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ihnradio said:

Hey Ady.  Wanted to let you know, we just did an interview with Kyle Newman, who directed Fanboys.  He told us that he has seen your ANH:R DVD, and he and Dave Filoni watched it, along with a some people at Lucasfilm.  And they are following your ESB:R.  Just something I thought you would like to know.

 

Can't wait for the trailer!!

 

Chris

wow, i'd love to hear what their reaction was to it.

i'll have to reply to all the other stuff tomorrow sometime because i'm a bit worse for wear celebrating my birthday.

vaderios said:

Ady: Are you going to add any lights to match with the previous shots?

-Angel

there are no ceiling lights on in the previous shots so nothing needs to be changed here.

vaderios said:

Let me guess. Building Continuity errors again?

 

The last pic is a bit wrong and i did it in purpose. If the big skycrapper is behind from leias room then it would be in front of the camera.

A simpler solution is to alter only the shot that shows leia in the room which has not so much motion.

BUT: the Cloudcar platform is in bad place. Thank god that ILM used 3d elements so its possible to remake it higher.

EDIT: Ok i messed a bit the green lines. The platform should be a bit higher lol

 

yeah! Post 9666 :D

-Angel

to be honest the whole interior and exterior is one big continuity mess. the only solution to solving this would be to change the building that Liea's apartment is in completely or lose the fly-through, which is something i really don't want to have to do.

porkinsred6 said:

I thought of another change to make in the movie.  I hope this doesn't get lost in the pile of trailer comments.

 

I think it would be cool to show yoda actually doing something to the ship so Luke can't control his landing when trying to land on degobah.  Right now it isn't clear why the ship goes all crazy and luke crashes.  Do you think it is a good idea to add somekind of flash or some other indication that the x-wing has a power outage or EMP blast or something.  This could imply that yoda is controlling the ship so it lands near him instead of on the other side of the planet.

 

what do you think?

no, i don't think we need to see anything like this. some things just don't need to be explained to us. Something that should have been adhered to in the PT

now i can't understand what the big fuss is about with me putting my logo in the trailer. it's certainly not an ego thing. i've seen other fan trailers that have had their logo in but no one has ever jumped on them for doing it. It's not as if i have put the logo in the movie. I got the same thing when i added my name in the credits for ANH.

Janskeet, just get the purist version. the original music is used for that shot.

Janskeet said:

I like this image much better. I was really disappointed when I didn't see this replaced with the original shot. Why didn't you use it Adywan?

that was just a WIP and it never made it into any of the versions of Revisited. It may look ok to you in the low youtube resolution but the shot just did not work.

all donators please check your emails :)

Janskeet said:

Okay I downloaded all of the filres again and have extracted all of them with Winrar. I don't get it. Where is the ISO file? Nothing has changed since I extracted it. ALll that it did was show some DVD covers.

did you download the DVD covers along with the DVD-9? How many rar files did you download? sounds like you only extracted the DVD covers or you have your windows set not to show the file extensions so the ISO will probably have a rar icon which is why you are not noticing it.

rcb said:

ady, as u said that ur running out of footage, how about a preview at ur mock ups of the asteroid scene and the hoth generator- if u've gotten that far that is.

i don't start the models until after i have finished the trailer so i can concentrate on those 100%. also, because i really think i have shown too much of this movie as it is, there will be no more previews. the trailer will be the last taste of what's to come until the movie is released.

Hunter6 said:

This bad Star Trek film is so over-hype and the mind-less zombies are in their "It's Amazing" mode (Yet, by the time This film goes to DVD, the mind-less zombies will be in their "It Sucks" mode).

Hunter6 said:

"vote_for_palpatine", I really hate the Lemmings who use the word "hater". Saying Hater is just for the Hype-Lemmings not to think about things. The People on TF.n use the word "Hater" all the time. 

well i've stopped taking anything you say seriously any more. how old are you 12?. so its ok for you to call any of the people  that disagree with you and think this the movie is great "mindless Zombies" but its not ok not when someone retaliates & calls you a "hater". hater is far less of an insult than calling people mindless zombies any day. Only someone with delusions of grandeur would turn to insults because someone disagrees with you. You are not a god and your opinion is just that. An opinion. and then you post comments off other sites to try and prove your point. damn this could be done to back up an argument about how crap any movie is. all you have to do is eliminate any positive comments and you can say that everyone else agrees with you and it can work the other way around too.  I could probably post pages of very positive comments on threads about AOTC but that doesn't mean that everyone thinks its a great film now does it?

AxiaEuxine said:

Chrille said:

...I thought most capital ships in the pt looked fake, like from a video game.

This argument is really tired, not to mention inaccurate. They did not look like a videogame.

 

sorry but it is pretty accurate to describe the way the larger ships looked in the final 2 films of the PT. there was just something about them that looked more like a piece of artwork than a real object. CG can work really well for smaller ships but larger objects should always be a real object. combine the two and that video game look is eliminated. you can tell that physical models were made for TPM. it had a whole different feel to it.

Sevb32 said:

It's cool to enjoy building this stuff, but it all costs money, and sure you could build some of it, but I am sure some people would donate their time and/or models & skills to helping out. Maybe this will encourage some people to get to work on some things, get people who are not gonna worry if their models get banged up a bit while filming. I'd like to see this before I die, and I don't wanna be 50 to 60 years old when I do. Life is too short.

You 've said you don't wanna add things "just because you can" but explain to me the real difference, that gray area, is everything absolutely necessary? Just like not everything in ANH:R was absolutely necessary. Not that I didn't think it was terrific, because it sure was. I guess the key thing is OPINION, not fact.

"I cannot teach him. This boy has not patience." (just kidding)

why rush something just to get it out there when i could take a little more time and money to do it right. Sure there are only a few things that need replacing in ESB:R. you can't argue that the asteroid canyon and Rebel shield generator desperately need replacing along with the rebel hangar mattes. the best way to do this is with models.

Now Jedi needs a lot of work. this is supposed to be the finale to the whole saga yet the whole battle is pretty lame and seems rushed. It seemed more concentrated on the Ewoks than the struggle the Rebel fleet was having in orbit. it should have been the other way around. This should be the battle to end all battles...and it will be. There will be the new ending that completes the saga. you will get to see the reason why they seem to be celebrating around the galaxy so early after the Death Star was destroyed. I need to use models for some of the replacements and extra shots. i don't want to fully use CGI. I haven't yet seen a CGI stardestroyer on the net that looked as convincing as a real model. sure the smaller ships can be replaced by CGI but i don't want a fully CGI scene as it just won't fit in. Having the larger ships be real models and smaller ships be CGI will create a great balance that will fit with the original FX.

If ROTJ:R takes the longest to do then so be it. I have a vision of how i want ROTJ:R to turn out and i have to be prepared to put the extra work in to accomplish this. i'm not going to cut corners just to get the movie out as soon as possible because people are becoming impatient.I will never be working on these films again once they are done. there will be no special editions or revisited. So it has to be done right the first time around because i don't want to be sitting there watching them in a few years time saying " damn i wish i had done this or that" because my whole purpose for doing these edits is to do the versions i wanted to see , and if i begin to wish i'd taken a bit more time and added something else then i would have failed.

Sevb32 said:

Bingowings said:

adywan said:

DF Shadow said:

WoW....just looking at all the effort and corrections AdY is putting into this awesome project I have to wonder.......is EsBR actually more work that AnHR was??

yeh, its turned out that way. but ESB pales into comparison to what i have to do for ROTJ:R. I'll be scratch building a 4ft approx stardestroyer so i can get some of the new Fx sequences i want to get done. And thats just for starters

Earlier I was chatting about how much a shame it is that after building that huge model we only saw one side of the ROTJ Death Star and how it would be impossible to build it again and you come on here and talk about 4ft Star Destroyer models.

After building it I can see you being tempted to go back and fiddle with ESB:R and ANH:R (imagine what shots you could do with such a resource).

 

 

Still I wish he would get help, surely after showing someone ANH:R and ESB:R they'd be willing to help him with the modeling work. I'm betting someone in the U.K. has some of these already built. It's looking like at least another 5 years or more before it (ROTJ:R) will be released.

but i've stated before i enjoy building stuff like this. so what if ROTJ:R does take another 5 years to be released. I'd rather it turned out the way i want it to rather than a half assed effort. i've also said a few times why i won't borrow anyone elses models. its just not a risk i am willing to take.

DF Shadow said:

WoW....just looking at all the effort and corrections AdY is putting into this awesome project I have to wonder.......is EsBR actually more work that AnHR was??

yeh, its turned out that way. but ESB pales into comparison to what i have to do for ROTJ:R. I'll be scratch building a 4ft  approx stardestroyer so i can get some of the new Fx sequences i want to get done. And thats just for starters

well i've been holding off any spoilers for this movie or reviews because i wanted to make my own decision. I love trek, but trek died long ago. It burned itself out. Now i was looking forward to this movie and was going to go to the cinema to see it next week but tonight a friend of mine came around with a bootleg copy and i decided to watch it. And do you know what? I'm still going to pay to see it next week.

I loved it.

It's not the trek that we all know and love but thats why i loved it. How anyone can compare this movie to the crapfest that was the PT baffles me. sure it isn't the greatest movie of all time. sure it isn't the best ever written, directed or acted movie but who cares. it was pure entertainment. Why does everything nowadays have to be perfectly written and have some sort of deep meaning? have we all forgotten what the cinema was all about? Entertainment. It was supposed to be pure escapism. We have the arty and Oscar type of films if we want deep meaning and all that stuff. what has happened to us all? have we forgotten how to just sit back and soak in the entertainment. Sure there is a lot of crap thats just purely special effects and is easily forgotten once the movie is over, but this movie is far from that.

there is always going to be the division between trek fans regarding the different incarnations. i can remember al the same type of things being said about TNG when that was announced. "How dare they do star trek without the original crew.", "i refuse to watch this no matter how good people are saying it is because i know it will be crap", etc etc.

there was so much negativity before this film came out that people made their minds up and were slagging it off before they even saw it and there are those on the net ( i'm not talking about these boards by the way) that will still slag it off after seeing it , even though they may have enjoyed it more than they would like to admit, just to save face. there are those that genuinely don't like it but the majority seem to like it or love it.

now the so called dodgy accents. well chekov sounded just like walter koenig's dodgy accent that this was obviously intentional. if the new guy had done an authentic Russian accent he would have been slated for being nothing like the original. Simon peggs Scottish accent was fine and i'm a Brit. what's with people saying he's the jar jar of trek? i wanted to burn jar jar at the stake he was so annoying. Scotty's didn't annoy me at all.

Everyone has their own tastes and i respect that. i loved it.the only that started to annoy me was the flashy lights and lens flares and the shaky BSG style camera work. for god sake just keep the camera still. but that aside i watched a version that i couldn't really see how good the Fx were so i was able to enjoy it without the Fx being a factor in my enjoyment and i am really glad that this was the first way i got to see the movie. Did anyone else notice that in the last scene of the movie the characters became very original cast?

now this one post surprised me the most out of everyones...

AxiaEuxine said:

I was soooo looking forward to this fil. I was BEYOND hyped to see it...now I have seen it.

This movie is crap. It doesnt feel like Trek in any way shape or form. With all the early reviews this film was getting I was expecting this big epic thing. It never happened. I was almost bored. Nero is our badguy? A ex miner who lost his wife and now he....whatever Im done. This movie was swill, its not Trek.

 

edit: Oh I almost forgot, the musical score is awful. It was distracting for both my wife and I. Product placement and the fucking Beastie Boys in a Trek film. Has the world simply gone mad? How the hell did this movie get such good reviews?

now aren't you the one that starts attacking members here that don't like the PT and think that those films are crap, which they are? This movie is far superior to the PT. The acting is 1000 times better and i didn't cringe once throughout the movie. i lost count how many times i cringed in AOTC alone. when we all say that the PT is not Star Wars and that we hate it you tell us that they are great films and that there is nothing wrong with them. now you are saying the same as we do about the PT about Trek.

you have come over to the dark side ;)

joking aside, no matter how good the film was ever going to be there would always be the people that hate it because its not the original trek.

now my wife absolutely hates Trek and, dare i say it.... she hates Star Wars. But she actually liked this movie and wants to come with me to see it again at the cinema.  It appeals to a different audience and that is actually a good thing in my mind.

AxiaEuxine said:

Hey Adywan can we get some Ewoks in Empire revisited? Maybe have a couple walking alongside an ugnaught and talking? Maybe they could help put Han into Carbon freeze?

Or maybe have some Gungans walking around in the background? Maybe a Neimodian or two?

Oh god, please tell me you are joking

G E Predator said:

Janskeet said:

AxiaEuxine said:

I got the impression Adywan was just trying to save Janskeet some time while Janskeet may only be indicating he doesnt mind posting mutliple pics in order to be thorough, Or put another way...

Adywan: There is no need to spend a lot of time to post multiple pics, one pic normally conveys the idea.
Janskeet: Thanks for that but I dont mind at all and hope it helps.

 

This is how I interpreted it.

 

That's how I was reading it too.

 

and that is how i meant it.

Well apparently they are coming to Blu-Ray, but only the PT for now, with TPM slated for a 2010 release. GL is probably doing more tinkering to the OT movies before we see them on Blu-Ray but wil the colouring be any better? i highly doubt it. I can't see him spending any more cash than necessary on the OT for a HD release. they're already available in 1080p HD and to fix the problems he would have to rescan the negative, do the restoration work and colour correction all over again. Now this may happen if we see the OUT released with the Blu-Ray because it will show just how bad the colouring is on the 2004 transfer when watched alongside ( unless he adds the blue filter to the OUT to try and make out that this is the true colour and they didn't mess up in 2004)

Janskeet said:

I really don't see what the big deal is.

try being a male (by this i mean one that actually cares that he has fathered a child)  who gets a female pregnant and has no say whatsoever if she wants to abort your child. Abortion has become as readily available over here as the contraception pill. no one seems to have to take responsibility for their actions any more. its just do what you want, take a pill and abort the child. It being given to children as young as 10 now by GP's without the parents even having any knowledge of it.

Now there are circumstances where an abortion would be the best option, but when its done so casually i'm totally against that.

ImperialFighter said:

adywan said:

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

Ady, how do you plan to shoot smooth shots of the Falcon etc... you using some sort of motion control to help with those shots ?

i'm going to have to build some sort of rig. i'm designing it at the moment and will hopefully start building it later next week.

after the trailer is complete and posted i will be taking a break from the video work and i am going to fuly concentrate on building the sets and models.

 

I'm hoping that ALL your various model / prop-making efforts to do with this edit onwards will be extensively filmed or photographed along the way, as much as is possible.  It will make for a very interesting record of the work you're putting into all this, if they can be viewed somewhere eventually.

yes i will be extensively documenting the model making to include in a making of that will either be released alongside ESB:R or after ROTJ:R is complete. i have something special planned for a bonus disc ( or maybe 2 bonus discs)

seven said:

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

I'd have thought that the Fine Molds Falcon was way too small to get any real good shots of, there are people out there building Studio Scale Replicas of the Star Wars vehicles that are far more accurate than the Fine Molds model in terms of the surface detail etc...  Is it not worth asking on Replica Prop forums for a UK based modeller who might already have a bigger version built that you could use, I know there's the transport depending on how far away etc... but it might be worth a try !

While the Fine Molds Millennium Falcon is on the 'small' side, it is the best model you can get for the money. It has gotten great reviews from modelers on its attention to detail and ESB movie accuracy. It doesn't even compare to the cheaper Revell model. While it's Not 100% perfect, you wont find a better model for $200. Now, the Master Replica Studio Scale MF is much larger and would be great to use, however it isn't 100% accurate either, and $2000 is far less affordable. Not to mention the bigger your model, the bigger the set you have to build.

As far as borrowing models, (esp. from members of the RPF.com) it has been mentioned before, however Ady has expressed his concerns about accidentally breaking someone else's model and has so far turned down the option.

 

A couple links of the Fine Molds Falcon potential

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=39986

http://12-parsecs.blogspot.com/

 

thanks for the links seven. I can't wait til its delivered and i can get started on this baby. Thos photos just prove to me that there is enough detail on this ship to be able to use it for these edits. Although many people have said that the dish is too small on the finemolds version its actually correct if you compare it to the model is was designed on, which was the 32" studio model. The 5ft model had the larger dish whereas the 32" had a smaller dish. As many modellers use reference photos of the 5ft model as reference the dish becomes the wrong size. now i don't know if i will give this the larger dish or not yet. there is a chance i wil ahve to so i can match it up with the full size set.

Serji-X Arrogantus said:

Ady, how do you plan to shoot smooth shots of the Falcon etc... you using some sort of motion control to help with those shots ?

i'm going to have to build some sort of rig. i'm designing it at the moment and will hopefully start building it later next week.

Janskeet said:

I don't really see how the canyon chase is any worse/better than any other effects in ESB. I think this is pretty bad too:

i would say the crater scene is hell of a lot worse than this shot. This shot is relatively easy to fix whereas the canyon needs all new elements for the most of it. so building a new set is my only option. Janskeet you don't need to post a whole sequence of pics, one would suffice.

vaderios said:

IF you notice after the explosion when MF is read to come out of the canyon the supposed asteroid/cratter is other footage because its moving from its own ;)

-Angel

yeh, i'm hoping to do something about that.

Janskeet said:

I don't recall Adywan mentioning changes to Darth Vader's shoulder being hit by Luke's lightsaber. We see Vader's shoulder get hit but no marks of it after. Perhaps you could do something about this Adywan?

not sure if i'm going to do anything about this. its more of a glancing blow than a full on hit or his arm would have been severed.

rcb said:

ady, aren't u doing a new modle of the sheild generator on hoth?

yes i am.

after the trailer is complete and posted i will be taking a break from the video work and i am going to fuly concentrate on building the sets and models.

Janskeet said:

Adywan, have you worked on or have any plans to make Luke's hand getting cut off more realistic?

yes

buddy-x-wing said:

I'm not sure if this has been addressed before and I didn't see it mentioned in Ady's big list of changes on page 1,

 but at the climax of the film,  where we pan in on the rebel fleet and the Millenium Falcon is docked to the Medical frigate and the camera zooms in on an obviously empty Falcon cockpit with very little interior lighting, and then cuts to a close up shot of Lando sitting in the cockpit with completely different lighting and he's talking to luke on the comlink  "well Luke, we're ready for take off"  then it cuts back to the exterior shot again showing the cockpit empty as the shot pans from the falcon to Medical frigate window.

Would it be possible to insert a plate of Lando sitting in the cockpit making his pre-flight adjustments,  it s always been a very jarring and clumsy transition between the exterior and interior shots,  and really makes the exterior shots look like the models they are.  I'm sure it'd be a complex job to match the camera pan and to make sure the plate of Lando actually look like he was sitting in the cockpit, but compared to everything else we've seen Ady capable of doing ,  I'm sure it could be pulled off convincingly.

i'm hoping to do something about that too. there is another problem with that scene too. it pans from the medical frigate window but 3PO & R2 are missing so i'm going to have to add them too.

G E Predator said:

And Ady, don't hate me for this:

I'm the one that posted your whole ANH:R on YouTube.  I only did it to share your treasure with other fans.

no, its fine. i'm surprised it hasn't been taken down yet though, but this could be a good sign about fan edits in general.

Ithilgore said:

A question about donations, is there any estimate on how much all this new material will cost?Just to know how big a donation ought to be. I'ven not got any way of using PayPal at the moment, but maybe in the future I can donate something.

i would say i've got a few hundred pounds more in material expenses yet. i can't get anything i need where i live but i'm off down to Birmingham for a day out for my birthday in just over a week so i'm hoping i'll be able to get at least some of the things i need down there.

Janskeet said:

One thing I have noticed about DVD software is the audio level is very low on them.  I have to turn the volume up much higher than with other software to hear the audio comfortably. I was wondering if there is a way to raise the standard volume level on the software.  

its most likely because DVD audio is AC3 5.1 and is naturally lower when downmixed to stereo

Janskeet said:

Tobar said:

Janskeet said:

vaderios said:

Ady already uses HD versions to make ESB ;)

-Angel

I'm talking about the blu-ray version LFL will eventually have to come out with.

 

Any official blu-ray release will likely just be the same thing that was released on DVD and broadcast in HD. Adywan is using the (was it german?) HD broadcast of ESB to create his edit. So when times comes to release it there'll be a regular DVD release as well as an HD release (in I believe 720p).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way to get 1080p is blu-ray, right? I know Ady is using an HD broadcast, but it isn't true HD because it is not 1080p right?

 

the German HD broadcasts, along with the SKYHD ones were transmitted in 1080p so the source used is true HD

Janskeet said:

I don't know if this is correct, I don't have the GOUT and I have fullscreen VHS tapes. But from my memory, the scene where we see the Executioner moving out of the asteroid field, they show it physically moving out of the asteroid field in the '97 and '04 version. To my memory, in the original version, they show the ship moving through the asteroid field without sight of the end of the asteroid field present. I prefer that version better. Someone with the GOUT, could you post an image of that scene from the GOUT please? My VHS tapes are fullscreen so it is hard for me to tell whether they show the end ofthe asteriod field or not.

 

no that shot has always been the same. here's the same frame from the GOUT

Janskeet said:

Adywan, I would like to donate to your cause. How do I donate?

you can donate through paypal to the email address in my signature

yes, i'm having to build a new canyon for when the 2 TIEs collide, luckily i don't have to replace the crater because i wouldn't have the room to build something that size.

funny that you mention the 365 days book because that's one of the things i have asked the wife to get me for my birthday next week.

DarthBo said:

Will you be adding some colour to the emperor's hologram then?

it will have more in common with the original emperor than the Pt in colouring

vaderios said:

So ady, what shots are you going to change with MF? only the static ones or you will use it and for some poor fly bys?

there are some fly-by shots that the falcon needs replacing.

doubleofive said:

adywan said:

corellian77 said:

BTW, how're the donations coming along?  Still in need of some monetary funds?

Well i'm in constant need of funds at the moment. i have managed to get the finemold Millennium fFalcon and a few materials for the sets but the donation fund has now dried up and there is still a lot more stuff  to get. once i have everything i need then the donations will be closed. And i have to say a huge thanks to everyone who has donated.

Awesome!  You could post a teaser picture of it!  Are you going to modify it, I read the paint job is a bit off...

yeh there is some modifications i will be doing to it. the model is unpainted so i will be matching the paintjob and details as close as humanly possible to the studio model ( thanks to the hundreds of photos from the exhibitions). i have to add all the lighting to the model to so there is a lot of work to be done.

Ganamae said:

Hello Adywan,

 

Will you be doing something to the 3 captains hologram?

there will be some slight tweaking done

corellian77 said:

BTW, how're the donations coming along?  Still in need of some monetary funds?

Well i'm in constant need of funds at the moment. i have managed to get the finemold Millennium fFalcon and a few materials for the sets but the donation fund has now dried up and there is still a lot more stuff  to get. once i have everything i need then the donations will be closed. And i have to say a huge thanks to everyone who has donated.

Jedi Dark Knight said:

All the OT Holograms are in color.....Vader in the AT-AT is bluish....but that can be an optical mistake ok..mmmm....I think I shot myself in the foot there didn't I? I had forgotten....then why did you say "The holograms in the PT are going to be downgraded and visually match the OT" when they are clearly already downgraded as in all bluish while in the OT as you so graphically showed are in color? did you mean like the clear-cut-edge, resolution, clarity or something like that?

well the way the holograms were done in the OT was that they filmed the actors against the bluescreen then played that footage on a colour CRT TV which gave the hologram effect. Now for the Pt they used a computer to add the holo FX which gave them a better quality and more modern feel. so for the Pt i will be going back to the original process to redo the holograms so they have that OT feel

Jedi Dark Knight said:

Tobar said:

Luke's hologram in ROTJ is in color as are the holochess game pieces in ANH and the attack plans on the Deathstar II. The general theme is that all communication holograms are in blue while prerecorded ones are in color. Which is why it has always annoyed me that the attack plans in TPM for the palace are all blue with a single red line.

 

 You are so right! Luke's is in color too, so...if it's a retrieved file is in color, and all real-time comm is bluish? makes sense, real-time comm is much more demanding of network resources than retrieving a pre-saved file hehe. The plans for the palace you are referring to are the blueprints of the structure, maybe they wanted to reinforce the idea that they are blueprints not holo-photos from the palace, and hence generated from an architectural file which are usually monochrome, the red line is the route she is showing. Not to be annoyed by that.

actually all of the holograms in the OT are colour.

rcb said:

trailer in two wks!!! :) i think since ur running out of ideas, u should just skip next wk and leave us freaking out to see the trailer. btw, how long do u expect it to be?

The trailer is going to be approx 2 1/2 minutes in length