adywan

vaderios said:

Ady thanks for the new pic you gave us under our nose :D:D:D

You fix the basterd!

-Angel

ha ha, good spot there. couldn't resist putting in something new to see if anyone would notice it.:)

Ithilgore said:

How the hell do you work so fast, Adywan? You seem to most of the non-model stuff done already, looking at that screenshot.

It's called a lot of sleepless nights and having it seem like i'm surgically attached to my PC. lol

Ganamae said:

Oh and by the way, where can one buy these master replicas like the Falcon Ady bought?! Anyone?

thanks !

I got mine from ebay as most of the shops that had it listed were sold out. I guess getting one now is going to be very difficult as they are now out of production.

ImperialFighter said:

While that 'cameo' idea sounds fun, it's a little scary that we might end up seeing 'replacement' faces that may be more at home in the Cantina Bar for all we know!

Although the project itself should be incentive enough for anyone, that early 'behind the scenes footage' suggestion sounds a winner to me, although I like the idea of an 'unreleased' clip being a possible option sometime too.

Yeh, the cameo may be a bit too ambitious but i will only be adding the cameos in places where it won't jump out at anyone watching that is a new face or character.  If i can't do it convincingly enough then at least there will be the BTS clip which will feature a new finished clip at the end.

corellian77 said:

Ady, thanks for the update and sneak peek at the Vader shot (and thanks too to Angel for pointing it out).

A couple questions for you though:

First, could you refresh my memory... why are you doing a new Echo Base and Falcon model?  I forget what problems these were supposed to help you fix (i.e., specific shots?  Continuity issues?)

Secondly, what are the donations helping you with exactly?  I'm assuming they're going towards materials for the various physical elements you're currently constructing?

Lastly, the idea of pasting our faces into ESB:R is interesting, but I wonder if I'd even like to see my own face in it (on the one hand it would be kinda cool, but on the other it might take me out of the movie... and yet I'd be IN the movie... how ironic).  At any rate, regardless of the whole cameo thing, I wasn't aware that funds were still so desperately needed, and I'd like to contribute again.  Before I do, though, is there any "minimum" donation that makes it worthwhile?  I ask only because once the funds get changed from Canadian to British currency, I'm not sure how "usable" a donation becomes.

And please, don't ever let a lack of funds, some people's desire for a definitive release date, or simply exhaustion discourage you from finishing this edit.  I'd rather ESB:R take 20 years to complete than to have you abandon it altogether :)

Now go get some sleep man! :)

All the donations go towards materials. and . as Tesco's say here in the UK, every little helps. Things i still need to get are the camera dolly and track along with a boom & tripod. Now these aren't cheap. I don't need any of the large types just something that is big enough to do what i need but not too big that space becomes an issue. Looking around on ebay there are ones that are just silly prices and beyond what i would really need. I was going to make my own rig but i doubt now that i will be able to make one good enough for what i need. But i'm still looking at at at least £350 for the crane,dolly & track.  Plus i need to get a couple of studio green screens. Why 2? well the studio ones are only a certain width so i would have to stitch 2 together to get a screen wide enough to use.  I've just got myself a wide angle lens for the camcorder which is invaluable to be able to film shots like the asteroid canyon. the rest is all to do with building materials. Styrene, and lots of it, but this isn't cheap for the amount i'll be using. Also car body filer, and again lots of it, as this is the best filler due to its fine nature and easiness to sand for use with the modelling, then things like some extra lighting parts for the models etc.  It's going to be about £100 for the amount of body filer alone. My daughters boyfriend works for a body repair centre and may be able to get me a bulk lot at trade prices if his boss will let him, but i don't want to rely on the that just in case.  The good thing though is that most of the larger items like the dolly and rig will be reused when i get to ROTJ:R

Yes, i know its spiralled out of control a bit but all this extra work will be worth it. t is also very good practice for when i tackle ROTJ:R because there is so much more work to be done on that like replacing the Jabba's palace mattes with a real model, the rebel headquarters hangar amongst many others :)

Sevb32 said:

I was mentioning dates, never once in my last two posts did I complain.

Did i say complaining?

adywan said:

 

All you seem to do lately is whine about how long it is taking and i'm tired of it. Do you know how much of the film is actually finished? No.So how can you possibly know it won't be ready for he May release date? I want this movie done right, not have to rush it just to get it out early to keep you happy..

I was talking about your constant whining and sarcastic digs at how long it is going to take to complete. And don't try to tell me you weren't being sarcastic about that because the proof is here:

Sevb32 said:

Can't wait until this is released in 2011-2012

No one asked about release dates yet you just had to post that.  That is the type of thing i am sick of. I'm working my ass off on this edit and rarely have more than 4 hours sleep, sometimes doing about a 48 hours stint to complete a shot. Doing the model and miniature set work on this is the practice i need for when i get to ROTJ:R.  The amount of miniature replacement work for that one is a hell of a lot more than i need to do for this one.  I'm just one guy, not a studio

Anyway, lets just drop it now. :)

Ripplin said:

adywan said:

Ripplin said:

Wow, you really have finished a lot! It's neat that it shows the breakdown like that. (I'm not very familiar with video editing programs. I do wish I could find one that I could cut and paste with, though.)

What do you mean by cut and paste? What type of things do you need the editing program to do?

Well, sort of like how I use Audacity do edit audio, I'd just like to know about a program where I could remove a section and put it somewhere else or insert a new video clip, etc... Something fairly straightforward I could learn a bit with.

To be honest, I don't know why I haven't just asked Davnes or SSWR by now. Just forget to, I suppose. They do lots of nice edits and post them on YouTube. That's the sort of thing I'd like to try someday.

You can do all that with vegas

Ripplin said:

Wow, you really have finished a lot! It's neat that it shows the breakdown like that. (I'm not very familiar with video editing programs. I do wish I could find one that I could cut and paste with, though.)

What do you mean by cut and paste? What type of things do you need the editing program to do?

Siliconmaster482 said:

I just donated a bit, but not just as a result of your post, I promise. :P Hopefully it will be enough- I'm not sure what the conversion rates are at the moment. I only just obtained enough money to spare some. Good luck!

Thanks :)

Ok, just so you can all see just how much of the movie is completed here's a screenshot of my vegas workspace

As you can see hell of a lot of it is complete. It's just the lack of funds at the moment that is holding me back

Sevb32 said:

I actually don't think anything is unrealistic about the dates I posted. I doubt Adywan disagrees with them himself.

Well yes i do disagree with the dates. All you seem to do lately is whine about how long it is taking and i'm tired of it. Do you know how much of the film is actually finished? No.So how can you possibly know it won't be ready for he May release date? I want this movie done right, not have to rush it just to get it out early to keep you happy.

Yes, there are more things i need to build to replace the original mattes etc but this costs money, a lot of money in fact. I remember you stating that you were willing to donate to the fund, in fact you said you would donate a lot more if another clip was offered. Well i offered more than that last time. I offered a whole workprint copy and an exclusive clip. But guess what:- no sign of anything from you at all. I guess you were all talk and no action. So don't start moaning again about release dates when i can't possibly fund this thing completely by myself, which is what is slowing the whole process down quite considerably. If it wasn't for the kindness of the members here, this project would have probably been scrapped by now.

Actually, Ganamae, who won the workprint, came up with a great idea on what i could offer to help generate the much needed donations. So here it is:

Anyone that donates from today will have a chance to have a cameo in ESB:R. There are a limited amount of places i can insert members, but i need to go through the whole movie to determine the exact amount. So, if there are more donations than places, another draw will take place. But its probably about 20 places to give you some idea. Plus each person that donates will get to see the behind the scenes footage a MONTH before anyone else once the footage is completed.

Jaitea said:

What about the fine molds Falcon, have you started it Ady? Are you gonna do any modifications to the kit, LED lighting etc, or will you add effects post filming, thats what I'm keen to see, have you got any way to track the camera for some smooth shots?

 

J

The Falcon is going to be one of the last things i build along with the new rebel hangar. Its going to have the full lighting to match the studio model and the full size set model. I'm going to be building a camera rig so i can get the smooth motion needed

Good to have you back Darth Editous :)

DarkJedi3P0 said:

Ric Olie said:

adywan said:

I know the PT:R is a long way off but a hell of a lot of things will be changing drastically  in those films when i get to them.

*gulp*

 haha dont worry Mr Olie. you will probably be safe (:

Mr Olie may be safe but his dialogue certainly won't be. lol

Jaitea said:

I've uploaded another video this time with Ian in the picture (you don't need to tell me that some of the timing is off, but its just to see if the 'luke' works with the new footage) I mixed the audio from scratch again still using Musical Journey.... think it sounds better, sure I always say that. 

URL:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRAuVstzOv8&feature=youtube_gdata

J

Thats sounding pretty good now. I'm a long way off starting on the audio side of things but it does now seem possible to restore the "Luke Skywalker" line and return the conversation to its full original state

One things i've noticed when people have been making suggestions about the holo conversation is that some of the 2004 lines need to stay in because of what we know happened in the PT. Well You all need to eliminate the PT from your minds when making suggestions for the OT:R. I know the PT:R is a long way off but a hell of a lot of things will be changing drastically  in those films when i get to them.

Well SKY PREMIERHD have just been repeating the whole first season. Originally the first few episodes were cropped to 16:9, but now they are all at the correct 2:35:1. I'm pretty sure that the new series will be transmitted in 2:35:1 on SKY PREMIERHD. I gave up trying to watch the HD cartoon network transmission of EP1. Boy did they mess that one up

I've got the 5.1 AC3 tracks i used for the AVCHDs for ANH & ESB but ANH has a slight edit because i cut out Greedo shooting, but its only about 2 seconds missing. I don't have the original wav files though and  I haven't got around to ROTJ yet. PM me and i'l see what i can do

Has anyone tried the audio fix yet?

Things are looking a lot more promising than before. There is a lot more going on behind the scenes now than when this project was first proposed. The scanner should be up and running for some tests later in the month. As soon as i have some definite news I'll let you all know

gavin77 said:

Ady....how's the edit going? What are you working on right now? Peace.....

Well, on the modelling side of things,  i've been building the skeleton for the new Wampa puppet. The jaw was a bit tricky to get a more natural movement than was in the original puppet and make it look like a real jaw bone and not something that just pops open. The facial sculpture of the Wampa is complete and the mould has been made ready for the latex to be applied.  I've made the head section so that it can be worn by a person, although they wouldn't be able to see out of it. The puppet is going to be a head and shoulders, the same as the original, but unlike the original it is also going to feature a section of the arms. When he swings at Luke in the opening shots i want the audience to be able to see the shoulder movement and part of the arm lashing out.

On the video side of things, well what i have been working on is top secret. This is going to be something that i won't be revealing until the movie is released.

Enigmas said:

Jaitea said:

Here's the URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnsPNzdytlU

J

That's great. Really, that sounds excellent. I hope Adywan considers using this idea.

 

I did try using "Luke" from this DVD but it didn't fit quite right in the correct section. When he is playing the Emperor he has a slight croak to his voice which is missing from this footage. I might play about with it again when i come to the audio, but if it doesn't work then it will stay as "young Skywalker"

Solo and Venal, sitting in a tree.

K.i.s.s.i.n.g

;)

Come on guys, please get a room (j/k)

The thing is though that having the Emperor say "the son of Skywalker" twice is just repetition that isn't needed. The original dialogue pre-2004 worked perfectly and that is how i want to return it, even though i have to substitute "Luke Skywalker" with "young Skywalker"

couldn't resist. sorry ;)

vaderios said:

we can assume that are different rooms as we do in Executor bridge or bespin. Wise set of camera and lightning in the same set and we have our new room. Like they succed in tantive IV corridors.

You can put different graphics to the panels and you have a unique feeling.

-Angel

 

But they are supposed to be the same room. Both scenes even have the same person sitting at same control desk

doubleofive said:

I knew I should have done what you did there. Call me lazy. Still the question remains: what the heck are they peering down at?!

well he's probably trying to look down at the screen the rebel is looking at in the first shot

doubleofive said:

Here's the shot where it looks like a couple guys are trying to look out a window in the rebel control room:



Watch it in motion, the guy with the arrow is defiantly not looking at the glass, but leaning forward to look through it and down.  The problem with putting a window there is the lighting, unless the window just happens to be in shadow in the outside shot.

The problem with putting a window there isn't just with the lighting but it is also part of the command centre that we see earlier on in the movie. So changing any part of the set would throw in a big continuity issue.

Darth Venal said:

DarthBo:

the source material is 1080p

Is it? I wasn't aware there had been any broadcasts of the SW movies above 1080i.

And I know for a fact Sky HD have never shown any movies in 1080p.

The German PremierHD Star Wars saga were all transmitted in 1080p

The fix is going up in a.b.starwars now. The rar file includes the new audio track along with full instructions and the free programs needed. It is very simple so don't panic.:)

The new audio is finished and i'm just writing up directions on how to fix t. Its a really simple fix and you can replace the audio without losing anything off the disc

Rhikter said:

Tobar said:

Well I know Kyle Newman the director of Fanboys is a fan of Revisited and he sent a copy to Dave Filoni...

Did you read this in an article/interview/forum thread/etc?  If so, can you provide a link?

Kyle Newman spoke about how much he liked ANH:R in an interview. He is also following me on Twitter and he has said that he is excited for ESB:R. I've also been contacted by the writer of Fanboys, Ernie Cline, who kindly sent me a copy of Fanboys along with a copy of the rough 2006 cut of the movie.

GoodMusician said:

 

It occurs to me now that an isolated score could very easily be taken from the Ultimate Edition... sad face... lol

 

Would you CONSIDER a correct isolated score :-p??

yes, the isolated score was taken from the Ultimate edition.  I'm not going to do another version of the isolated score as i don't want to spend any more time on this project because of all the other things i have going on at the moment.

I've recaptured the audio but there are a few drop-outs due to disc rot that need patching up, so will take a bit of time to fix but i  will hopefully post the audio fix and full instructions by the weekend if all goes well :)