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benroberts79 said:

Hey Ady - i mentioned this before, but did you ever look into the magazine series that is out that includes a small but detaled model with each edition 'The Official Starships & Vehicles collection'. These model are probably not ideal for some shots (close-ups), but will be good to use for others and allows you a cheap and cheerful way to get various models used in the movies

yeh, i saw those at our local newsagents last year. i didn't bother getting them though but i see the models are popping up on ebay all the time.

Ziz said:

Speaking of models, and this may fall into the category of "killing a fly with a sledgehammer", but at a sci-fi model convention I went to over the weekend, there's a guy who just started producing a studio scale (or maybe larger) Twin Pod Cloud Car.  Thing's gotta be about 24w x 18d.  It would be perfect for creating whatever cloud car shots you wanted to straighten out the various Cloud City flyovers.  Down side - $400...PLUS shipping.

yeh, that would be a bit of overkill for me to buy one of those for one or two brief shots.

The Golden Idol said:

adywan said:

The Golden Idol said:

So, no one else noticed the bad compositing/outlines of Lando, Leia and Chewie on the balcony? I'm sure it's ILM's fault and not Ady's, but is there any way to fix it? It sticks out.

these are all problems with the original elements. there isn't much i can do without having all the separate elements and re-composite them i'm afraid.

 

But it it possible to just slightly tone down the blurriness, especially around C-3PO? I mean, you did add the blur, right?

it isn't blur, it's feathering. the feathering is set to 1 which is its lowest setting. the main problem is that ILM did a piss poor rotoscoping of the original elements and without having the OUT in HD theres nothing i can do to fix this. Plus it will look a bit more blurry in the trailer because it isn't the final render. i was changing the sky while i was doing the trailer and i didn't get everything finished in time ( same with the bridge shot at the end) so i can guarantee you it doesn't look blurry in the final render

corellian77 said:

ady, a couple questions for ya:

1) how exactly did the added TIE fighter lasers cause problems in the asteroid chase sequence?

2) where'd you get the 2 "yes's" from for the Emperor's new dialogue?  Sounds great.

1 ) i can't really put my finger on it but the TIEs firing just seemed out of place and a little too chaotic. I think in an asteroid field the TIE pilots would be concentrating more on avoiding the asteroids than checking their targeting display. the TIEs only seem to start firing when they are close to the large asteroids surface and i think this works better. so the lasers are definitely gone.

2) its actually the same "yes" i just did some tweaking to it to get it to sound different

fishmanlee said:

EyeShotFirst said:

 Please keep the tie fighter that gets its left wing clipped and it does the Wha da da da da da da da BOOM thing even if you reshoot please let it do that. I have always loved that even for the sound. I listen to the asteroid chase on the ESB soundtrack and hear it in my head. Just keep it please.

The "Electric TIE fighter" scene? i agree it should no MUST be kept

where did this come from? i have never said i will be getting rid of that shot at all.

Darth Lars said:

There is one addition in the trailer that I find a little bit silly, though. That is that the Echo Base gun turret shoots after the Snowspeeders after they have passed it.

• The gun turret fires very close to where you would extrapolate the snowspeeders to fly.
  

• The snowspeeders have yet some time to reach the AT-AT walkers. So, the AT-AT's would still be quite far from the gun turret. Right?
  

why is it silly? the speeders are right by the trench as you can see in the next shot and the turrets by the trenches are firing so why not the first one? it would be sillier to be just sitting there doing nothing when the rebels are deep in battle.

vaderios said:

Ok:

Something that is interesting.

I was looking the mattes and the live action sets and they have some differences.

I tried to match as match i could with both ways to make the thing work.

the mates have already been fixed so the bridge matches in all shots. i updated the screenshots on the first page earlier today so you can see what's been done.

I noticed that you have done something similar to my matte Angel in the sections where the officers are standing. one thing though. The top section of the alcove you added is slightly wrong. it is too wide at the top which has changed the shape of the outer edge of the alcove. it should follow the line of the original as you can see here:

vaderios said:

ImperialFighter said:

Just for clarification, the shot vaderios showed of the 'Bridge' is from the 'fleet massing' near the beginning of the movie, whereas Adywan's shot that is shown is from the end of the movie.  And Adywan has deliberately 'flipped' it.

Which i dont understand...

I mean im with ady to flip the officers, but why the whole bridge?

he is going to flip it again at the beggining?

 

-Angel

 

yes mine is from the end of the movie. At the time i posted the original screengrab the mattes were just work in progress just so i can work out all the continuity of the scene. it was flipped because Piette changes sides throughout the final scene but i needed to go through every shot of the bridge to work out what the matte should finally look like and to enable the matte to be flipped without looking like it is. the bridge will be correct throughout the movie.

vaderios said:

Thx  Impfighter you reminded me an idea i had.

As i see in Ady's video he added a camera shake when the SDs are colliding..

But!

It supposed to be shaking in the bridge not the outside.

So with a bit work can keep the SD in the outside intact.

I  ve made this test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ujxT0bnSe8

Dont judge the shaking, i just put it to show my idea ;)

 

-Angel

I'm keeping the camera shake as it is. the one thing that always looks fake, even though it would be scientifically correct, is when anything outside a window doesn't shake along with the foreground. Its something to do with how our brain perseeves the motion.

Sevb32 said:

I hope Ady got his server issues settled, I hope they didn't cut him off.

well i've had to use dial-up for the past few days but thankfully its all sorted now.

still no luck with the ebay seller. Stil no replies and still no model. I've now put a claim into paypal but god knows how long that is going to take. one things that i did notice though is that he no longer has any items for sale after i emailed him saying that if he didn't reply this time i was putting in a claim. people have received items that they purchased from him after i won the falcon so why the hell is he ignoring me and hasn't sent my model? maybe he's a trekkie. lol. but this has set me back a bit now

vaderios said:Edit: I just noticed that Vader's Chest lights in the scene after han is tortured, when lando and vadie are talking, aren't moving... Perhaps a ANH:R treatment?.

-Angel

check again because there is nothing wrong with them.

DuTwan said:

 Few points i feel i must bring up is that the Hoth battle, the ATATs at the back look a little too fake, mostly due to lighting, i mean the front ones shadows are a light grey whereas the ones at the back are very dark.

actually the rear AT-AT's are the same as the front ones only timed different so they don't look the same. They have been brightened and have a black level of 16 instead of 0 like the front ones so the shadows on the rear ones are indeed lighter. Guess it must be an optical illusion or video set-up that's making them look darker to you.

Ripplin said:

vaderios said:

I d love to keep the lasers that the TIES firing at MF at the asteroid chase( adds more color to the scene)

I was surprised at that too. Hope it makes it into the final cut, as I was really impressed with it.

sorry, but the lasers are gone for good. After i added them there was just something wrong with the sequence that i just couldn't put my finger on at first. it was the lasers. i tried removing them just from the shot where the TIE blows up but that didn't work so they had to go.

Darth Piccolo said:

luke's lightsaber still seems to be transparent as i can still see vader's lightsaber in it.

not sure what you mean by the first thing because none of the sabers are transparent

GoodMusician said:

I would ask that if you decide to remix the music... when you go to do that... maybe pen me a quick letter... there's a lot I can tell you about where to go to get what...and for what reasons. The SE will be your undoing if you simply cut and paste it into the film as it's horribly wrong.

i'll certainly be giving you a shout when i get to the audio side of things.

BarBar Jinkx said:

but there is one thing that stands out to me & unfortunatly it is something that I do not think that can be fixed

the glow of the sabers should be visible in his eyes

actually you wouldn't see the glow at all. the most you would see is a point of light. i may add the point of light but only if i can do it convincingly.

Sevb32 said:

My question for Ady is how is he going to do officers pit part without it looking repeated? I see it's using the part from where Needa and the other guy are on the bridge when the falcon flies so close to the bridge. All those officers are posed the same way as in the earlier shot, so how is he going to stop it from looking like reused shot?

The star Wars films have many reused shots in it. In ANH there is the shot of Tarkin reused before the DS explodes, ESB its Leia on the command centre to name just 2.

Now the layout of the pits on the executor changes in ESB. Look at the shot at the end f the movie when Piette orders the officer to "ready the tractor beam". its actually the avenger bridge pit. no one seems to have been bothered by this before so i'm not too bothered about it now. And in ROTJ the bridge is completely different again.

vaderios said:

In fact... The buildings have the correct perpespective but it should have a blue shadow tint because of the sky reflection :)

you really do have a blue fetish don't you Angel. are you sure you didn't do the recolouring for the 2004 DVD's? lol

i'm not sure why the new fad is that everything outdoors in daylight has to have a blue tint to the shadowing. its a recent misconception and seems to be a rule with many CG & photoshop artists, which is one reason that a lot of CG looks fake. different lighting conditions & atmospherics are what affects the environment, the clouds in the new matte have a yellow tint because of the time of day so the buildings would also be affected by this.

Siliconmaster482 said:

Curiously Ady, why did you move Obi-Wan's head closer to the center?

well this was down to the new background. because i had made Obi-Wan more transparent, like he is in ROTJ, the background had an unwanted effect on Obi-Wan's face in his original position so moving him more to the centre showed off the transparency better without making his face look weird.

nice posters by the way savage and fredstar

Darth Piccolo said:

in the asteriod chase the tie fighter on the far rigth, below the other 3 seems to jerk a bit.

professa said:

just one bad for me

vader's saber thicker than luke's

vaderios said:

Also there is an FX glitch in the laser firing when the ties are hunting the MF in the new Star destroyer shot. ( when the up right TIE shoots near the end the laser isnt moving properly and overlap the tie itself. Its not ady's fault)

Asteroid-Man said:

Ady, are you going to be working on the edges of the rebel ships in the hoth battle? They've got shadows around them.

Sluggo said:

Ady, could you look at the 'levatating' boxes and rocks on Dagobah?  Most of the time, the effect works pretty well, but sometimes it seems more like props on string in some shots.

Also, the trick the stage hands used to lift R2 looks bad.  It just looks like he is being lifted up by a platform on a jack.  I guess I think it ought to look like everything is floating on a space station, just bobbing up and down and not so static.

Enigmas said:

- At 1:44 the taun-taun's motion doesn't look as fluid as the other shot in the trailer (which just looked superb). I love the footprints, though!

The Golden Idol said:

So, no one else noticed the bad compositing/outlines of Lando, Leia and Chewie on the balcony? I'm sure it's ILM's fault and not Ady's, but is there any way to fix it? It sticks out.

these are all problems with the original elements. there isn't much i can do without having all the separate elements and re-composite them i'm afraid.as for vaders saber at least its not as thick as it is on the GOUT. my god that saber is like the ROTJ ones.

i've added annotations to the trailer in my youtube account so you can see what's changed while watching the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtwBQpDl08

Darth Solo said:

Now Adys posted the trailer, its going to be quieter around here now hes making his props, so let him focus on the frustration of that insted of nit picking every frame of Empire that may add to his workload at the moment.

yes, now the trailer is done the video work has stopped. i'm now concentrating on the models and sets. i'm not too happy with the guy i purchased the Millennium Falcon model off ebay as i still haven't received the model. his first excuse was that he had been in hospital and was sending it out last Wednesday but after that he has stopped replying to my emails so i have had to raise a dispute. how the hell can it take so long for a model to get to me when its in the UK but others i have ordered since this one from around the world got to me in no time at all. not a happy chappy at the moment

youtube trailer with proper aspect ratio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPtwBQpDl08

edit:chainsawash beat me to it

ok, well unfortunately i may not be able to get online tomorrow to post the trailer because my ISP is trying to say we have not paid last months bill (even though i have the proof that they took the money out for it) so they are threatening to cut me off f we don't pay an extra month by tomorrow (which we are not going to do.). so here it is a day early

ESB:R TRAILER NEW 720P XVID - 90mb approx

And thanks for all the birthday wishes guys :)

Sevb32 said:

One change I didn't get was removing the Ronto from the tail end of "Not the droids you're looking for." exchange scene. All the dialogue was done with, & it it was perfect the way the Stormtrooper stepped back to reveal the Ronto coming around the corner of the buildings. I understand why the probe droid was removed from the background during the exchange though.

this was discussed in this thread when i was working on this scene. the Ronto is not coming around the building at all. It is just stationary and appears from nowhere so stuck out like a sore thumb.

ok before this grain thing gets out of hand i better pop in and reply.

the grain IS added to the sample clips on the mattes but the grain animation is deliberately disabled so becomes static. the reason for this is because they are just that... sample clips. Enabling the grain animation filter increases rendering times drastically and it just isn't worth all the extra time needed for a sample especially when i will probably be tweaking the shot and rendering it several more times before i am happy with it. the clip at the end of the trailer has been slowed down by over 50% just for the trailer so the grain will look unnatural. but when you say that the final trailer shot background replacement looks distracting it would be interesting if you could post a screenshot and outline the matte that you think looks distracting.

and janskeet, please at least bother to read whats already been discussed in this thread (and the ANH:R thread too for that matter) because its becoming a bit annoying when you keep asking questions that have already been discussed in length and fully answered already. you have been a member here for almost a year now so can't use the newbie excuse. if you can't be bothered to do that then please don't be surprised when people can't be bothered to answer your questions

ihnradio said:

Hey Ady.  Wanted to let you know, we just did an interview with Kyle Newman, who directed Fanboys.  He told us that he has seen your ANH:R DVD, and he and Dave Filoni watched it, along with a some people at Lucasfilm.  And they are following your ESB:R.  Just something I thought you would like to know.

 

Can't wait for the trailer!!

 

Chris

wow, i'd love to hear what their reaction was to it.

i'll have to reply to all the other stuff tomorrow sometime because i'm a bit worse for wear celebrating my birthday.

vaderios said:

Ady: Are you going to add any lights to match with the previous shots?

-Angel

there are no ceiling lights on in the previous shots so nothing needs to be changed here.

vaderios said:

Let me guess. Building Continuity errors again?

 

The last pic is a bit wrong and i did it in purpose. If the big skycrapper is behind from leias room then it would be in front of the camera.

A simpler solution is to alter only the shot that shows leia in the room which has not so much motion.

BUT: the Cloudcar platform is in bad place. Thank god that ILM used 3d elements so its possible to remake it higher.

EDIT: Ok i messed a bit the green lines. The platform should be a bit higher lol

 

yeah! Post 9666 :D

-Angel

to be honest the whole interior and exterior is one big continuity mess. the only solution to solving this would be to change the building that Liea's apartment is in completely or lose the fly-through, which is something i really don't want to have to do.

porkinsred6 said:

I thought of another change to make in the movie.  I hope this doesn't get lost in the pile of trailer comments.

 

I think it would be cool to show yoda actually doing something to the ship so Luke can't control his landing when trying to land on degobah.  Right now it isn't clear why the ship goes all crazy and luke crashes.  Do you think it is a good idea to add somekind of flash or some other indication that the x-wing has a power outage or EMP blast or something.  This could imply that yoda is controlling the ship so it lands near him instead of on the other side of the planet.

 

what do you think?

no, i don't think we need to see anything like this. some things just don't need to be explained to us. Something that should have been adhered to in the PT

now i can't understand what the big fuss is about with me putting my logo in the trailer. it's certainly not an ego thing. i've seen other fan trailers that have had their logo in but no one has ever jumped on them for doing it. It's not as if i have put the logo in the movie. I got the same thing when i added my name in the credits for ANH.

Janskeet, just get the purist version. the original music is used for that shot.

Janskeet said:

I like this image much better. I was really disappointed when I didn't see this replaced with the original shot. Why didn't you use it Adywan?

that was just a WIP and it never made it into any of the versions of Revisited. It may look ok to you in the low youtube resolution but the shot just did not work.

all donators please check your emails :)

Janskeet said:

Okay I downloaded all of the filres again and have extracted all of them with Winrar. I don't get it. Where is the ISO file? Nothing has changed since I extracted it. ALll that it did was show some DVD covers.

did you download the DVD covers along with the DVD-9? How many rar files did you download? sounds like you only extracted the DVD covers or you have your windows set not to show the file extensions so the ISO will probably have a rar icon which is why you are not noticing it.

rcb said:

ady, as u said that ur running out of footage, how about a preview at ur mock ups of the asteroid scene and the hoth generator- if u've gotten that far that is.

i don't start the models until after i have finished the trailer so i can concentrate on those 100%. also, because i really think i have shown too much of this movie as it is, there will be no more previews. the trailer will be the last taste of what's to come until the movie is released.

Hunter6 said:

This bad Star Trek film is so over-hype and the mind-less zombies are in their "It's Amazing" mode (Yet, by the time This film goes to DVD, the mind-less zombies will be in their "It Sucks" mode).

Hunter6 said:

"vote_for_palpatine", I really hate the Lemmings who use the word "hater". Saying Hater is just for the Hype-Lemmings not to think about things. The People on TF.n use the word "Hater" all the time. 

well i've stopped taking anything you say seriously any more. how old are you 12?. so its ok for you to call any of the people  that disagree with you and think this the movie is great "mindless Zombies" but its not ok not when someone retaliates & calls you a "hater". hater is far less of an insult than calling people mindless zombies any day. Only someone with delusions of grandeur would turn to insults because someone disagrees with you. You are not a god and your opinion is just that. An opinion. and then you post comments off other sites to try and prove your point. damn this could be done to back up an argument about how crap any movie is. all you have to do is eliminate any positive comments and you can say that everyone else agrees with you and it can work the other way around too.  I could probably post pages of very positive comments on threads about AOTC but that doesn't mean that everyone thinks its a great film now does it?

AxiaEuxine said:

Chrille said:

...I thought most capital ships in the pt looked fake, like from a video game.

This argument is really tired, not to mention inaccurate. They did not look like a videogame.

 

sorry but it is pretty accurate to describe the way the larger ships looked in the final 2 films of the PT. there was just something about them that looked more like a piece of artwork than a real object. CG can work really well for smaller ships but larger objects should always be a real object. combine the two and that video game look is eliminated. you can tell that physical models were made for TPM. it had a whole different feel to it.

Sevb32 said:

It's cool to enjoy building this stuff, but it all costs money, and sure you could build some of it, but I am sure some people would donate their time and/or models & skills to helping out. Maybe this will encourage some people to get to work on some things, get people who are not gonna worry if their models get banged up a bit while filming. I'd like to see this before I die, and I don't wanna be 50 to 60 years old when I do. Life is too short.

You 've said you don't wanna add things "just because you can" but explain to me the real difference, that gray area, is everything absolutely necessary? Just like not everything in ANH:R was absolutely necessary. Not that I didn't think it was terrific, because it sure was. I guess the key thing is OPINION, not fact.

"I cannot teach him. This boy has not patience." (just kidding)

why rush something just to get it out there when i could take a little more time and money to do it right. Sure there are only a few things that need replacing in ESB:R. you can't argue that the asteroid canyon and Rebel shield generator desperately need replacing along with the rebel hangar mattes. the best way to do this is with models.

Now Jedi needs a lot of work. this is supposed to be the finale to the whole saga yet the whole battle is pretty lame and seems rushed. It seemed more concentrated on the Ewoks than the struggle the Rebel fleet was having in orbit. it should have been the other way around. This should be the battle to end all battles...and it will be. There will be the new ending that completes the saga. you will get to see the reason why they seem to be celebrating around the galaxy so early after the Death Star was destroyed. I need to use models for some of the replacements and extra shots. i don't want to fully use CGI. I haven't yet seen a CGI stardestroyer on the net that looked as convincing as a real model. sure the smaller ships can be replaced by CGI but i don't want a fully CGI scene as it just won't fit in. Having the larger ships be real models and smaller ships be CGI will create a great balance that will fit with the original FX.

If ROTJ:R takes the longest to do then so be it. I have a vision of how i want ROTJ:R to turn out and i have to be prepared to put the extra work in to accomplish this. i'm not going to cut corners just to get the movie out as soon as possible because people are becoming impatient.I will never be working on these films again once they are done. there will be no special editions or revisited. So it has to be done right the first time around because i don't want to be sitting there watching them in a few years time saying " damn i wish i had done this or that" because my whole purpose for doing these edits is to do the versions i wanted to see , and if i begin to wish i'd taken a bit more time and added something else then i would have failed.

Sevb32 said:

Bingowings said:

adywan said:

DF Shadow said:

WoW....just looking at all the effort and corrections AdY is putting into this awesome project I have to wonder.......is EsBR actually more work that AnHR was??

yeh, its turned out that way. but ESB pales into comparison to what i have to do for ROTJ:R. I'll be scratch building a 4ft approx stardestroyer so i can get some of the new Fx sequences i want to get done. And thats just for starters

Earlier I was chatting about how much a shame it is that after building that huge model we only saw one side of the ROTJ Death Star and how it would be impossible to build it again and you come on here and talk about 4ft Star Destroyer models.

After building it I can see you being tempted to go back and fiddle with ESB:R and ANH:R (imagine what shots you could do with such a resource).

 

 

Still I wish he would get help, surely after showing someone ANH:R and ESB:R they'd be willing to help him with the modeling work. I'm betting someone in the U.K. has some of these already built. It's looking like at least another 5 years or more before it (ROTJ:R) will be released.

but i've stated before i enjoy building stuff like this. so what if ROTJ:R does take another 5 years to be released. I'd rather it turned out the way i want it to rather than a half assed effort. i've also said a few times why i won't borrow anyone elses models. its just not a risk i am willing to take.

DF Shadow said:

WoW....just looking at all the effort and corrections AdY is putting into this awesome project I have to wonder.......is EsBR actually more work that AnHR was??

yeh, its turned out that way. but ESB pales into comparison to what i have to do for ROTJ:R. I'll be scratch building a 4ft  approx stardestroyer so i can get some of the new Fx sequences i want to get done. And thats just for starters

well i've been holding off any spoilers for this movie or reviews because i wanted to make my own decision. I love trek, but trek died long ago. It burned itself out. Now i was looking forward to this movie and was going to go to the cinema to see it next week but tonight a friend of mine came around with a bootleg copy and i decided to watch it. And do you know what? I'm still going to pay to see it next week.

I loved it.

It's not the trek that we all know and love but thats why i loved it. How anyone can compare this movie to the crapfest that was the PT baffles me. sure it isn't the greatest movie of all time. sure it isn't the best ever written, directed or acted movie but who cares. it was pure entertainment. Why does everything nowadays have to be perfectly written and have some sort of deep meaning? have we all forgotten what the cinema was all about? Entertainment. It was supposed to be pure escapism. We have the arty and Oscar type of films if we want deep meaning and all that stuff. what has happened to us all? have we forgotten how to just sit back and soak in the entertainment. Sure there is a lot of crap thats just purely special effects and is easily forgotten once the movie is over, but this movie is far from that.

there is always going to be the division between trek fans regarding the different incarnations. i can remember al the same type of things being said about TNG when that was announced. "How dare they do star trek without the original crew.", "i refuse to watch this no matter how good people are saying it is because i know it will be crap", etc etc.

there was so much negativity before this film came out that people made their minds up and were slagging it off before they even saw it and there are those on the net ( i'm not talking about these boards by the way) that will still slag it off after seeing it , even though they may have enjoyed it more than they would like to admit, just to save face. there are those that genuinely don't like it but the majority seem to like it or love it.

now the so called dodgy accents. well chekov sounded just like walter koenig's dodgy accent that this was obviously intentional. if the new guy had done an authentic Russian accent he would have been slated for being nothing like the original. Simon peggs Scottish accent was fine and i'm a Brit. what's with people saying he's the jar jar of trek? i wanted to burn jar jar at the stake he was so annoying. Scotty's didn't annoy me at all.

Everyone has their own tastes and i respect that. i loved it.the only that started to annoy me was the flashy lights and lens flares and the shaky BSG style camera work. for god sake just keep the camera still. but that aside i watched a version that i couldn't really see how good the Fx were so i was able to enjoy it without the Fx being a factor in my enjoyment and i am really glad that this was the first way i got to see the movie. Did anyone else notice that in the last scene of the movie the characters became very original cast?

now this one post surprised me the most out of everyones...

AxiaEuxine said:

I was soooo looking forward to this fil. I was BEYOND hyped to see it...now I have seen it.

This movie is crap. It doesnt feel like Trek in any way shape or form. With all the early reviews this film was getting I was expecting this big epic thing. It never happened. I was almost bored. Nero is our badguy? A ex miner who lost his wife and now he....whatever Im done. This movie was swill, its not Trek.

 

edit: Oh I almost forgot, the musical score is awful. It was distracting for both my wife and I. Product placement and the fucking Beastie Boys in a Trek film. Has the world simply gone mad? How the hell did this movie get such good reviews?

now aren't you the one that starts attacking members here that don't like the PT and think that those films are crap, which they are? This movie is far superior to the PT. The acting is 1000 times better and i didn't cringe once throughout the movie. i lost count how many times i cringed in AOTC alone. when we all say that the PT is not Star Wars and that we hate it you tell us that they are great films and that there is nothing wrong with them. now you are saying the same as we do about the PT about Trek.

you have come over to the dark side ;)

joking aside, no matter how good the film was ever going to be there would always be the people that hate it because its not the original trek.

now my wife absolutely hates Trek and, dare i say it.... she hates Star Wars. But she actually liked this movie and wants to come with me to see it again at the cinema.  It appeals to a different audience and that is actually a good thing in my mind.

AxiaEuxine said:

Hey Adywan can we get some Ewoks in Empire revisited? Maybe have a couple walking alongside an ugnaught and talking? Maybe they could help put Han into Carbon freeze?

Or maybe have some Gungans walking around in the background? Maybe a Neimodian or two?

Oh god, please tell me you are joking

G E Predator said:

Janskeet said:

AxiaEuxine said:

I got the impression Adywan was just trying to save Janskeet some time while Janskeet may only be indicating he doesnt mind posting mutliple pics in order to be thorough, Or put another way...

Adywan: There is no need to spend a lot of time to post multiple pics, one pic normally conveys the idea.
Janskeet: Thanks for that but I dont mind at all and hope it helps.

 

This is how I interpreted it.

 

That's how I was reading it too.

 

and that is how i meant it.

Well apparently they are coming to Blu-Ray, but only the PT for now, with TPM slated for a 2010 release. GL is probably doing more tinkering to the OT movies before we see them on Blu-Ray but wil the colouring be any better? i highly doubt it. I can't see him spending any more cash than necessary on the OT for a HD release. they're already available in 1080p HD and to fix the problems he would have to rescan the negative, do the restoration work and colour correction all over again. Now this may happen if we see the OUT released with the Blu-Ray because it will show just how bad the colouring is on the 2004 transfer when watched alongside ( unless he adds the blue filter to the OUT to try and make out that this is the true colour and they didn't mess up in 2004)

Janskeet said:

I really don't see what the big deal is.

try being a male (by this i mean one that actually cares that he has fathered a child)  who gets a female pregnant and has no say whatsoever if she wants to abort your child. Abortion has become as readily available over here as the contraception pill. no one seems to have to take responsibility for their actions any more. its just do what you want, take a pill and abort the child. It being given to children as young as 10 now by GP's without the parents even having any knowledge of it.

Now there are circumstances where an abortion would be the best option, but when its done so casually i'm totally against that.

ImperialFighter said:

adywan said:

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

Ady, how do you plan to shoot smooth shots of the Falcon etc... you using some sort of motion control to help with those shots ?

i'm going to have to build some sort of rig. i'm designing it at the moment and will hopefully start building it later next week.

after the trailer is complete and posted i will be taking a break from the video work and i am going to fuly concentrate on building the sets and models.

 

I'm hoping that ALL your various model / prop-making efforts to do with this edit onwards will be extensively filmed or photographed along the way, as much as is possible.  It will make for a very interesting record of the work you're putting into all this, if they can be viewed somewhere eventually.

yes i will be extensively documenting the model making to include in a making of that will either be released alongside ESB:R or after ROTJ:R is complete. i have something special planned for a bonus disc ( or maybe 2 bonus discs)

seven said:

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

I'd have thought that the Fine Molds Falcon was way too small to get any real good shots of, there are people out there building Studio Scale Replicas of the Star Wars vehicles that are far more accurate than the Fine Molds model in terms of the surface detail etc...  Is it not worth asking on Replica Prop forums for a UK based modeller who might already have a bigger version built that you could use, I know there's the transport depending on how far away etc... but it might be worth a try !

While the Fine Molds Millennium Falcon is on the 'small' side, it is the best model you can get for the money. It has gotten great reviews from modelers on its attention to detail and ESB movie accuracy. It doesn't even compare to the cheaper Revell model. While it's Not 100% perfect, you wont find a better model for $200. Now, the Master Replica Studio Scale MF is much larger and would be great to use, however it isn't 100% accurate either, and $2000 is far less affordable. Not to mention the bigger your model, the bigger the set you have to build.

As far as borrowing models, (esp. from members of the RPF.com) it has been mentioned before, however Ady has expressed his concerns about accidentally breaking someone else's model and has so far turned down the option.

 

A couple links of the Fine Molds Falcon potential

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=39986

http://12-parsecs.blogspot.com/

 

thanks for the links seven. I can't wait til its delivered and i can get started on this baby. Thos photos just prove to me that there is enough detail on this ship to be able to use it for these edits. Although many people have said that the dish is too small on the finemolds version its actually correct if you compare it to the model is was designed on, which was the 32" studio model. The 5ft model had the larger dish whereas the 32" had a smaller dish. As many modellers use reference photos of the 5ft model as reference the dish becomes the wrong size. now i don't know if i will give this the larger dish or not yet. there is a chance i wil ahve to so i can match it up with the full size set.

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

Ady, how do you plan to shoot smooth shots of the Falcon etc... you using some sort of motion control to help with those shots ?

i'm going to have to build some sort of rig. i'm designing it at the moment and will hopefully start building it later next week.

Janskeet said:

I don't really see how the canyon chase is any worse/better than any other effects in ESB. I think this is pretty bad too:

i would say the crater scene is hell of a lot worse than this shot. This shot is relatively easy to fix whereas the canyon needs all new elements for the most of it. so building a new set is my only option. Janskeet you don't need to post a whole sequence of pics, one would suffice.

vaderios said:

IF you notice after the explosion when MF is read to come out of the canyon the supposed asteroid/cratter is other footage because its moving from its own ;)

-Angel

yeh, i'm hoping to do something about that.

Janskeet said:

I don't recall Adywan mentioning changes to Darth Vader's shoulder being hit by Luke's lightsaber. We see Vader's shoulder get hit but no marks of it after. Perhaps you could do something about this Adywan?

not sure if i'm going to do anything about this. its more of a glancing blow than a full on hit or his arm would have been severed.

rcb said:

ady, aren't u doing a new modle of the sheild generator on hoth?

yes i am.

after the trailer is complete and posted i will be taking a break from the video work and i am going to fuly concentrate on building the sets and models.

Janskeet said:

Adywan, have you worked on or have any plans to make Luke's hand getting cut off more realistic?

yes

buddy-x-wing said:

I'm not sure if this has been addressed before and I didn't see it mentioned in Ady's big list of changes on page 1,

 but at the climax of the film,  where we pan in on the rebel fleet and the Millenium Falcon is docked to the Medical frigate and the camera zooms in on an obviously empty Falcon cockpit with very little interior lighting, and then cuts to a close up shot of Lando sitting in the cockpit with completely different lighting and he's talking to luke on the comlink  "well Luke, we're ready for take off"  then it cuts back to the exterior shot again showing the cockpit empty as the shot pans from the falcon to Medical frigate window.

Would it be possible to insert a plate of Lando sitting in the cockpit making his pre-flight adjustments,  it s always been a very jarring and clumsy transition between the exterior and interior shots,  and really makes the exterior shots look like the models they are.  I'm sure it'd be a complex job to match the camera pan and to make sure the plate of Lando actually look like he was sitting in the cockpit, but compared to everything else we've seen Ady capable of doing ,  I'm sure it could be pulled off convincingly.

i'm hoping to do something about that too. there is another problem with that scene too. it pans from the medical frigate window but 3PO & R2 are missing so i'm going to have to add them too.

G E Predator said:

And Ady, don't hate me for this:

I'm the one that posted your whole ANH:R on YouTube.  I only did it to share your treasure with other fans.

no, its fine. i'm surprised it hasn't been taken down yet though, but this could be a good sign about fan edits in general.

Ithilgore said:

A question about donations, is there any estimate on how much all this new material will cost?Just to know how big a donation ought to be. I'ven not got any way of using PayPal at the moment, but maybe in the future I can donate something.

i would say i've got a few hundred pounds more in material expenses yet. i can't get anything i need where i live but i'm off down to Birmingham for a day out for my birthday in just over a week so i'm hoping i'll be able to get at least some of the things i need down there.

Janskeet said:

One thing I have noticed about DVD software is the audio level is very low on them.  I have to turn the volume up much higher than with other software to hear the audio comfortably. I was wondering if there is a way to raise the standard volume level on the software.  

its most likely because DVD audio is AC3 5.1 and is naturally lower when downmixed to stereo

Janskeet said:

Tobar said:

Janskeet said:

vaderios said:

Ady already uses HD versions to make ESB ;)

-Angel

I'm talking about the blu-ray version LFL will eventually have to come out with.

 

Any official blu-ray release will likely just be the same thing that was released on DVD and broadcast in HD. Adywan is using the (was it german?) HD broadcast of ESB to create his edit. So when times comes to release it there'll be a regular DVD release as well as an HD release (in I believe 720p).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way to get 1080p is blu-ray, right? I know Ady is using an HD broadcast, but it isn't true HD because it is not 1080p right?

 

the German HD broadcasts, along with the SKYHD ones were transmitted in 1080p so the source used is true HD

Janskeet said:

I don't know if this is correct, I don't have the GOUT and I have fullscreen VHS tapes. But from my memory, the scene where we see the Executioner moving out of the asteroid field, they show it physically moving out of the asteroid field in the '97 and '04 version. To my memory, in the original version, they show the ship moving through the asteroid field without sight of the end of the asteroid field present. I prefer that version better. Someone with the GOUT, could you post an image of that scene from the GOUT please? My VHS tapes are fullscreen so it is hard for me to tell whether they show the end ofthe asteriod field or not.

 

no that shot has always been the same. here's the same frame from the GOUT

Janskeet said:

Adywan, I would like to donate to your cause. How do I donate?

you can donate through paypal to the email address in my signature