long to build, why not add a second Death Star to the shot in even a less completed state in
So the rebels only knew of one Death Star then miraculously found out about the other one in time for ROTJ? Why the hell would the Empire build 2 if they didn't even know if the first worked? Not a plausable explaination and the death star is still gone from Revisited.
AxiaEuxine said:It is never said that Darth Plagiues created Anakin. Theres no evidence that this in fact occured. even the book about Darth Plaguies (yes I know you dont like EU) was cancelled. So theres not anything to say that Plaguies did this. The whole conversation about how much power a Dark Lord can achieve is key to Anakin's turn to the Dark Side, without it the whole story would fall apart.
Well maybe you should watch the scene again. It's definitely spoken about plagueis as a way to explain the virgin birth and to imply that he created Anakin. Just look at Palpatine when he is saying about he had the ability to create life. he slowly turns and looks at Anakin. Talk about a big hint there. Also the key to Anakins turning is that Palpatine is making him doubt the nature of the Jedi and also about power. Not anything to do with midicraplions.
AxiaEuxine said:
It is never said that Darth Plagiues created Anakin. Theres no evidence that this in fact occured. even the book about Darth Plaguies (yes I know you dont like EU) was cancelled. So theres not anything to say that Plaguies did this. The whole conversation about how much power a Dark Lord can achieve is key to Anakin's turn to the Dark Side, without it the whole story would fall apart.
last point: So you feel that anakin , the chosen one, being born to basically a nobody with no indication of who the father is is better storytelling than the classically mythical virgin birth?
AxiaEuxine said:
last point: So you feel that anakin , the chosen one, being born to basically a nobody with no indication of who the father is is better storytelling than the classically mythical virgin birth?
Hell yes. Much better storyline. it shows how a good person can turn evil and how power corrupts and not that he was built to be evil from conception. That whole thing changes much of what was said about Anakin in the OT. If he was created by the sith he would have had evil in him all the time and would not have been a good man and turns Vader into a puppet. If he was destined to become evil then he would never have turned back to the good side in ROTJ. The fact that he was only manipulated and not created to be a Sith displays why Luke can sense that there was still good in him and that because it was only manipulation that turned him he was able to save his son.. Changing the PT to fit with the OT is the way to go and never the other way around.
AxiaEuxine said:Posted by Adywan..
I agree that the technology seems light years ahead of what we see in the OT. GL should have shown how the clone wars caused the shift in technology and that times became hard and things technologically wise had come to a standstill. Things in ROTS should have had the "lived in" look that they did in the OT. The clone wars would have used a lot of resources and money and the Empire was starting to take a grip. The end shot in ROTS shouldn't have shown the Death Star being created but instead a vast shipyard of the Imperial fleet being built (which it will do in my edit). So all available money was being ploughed into creating the Empire. The whole ending of that movie was just too rushed to tie up all the loose ends
I dont think the technology was a matter of being light years ahead of the OT. Its more a mtter of the Empire controlling what gets into the hands of anyone else but themselves. Not to mention the disposable nature/attitude towards it soldiers. Thats why the tech looks better in the PT.
I also feel that the Death Star construction shot at the end of RotS is awesome. This should definitely be left in.
Posted by another user (forgot his name)
Now, I know of some adywan's intentions, like, no Vader in ROTS...
I dont know if this is true or not, if it is I beg you to reconsider Adywan. The whole point of the prequel trilogy is Anakin's turn into the baddest Dark Lord ever, Vader.
The Death Star at the end of ROTS was totally unnecessary and wrong on so many levels. So it took them 20 years to build the Death Star 1 but only 3 to build the second one? come on. Totally gone in Revisited.
I am toying with the idea that we don't see vader in the PT but I'm probably more inclined to give Vader a better role at the end. I want to see him hunting down and killing some of the remaining Jedi at the end not the stupid wimp screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" Also i never understood why the hell he needs a lifesupport suit when all that happened was he got burned. His lungs wouldn't have been affected. I'm going to be adding something that explains why he has to breath artificially when i get to ROTS:R
AxiaEuxine said:adywan said:And the hint that Anakin was created by the sith and the miracle Virgin birth will also be gone in Revisited. The PT needs to be given a complete make over whereas the OT is mainly cosmetics.
I would ask you to read my editorial on the PT and OTSE to really understand my position on this. Link at the bottom of my posts.
As for taking out the Virgin Birth and Anakin created by the sith, you have to leave these in. The discussion at the opera is one of the best scenes in the trilogy and is a key component of Palpatine's manipulation of Anakin into turning. The virgin birth is a classic example of mythological lore, Ive never had an issue with it. It should be left in. Whats the alternative? Having this child of prophecy just be born to a slave with no mention of who the father ever was? I dont think that would be better.
oh no. i don't have to leave those in at all. You may have never had an issue with it but most people have and i certainly have. Having the sith create Anakin means that he was always destined to become evil and that takes away the whole story of how a good person can go bad. The PT is full of contradictions story wise. It needs an enema ;) And surely if they had created anakin so he would be able to destroy the Jedi then they would have made sure it was somewhere where the jedi would have spotted his skills, trained him as a jedi and given him the power to fulfil his destiny. Not have him born on an out of the way planet and left his discovery to chance. Even you yourself in your blog say that you don't like midicraplions but you say they have to be left in? Let me quote you
Midiclorians. No one likes midiclorians. I don't like them, you don't like them. One does not need to explain the mechanics of the Force. It's a spiritual thing. However I felt there had to be a reason why they were mentioned and briefly explained in The Phantom Menace and all but ignored in Attack of the Clones. For me this reason became clear during Episode 3. Palpatine explains to Anakin that Darth Plagueis could influence the Midiclorians to create life and stop people from dying. This of course was an important manipulation of Anakin and a major story element. I'm convinced Lucas planned this from the beginning hence the reason for midiclorians.
I think it could have been done differently and midiclorians are weak.
So you say that it could have been done differently but when someone mentions getting rid of them and then actually do it differently you are against it? Face it the PT is crap in comparison to the OT. They will never be hailed as classics as the OT was and still is. After reading your blog i'm almost sure you have watched a completely different set of films than everyone else
AxiaEuxine said:I disagree with this. I love A New Hope revisited and cant wait for Empire, but Im afraid Adywan will do what every fan edit of any prequel movie has done and that is to completely gut them becuase the editor didnt like anything about the prequels in the first place. I hope this isnt the case.
I say leave Threepio in.
I know the midiclorians are gonna be taken out but how do you leave the Opera scene between Palpatine and Anakin intact without them?
well thats probably because they need gutting to tone down the horrible script and wooden acting. Things are explained way too much in the PT. The whole script talks down to the audience. The editing is a mess and is nowhere near as tight as it was in the OT. Just look how long they linger on a scene before either a wipe or a cut. And 3PO is just there for no other reason apart from GL fanwank. He does nothing and Anthony Daniels performance in the PT was more of a caricature of 3PO than the 3PO we loved in the PT. In the OT 3POn was annoying but funny. In the PT he was just pain annoying and i cringed every time he spoke. Just listen to all the "ooh" "ahh" Ughh's" he adds between almost every line. Since when did 3PO do that? Even in the Clone Wars tv series he doesn't do that. 3PO really doesn't need to be in the PT at all but ROTS was the better place to have him make an appearance as Padmes servant droid. The opera scene can easily be kept without the inclusion of midicraplions ever mentioned in the PT. It's all down to editing. And the hint that Anakin was created by the sith and the miracle Virgin birth will also be gone in Revisited. The PT needs to be given a complete make over whereas the OT is mainly cosmetics.
doubleofive said:Pretty cool. Maybe Luke's should have the red box in the middle?
I've added the red box to Luke's binoculars
astromech said:Has anyone noticed that the walker on the left appears to be missing its hind legs...?
It's just the angle that its at.
