adywan

Ripplin said:

adywan said:

I don't see the bombs as being destructive at all. ... I believe that they are just very low yield bombs, maybe just flash bombs,  that are only meant to draw the falcon out.

That's exactly how I've always seen it. Flushing them out, not burying them.

Oh, any chance you could do a quick scan of that Red Squadron Y-Wing pic you mentioned? ;)

 

ImperialFighter said:

corellian77,  I hadn't seen that interesting top shot of production art before.  Nice one.

Adywan, while I'd seen the 'prototype' miniature shots over the years, I'd also never seen the actual 'Falcon/Tantive lV' miniature shot you showed in your last post.  It's always neat to see rare behind-the-scenes photos of the Original Trilogy filming miniatures.

It was especially neat to clearly see where exactly it's retractable 'landing struts' were situated.

 

i scanned it from a great book i got from Birmingham last week for £2. It was a Star Wars special of Sci-fi & fantasy modeller. It has some great BTS pics of the ships in many stages of production. many of the pics i have never seen before including a Red Squadron Y-Wing.

TK99 said:

I was wondering after seeing your change of the Vectored graphic of the Death Star plans. Are you going to add graphic inserts on those glass panels that everyone is looking through in the control room?

Another is adding glow effects on the AT-AT's armor after the ground turrets fire on them and have them last a few seconds or show damage.

I don't know how difficult that would be or do think it would make them too busy and distracting, because I understand (ironically from the SG1 dvd's) that less is more and you don't want to go overboard. Adding too much and making it too difficult to concentrate on the scene.

Oh and you use the DVD's and not the 720P versions that are about the net right or do you uprate them?

there will be some subtle additions to the glass panels in the Hoth control room. I don't think they needed the additions in ANH:R because the yaving control room seemed a lot more low tech than the Hoth one.

i don't think that the AT-AT's need any form of glow added when the lasers hit. The armour is very strong and a glow would indicate that the armour is hot, which would be a weakness. The blast marks that are left is all that needs to be there.

i used the DVD for ANH:R because the HD versions weren't available back then. For the rest of the saga i am using the German HDTV 1080p versions, downscaling to 720p. Even downscaled to DVD res there is still more detail than in the official DVD's

BarBar Jinkx said:

ady would you consider chopping the ships out of those pics & have them flying about in the background (escaping Bespin, or in the reble fleet etc) ?

i'm building a few small ships to add to the end rebel fleet to replace many of the ships, especially the cut & paste ones in the last shot.

vaderios said:

Ady:

Sure you are going to do something for that :D

I hope always with some more modern panels for the snow speeders.

 

Also i dont know if you noticed some jerky dusty edges in some particular scenes like this.

The most safe way to eliminate them is to zoom a bit...

-Angel

unfortunately i won't be able to do anything like that for the exterior in those top shots. The ground is moving very fast and i would have to build a very long set to replace it in order to have new AT-At's . but the displays will be having a tweak.

as for the feathery edges, this appears on many movies but the overscan on TV's eliminates this. yes, you will see it on a HDTV that does 1:1 pixel mapping but this doesn't bother me.

vaderios said:

Speaking of destruction, im wondering  if a little brainstorm about what destruction  the bombers can do.

See it as a test.

I always wanted to see something like when the asteroid hits paris in armagedon here. Not something apocalyptic just the style.

From the other hand we can have some broken stones/debris combined with some molten ones in an electrified explosion.

Anyways the compositing is pretty weak in these shots(you can see bad transparency problems with tie fighters)

Assuming Ady will make the canyon at the end he can explode it to film that scene :)

Watch the C4 flyboys

 

-Angel

now this is something that i did think long and hard about and i think they got it right just as it is. I don't see the bombs as being destructive at all. Why, if they want to capture the falcon, would they use destructive weapons that would possibly cause all sorts of internal damage to the inside of the asteroid and possibly destroy the falcon in the process. I believe that they are just very low yield bombs, maybe just flash bombs,  that are only meant to draw the falcon out. more of an audible attack.

heres what i did for the deleted scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejDn6Dgh-KA

doubleofive said:

What'd you name that planet again, Ady?

Ganleigh

TK99 said:

I am wow'ed.

 

Only two little things.

 

1) I understand why you made the DSI construction world blue so as not to confuse it with Tatooine. But it looks too much like Alderaan, it would have looked better Geonosis like or Mustafar like world.

 

2) I never liked how the DS weapon destroyed Alderaan, it was too fast and felt fake. I always wanted it more in the vein of Kilrath in WC3.

 

 

1. no i didn't make the world blue so as not to confuse it with tatooine.  It was done to mirror Endor. the Death Star is being constructed above a world where there is plenty of materials needed. I really can't see why people say its too much like Alderaan when its a different colour and also why they never complain about yavin IV being so similar to Alderaan.

2. the planet is supposed to be destroyed in an instant. I made a deleted scene where the planets destructions is extended and it really lost the impact of that explosion. Its all there in Obi-Wan's lines just after the explosion so extending it in any way makes his speech redundant. "suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced". it had to be instantaneous. sometimes less is more.

if you can manage to remove all traces of the music leaving a clean dialogue and sound effects track i would be very interested in these. they would be invaluable for my edits, especially the prequels

LordVader said:

adywan said:

LordVader said:

Hey does anyone know where i can find an xvid version of Revisited? I was cleaning files from my pc and it got deleted, I was searching through torrent sites and a seeded one is hard to come by, thanks!

 

EDIT: I can get the DVD 5 & 9's, are those better quality than the xvid?

 

yes, get the DVD-9 as this is the best quality available and the finished version.

 

 is it possible to just watch it on my pc as opposed to burning a DVD? Also ady do you know where i can find the DVD-9 version, i can only get DVD-5 that previous post was a mistake.

check your PM's :)

LordVader said:

Hey does anyone know where i can find an xvid version of Revisited? I was cleaning files from my pc and it got deleted, I was searching through torrent sites and a seeded one is hard to come by, thanks!

 

EDIT: I can get the DVD 5 & 9's, are those better quality than the xvid?

yes, get the DVD-9 as this is the best quality available and the finished version.

Ripplin said:

Jedi Dark Knight said:

rcb said:

seriously? wow! that's a shocker.

Well it was similar to the Tantive IV, picture it as the tantive IV but with the falcon's cockpit...

Bleh.

 

there aren't many photos left of the original Millennium falcon filming model because it was modified and became the Tantive IV. the only ones ever seen on display have only ever been the prototype models. this has caused some people to argue that the Tantive IV was never meant to be the falcon, but luckily there were photos taken before the model was modified which proves that the falcon was indeed the Tantive IV .

i haven't hit the ignore button yet janskeet but please just take the time out to read the whole thread first.

rcb said:

 can u imagine yoda just hoping around with no expressions?

yeh. its was called AOTC & ROTS. lol

getting a bit off topic here but i just had to share this with the guys not in the UK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8vP1c3iZYc

The Golden Idol said:

Jedi Dark Knight said:

hahahaha I can't picture Yoda talking like that but funny indeed. This post office business is a real shame, it seems service only goes so far. I used to have that MF from back in the 80's, too bad it is all yello and old-looking now...it is still a great toy. Can anyone imagine how boring the ESB would've been if they had stuck with the original design?

 

 Original design of what?

the original design of the Millennium falcon was the Tantive IV

oops double post

Docta Nick said:

fishmanlee said:

Bingowings said:

I was too young to make a joke about the boastful sticker on the box :

 

 

  i dont get it

 

 Over 18 inches long...think about it

As yoda once said, "size matters not. Look at my penis. judge me by its size do you. hmm? And well you should not. for my ally is viagra, and a powerful ally it is."

Monroville said:

adywan said:

my patience, i'm afraid,  has run out. you may now become only the second person to have been put on my ignore list.

So who was the first one?  And second that on the TARDIS.  I think I'd use it to go to summer of 2010 so I could see how EMPIRE:R looks on the big screen!  <:)

 

Monroville said:

LOL!  That's what I was I was thinking ... either me or Kurgan... and as he would say: "there can be only one!"  <:)

All kidding aside, are we still going to receive screencaps once every 7 to 14 days?  If not, no problemo.... I can somewhat patiently await till (hopefully) "winter" of 2010 (wasn't there supposed to be a monolith around Jupiter by this time?  BTW, what ever happened to the space program?).

lol. no, it was some newbie idiot that became very abusive towards me via PMs and emails a while back, which started out when i shot down one of his ideas to do with the EU and then that he wasn't in the credits for ANH:R even though he didn't join until after the deadline i had set for entries into the credits . i won't mention his screenname though because that's all in the past and he's long gone and he wasn't technically on the ignore list ( because i don't think that function was available back then) its just that i blocked his emails and ignored him on the boards. .

Bingowings said:

I too wish I had a TARDIS so I could strap a HD camera to the BBC cameras and have lovely high quality footage of all the Doctor Who episodes the BBC wiped (and erase Michael Grade from history).

But this isn't the Doctor Who Revisited thread.

Watching the chappy building the model brought back memories of building the MPC kit which my dad suprised me with when I was a sickly little boy.

I must be a related to the Skywalkers because I have very little patience and you really need it to do model kits.

I almost set the house on fire burning little blast marks into the thing.

It looked good when it was finished though.

I was too young to make a joke about the boastful sticker on the box :

 

i still have that model that i built in the 80's although the guns are missing now.

well our post office is a joke nowadays. they use to do checks on every potential employee and wouldn't employ anyone with a criminal record. Now anyone can work for the post office. i know people who are some of the biggest criminals on our estate that deliver the post. And you'd be surprised how many people they employ who can't read or speak English (or even read anything for that matter).

i just wish i had a TARDIS so i could instantly jump to the weekend so i can get my hands on this baby. :)

some great news. just received an email stating that my millennium falcon was shipped on Tuesday and should be with me by the weekend. Thank god its not coming via the Post Office. lol

Bout the other Falcon, i contacted the Post office Tuesday and they got back to me today saying that they can find no trace of it and that they will only be offering £30 as compensation but to the sender and NOT me. It is then up to me to get the money from the sender. What an F'in joke.

Sevb32 said:

Ady I was curious to what you are doing for the large building behind the Falcon's Cloud city platform? TI'm talking about the tall building seen immediately before the falcon lands in the SE flythrough. It looks like that building is on the far right of your screenshots showing the Falcon on the platform. It's cool if you found a way to move it and keep the fly through.

well luckily the building behind the platform kinda looks like it could be the same level as the platform in the Se shot as it approaches the platform so for the landing shot i lowered the building so it fixed the continuity issues in all the other shots

rcb said:

i just watched fanboys. unless u like star wars, ur not gonna appreciate the humor. has a lot of classic characters from the movies.

carrie fisher is a doctor, the guy who plays lando, something reinholds, is a judge, william shatner makes an appearence with others.

the one part that made me laugh was when they meet a guy who has anakin and jar jar tatooed on his back the he says, "Yea, Jar Jar is gonna be the shit!"

not an awsome movie, but if u want a quick laugh, check it out.

i'm gutted that Fanboys isn't coming to the UK and no DVD release over here on the horizon. Luckily the writer of Fanboys, Ernie Cline, has kindly offered to send me a signed copy.

oh_riginal said:

oh_riginal said:

 Ady, I'm curious, do you have any plans to address the issues with this sequence? I hate how the size differences between the Falcon and the SD are inconsistent between shots.

yeh, i'm hoping to sort out the scale issue as best as i can

vaderios said:

Ady, Considering the snowstorm tauntaun should not cast hard shadows. Even better not at all.

Han's shadow is animated too.

i will be doing something to this shot

Sevb32 said:

Ady do you have the "Art of SW the Empire Strikes Back" book? It has blueprints of the Hoth Base. There are only three alcoves on the right side (As you are facing from the outside looking in) and four on the left side.

 

thanks for your email Sevb32. yes i do have the art of ESB. The blueprints are for the studio set. it does seem that the hangar is supposed to be a lot deeper than they were able to do on a set though. There's only one shot we see from the exterior that shows the true scale so should be an easy fix. (famous last words)

Enigmas said:

Glad to see things worked themselves out. Thanks a lot Sketchrob!

 

Though I am curious as to what sequence(s) the falcon model is actually needed for. I assume the shots in question are fairly vital to the edit, as Adywan is going through considerable trouble to aquire the material he needs for them. Ady is re-shooting the asteroid canyon scene...and what else?

not only is it needed for the new hangar set but also there are a few shots throughout the movie where the falcon needs replacing, but it will be used a lot more in ROTJ:R

EyeShotFirst said:

Ady, Could you reinsert the original "The first transport is away line" the new one sounds to much like my 9th grade science teacher. I always cringe when I hear it I do not know why.

i'll be checking all the various available mixes to use when i get to the audio stage.

Janskeet said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Watch the trailer, dude.  The entire conversation is heard, played throughout the trailer.

Are you just assuming that, or did Adywan actually confirm that? I saw the trailer but the edit doesn't come out until next year and even though he used that dalogue in the trailer, it doesn't mean it is going in the final edit.

yes i did confirm it which you would have known if you had read the thread like i suggested.

Janskeet said:

I noticed in this frame the colour suddently jumps brighter for like 2 or 3 frames and then goes back to its consistent colour tone used throughout. Adywan, I'm sure you picked this up in colour correction?

Adywan, were you going to do anything about Vader's inconsistent skin tone on the back of his head? As you can see on the right his skin is much more yellow than the left:

I found a spelling error:

1. this has already been fixed in the colour correction stage

2. nothing wrong with the skin tone at all. in fact its a lot more realistic than his skin when we see him unmasked in ROTJ

Janskeet , you have ignored every suggestion i have made to you to read the entire thread, yet you still ask questions that have been asked and fully answered many times, then question people who have bothered to read the thread when they give you the answer. peoples patience can only go so far. pointing out spelling mistakes in someone's post has sunk you to a new low. maybe you should check your own spelling before criticizing someone else's, as Ripplin pointed out. my patience, i'm afraid,  has run out. you may now become only the second person to have been put on my ignore list.

if you can't be bothered to read the thread then please don't be surprised when no none answers your questions that have already been answered.

BarBar Jinkx said:

Ady how will you be achieving the Shield generator explosion 

 

I'm pretty sure the neighbors wouldn't approve of shrapnel flying over their garden fence LOL, do you know anyone that could help out in this regard or will it all be done by Special effects

 

suddenly dreading the MF's untimely end in RotJ

it will be done through special effects. theres no way i could blow up the model

sketchrob said:

Ripplin said:

Anyway, wow, thank you to whoever helped out Adywan with getting another Falcon kit! Very quick response. :)

Yur welcome :);

didn't want to say it was you sketchrob before i asked you first. Many thanks again :)

The Golden Idol said:

So Ady, how far does the loss of the Falcon set you back? How soon do you think you'll be able to get another one?

 Also, how are the other models, like the Wampa puppet, coming?

it's ok it all sorted now, thanks to a certain member of these boards ( i won't say who just in case they want to remain anonymous). A new falcon has been ordered from overseas so should be here in a couple of weeks

I'm starting to build the Wampa in the week. I've finalised the design i want and have been working out how to build the frame and articulation along with just how much of the Wampa i need to build. I may be posting some short "making of" video blogs as things progress

onto another note. i noticed something when i was planning out the model for the Hoth hangar as you can see here:

the hangar in the last shot needs to be extended. Looks like the new hangar model set is going to be a little bigger than i thought

ChainsawAsh said:

Deathcrow said:

 Are we sure about this? I can't believe that mplayer/ffmpeg is just imagining this up out of thin air! Where should this info come from if not somewhere from within the file? Maybe someone with more experience than me can find out more?

... and i dont want to go on the dev-mailing list  of mplayer with something trivial like this (oss devs can get kind of annoyed ;)

 

PS: ... and btw: I hate this 'visual' post writing editor. Is there a way to activate/see the usual 'code' based editing as known from other forums? ("[quote]" etc. instead of these visual blocks, which i seem to be incapable of managing ;) Or maybe i'm the only one having a hard time inserting a quote at the right point or deleting a image/quote from a block.

It's something with the pixel aspect ratio.  Almost all of Ady's clips have displayed in a stretched 1.78:1 AR in QuickTime for me on my Mac, because QuickTime tends to ignore pixel AR for AVI files and display them as square pixels.  My solution is to play them in VLC, which works beautifully, but since I hate VLC's interface, I re-encoded the trailer to h.264 MP4, which QuickTime displays properly, using HandBrake.  That's the one I uploaded to YouTube, as well.

thats really strange because it plays in the correct aspect ratio for me in quicktime. i wonder if its a problems with cross platform xvid?

Sevb32 said:

Well Is there an alternative? What can we do? How much money exactly did you lose? What about the "He was in the hospital" story? Does it coincide with the date of the item being sent?

i lost just over £200. to be fair to the seller all the proof he provided does indeed seem to genuine. paypal informed me that he provided receipts for al model he posted on the same date as mine, which everyone has received some time ago and he also provided proof that he had indeed been in hospital form the 2nd may (i purchased the model on the 3rd) to the 9th and posted the item first class on the 12th. he said he hadn't replied to me emails because he was waiting to hear back from the post office so he could give me a better idea of what had happened to the model. If only he had paid the extra few quid then all this wouldn't have been a problem.

Deathcrow said:

adywan said:

there has to be something conflicting with the header on your system. could be a codec issue as mentioned. you can use MediaInfo to check all the details of video file. here's a screenshot of the info for the trailer:

as you can see the header is correct.

 Are we sure about this? I can't believe that mplayer/ffmpeg is just imagining this up out of thin air! Where should this info come from if not somewhere from within the file? Maybe someone with more experience than me can find out more?

... and i dont want to go on the dev-mailing list  of mplayer with something trivial like this (oss devs can get kind of annoyed ;)

It seems others have problems with xvids and mplayer

here's a bit of information i found

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/how-to-add-the-correct-aspect-ratio-flag-in-an-avi-file-t318488.html

interesting to note about the later XVID codecs supporting AR. try updating to the latest XVID codec to see if that fixes the problem because all of my Vids are encoded with the latest version of koepi's Xvid codec v 1.2.1

DarthBo said:

vbangle said:

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but isn't 1280x544 2.35:1? Sure looks that way to me.

It looks like your "mplayer" is even reporting the correct file info....must be a problem with the linux version of mplayer.

There's nothing wrong with mplayer (ffmpeg). And yes, it should be 2.35:1, that's the whole problem.

The header claims that the video is 16:9 (1.78:1), but it's not.

Gstreamer also respects the header btw. It's not very hard to just force it to use the correct a/r, but yeah, it'd be nice if the headers were correct ;-)

there has to be something conflicting with the header on your system. could be a codec issue as mentioned. you can use MediaInfo to check all the details of video file. here's a screenshot of the info for the trailer:

as you can see the header is correct.

vaderios said:

Crap! You got me there ;) haha

Edit: Ady do you consider to do something similar?

adywan said:

vaderios said:Edit: I just noticed that Vader's Chest lights in the scene after han is tortured, when lando and vadie are talking, aren't moving... Perhaps a ANH:R treatment?.

-Angel

check again because there is nothing wrong with them.

I dont see lights...

 

-Angel

I've already added the force glow to Obi-Wan on Hoth. I mentioned it a short while ago.

As for vaders lights i thought you meant the shot of vader in the trailer . having looked at this scene now i can see what you men. i guess they forgot to turn the lights on his chest plate for the shots in the lift.

well i have a bit of news about the Falcon, and it isn't good. Finally the seller has decided to contact me and Paypal. He said that it was posted 2 weeks ago and that the post office has mislaid it. He has sent proof of postage to Paypal and they are satisfied that he has indeed posted it and closed the claim. Now the bad news is that he sent it via uninsured mail which has really fucked me off because the post office offers almost nothing in compensation when sent uninsured. it doesn't mater how valuable the item is supposed to be all they will offer me is £30 for losing it. The seller had proof that he had contacted the post office prior to contacting me to find out where it is and they can find no trace of it. So that's it. the falcon is gone. I'm really pissed off at the seller for sending something so valuable without the postal insurance just to save a couple of pounds (which the amount in postage i paid would have more than covered this).So this has set me back a lot now.

Siliconmaster482 said:

adywan said:

still no luck with the ebay seller. Still no replies and still no model. I've now put a claim into paypal but god knows how long that is going to take. one things that i did notice though is that he no longer has any items for sale after i emailed him saying that if he didn't reply this time i was putting in a claim. people have received items that they purchased from him after i won the falcon so why the hell is he ignoring me and hasn't sent my model? maybe he's a trekkie. lol. but this has set me back a bit now

 

A true Trekkie would have better morals than that fraud. ;) Hope you can get that sorted out- was the transaction insured for $200 or $2000 (or the equivilent amounts)? And how much was the actual purchase? I had an issue with an xbox seller for $250, but as it was only insured for $200 I only got that much back.

well no insurance was offered on the postage. paypal is supposed to protect me though because it was paid through them and using a buy now. I can't understand why he's been sending out other peoples though and not mine. he didn't even have the decency to say that he had either been delayed again in posting it or that he has posted it. if he tries to make out he posted it to paypal he would have to provide proof of postage, which he should have with an item that size and cost.

It's the first time i've ever had a problem with anyone on ebay. just my luck it had to be this item. well its al in the hands of paypal now.

vaderios said:

One thing: Why you removed the blue lights in the front.

I think you remove them in the close shot too.

I d like to keep it as color variation and some life

 

Take care ;)

-Angel

there is only 2 shots in the whole movie that you see blue lights on the bridge. one is the side shot of the Avenger bridge as it collides with the other stardestroyer and the other is again the side shot, but this time the Executor, at the end when they are chasing the falcon . there are no other bridge shots of the Executor where you see it with Blue lights. actually both times it is the same matte but flipped so i wanted to change it somewhat so the two bridges have some difference, even if the flashing sequence is different in both shots.

I seriously think you need to see a therapist though Angel about your blue addiction. i wonder if you would have even mentioned the deleted lights if they were a different colour.  :)

just messin'