adywan

rpvee said:

1. Ady made a Yoda puppet?

2. Ady, what is it with you and these "it's split second so it doesn't matter" things? The reflection, the floor... it shouldn't matter how short it is, heck that should mean it's easier to fix because it's not a long shot.  You went through ANH and fixed every little thing to make it THE version of the film.  Why not the same for ESB?

But i have proved that there should be no reflections. And i didn't fix every little thing in ANH. There were many things that i left alone because they were insignificant or too quick to even notice

And, no, i haven't made a Yoda puppet

Monroville said:

Also, in regards to this shot:



Are the X-wing engines going to be redder to match their appearance in ANH?  BTW, I like how the foreground clouds are bluer (or whiter) than the original image, which makes them match up with the background clouds a lot better now.

Rpvee: I know where you're coming from, but also remember who is doing the work (FOR FREE).  I can deal with things like Needa's really bright SD if it means getting an overall perfected EMPIRE in 720p.

Ady: while I still think Needa's SD could be darkened (even if the main hull was darkened to 50% of the dark side of the escort SD by the Executor), I will say that it still looks quite a bit better and less "modelly" than it did in the GOUT.

I can assure you the engines are red in that shot.

And as for the stardestroyer, many of the clips & screenshots i have posted are unfinished as i don't want to post fully completed ones all the time because it will spoil the first viewing of the film a bit if you have seen everything

Even this shot from a render done over a month ago isn't finished yet.

The small stardestroyer has yet to be replaced with a better version. The clip i posted hadn't had any of the colouring tweaks done to the stardestroyer and was from a quick test render to see the flight plan of the new shuttle, which has since been replaced by a different shuttle as you may be able to tell from the new shot. And yet again imageshack has messed with the colours. The superstardestroyer is supposed to be the same colour and brightness it is in the older shot, but it looks different in this one

vaderios said:

(not the grid light thing)

Well i said grid, i meant grill lol :P

Near the grill then :) I think the floor bends a bit.

 

-Angel

Sorry, i misread it. yeh looks like it moves a tiny little bit, but its so quick you can't really see it. Plus it happens just as the focus on the camera changes which stretches the floor vertically so that could be making it look like it moves more than it does

vaderios said:

Thanks for the clips too :)

 

Ady: will you fix the floor when needa falls?( not the grid light thing) it looks likes wood when it should be dead stable.( like you did in dagobah's floor)

-Angel

No. there's no need to.  it's a maintenance grill which isn't as solid as a floor would be

I thought Hz was a frequency that had no impact on framerate. I can drop a PCM audio track down to a really low Hz and it won't affect the sync

rpvee said:

Then what's lighting up the Star Destroyer's bottom?

Maybe it's a binary system. lol ;(

vaderios said:

I see bright star destroyer. Will you replace it with the shadow concept one?

-Angel

No i won't be. Just tracking all the mattes needed for shadow changes and adding tracking lights would be a nightmare, plus i think it better bright as that's is the focal point. In the darker concept the stardestroyer kinda got lost a bit

doubleofive said:

Is that new shuttle a little on the small side?  Or was Vader's shuttle in RotJ too big?

I'll try to get some comparisons together.

It's the correct scale. Just look at the size of the docking bay compared to the shuttle. Plus in ROTJ the shuttle came out of the front smaller bay not the main one

And, yes, the scale is wrong in ROTJ. It would never have fit in any of the docking bays

vaderios said:

How i can see them without the facebook login crap?

Edit: ARG!!!!!!!

Now i have to enlist friends who has shitbook to sent me the videos.

 

-Anger

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Didn't you have to register to use these forums? Why is facebook any different?

I'm doing the best i can with the new restrictions my ISP imposed upon its users this weekend. Maybe i shouldn't have bothered

Ziz said:

And what about making it available somewhere for those of us that aren't into all this FaceSpaceMyBook crap?

I prefer upping them to facebook now because of the quality and i'm fed up with all the ads for the music tracks popping up everytime i watch a video on Youtube and it always screws up the aspect ratio if the video has been cropped. Plus my bloody ISP has started throttling Rapidshare and other uploading sites so it would take me hours to upload to rapidshare now instead of minutes

Here's all the videos including the Yoda one and a couple of new additions:)

Videos

RoccondilRinon said:

No, this was when the video was still there, but it was like it was only showing every few frames.

It might have been that you were trying to view the video just as i was deleting it

RoccondilRinon said:

I tried watching it but it was like 10 frames a second - which meant there was no way to see any of the lipsyncing or anything. Any chance you could upload it through the usual channels as well?

I accidentally deleted the video when editing the info so i'm re-uploading it now. Facebook is actually a lot better quality than YouTube so i will be uploading all videos to there from now on.

It should be available shortly.

doubleofive said:

adywan said:

New Vid :)

Meeting Yoda

Fantastic tweaks, love the blink and "yOda".  However, you can still see through the crack under R2's head, just to be the nitpicker I am (which is nothing compared to some around here....)

Thanks for sharing, love that you've gone back on your "no more previews EVER!" ;-)

I'm not bothered about seeing some light underneath the dome. he is a robot after all :) Now if you could see Kenny Baker then that would be a different matter

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Excellent! I love that Yoda actually takes a BITE of the food! :D

Is Frank Oz's head gone now? It's hard to tell from the video...

Very very cool!

Yes, his head has now gone

New Vids :)

Facebook Vids

Are the videos you are working with interlaced? It sounds a lot like an interlacing issue to me.

This is very strange indeed. You mentioned to me that you ripped the AC3 from my ESB AVCHD and it synced up perfectly to your video. Well i didn't have to change the speed of the audio to sync with the video so it is the same speed and pitch that it was ripped from the laserdisc

If you have sony vegas you could try loading your video and the downconverted wav files into that to see if they sync that way

You're not joining the 3 AC3 files together and trying to sync the whole file that way are you?

ImperialFighter said:

Also still wondering if there would be any saber 'reflection' seen in that shot where Luke has his back nearest to the window, or not?

No. If you look at the right side of the frame in that shot you can see the reflection of lukes legs come into frame but not enough that you would see any of the saber at all

sans_fi said:

vaderios said:

Not it wasnt :P

You harly see the reflection but its there.(ady will say: all these will be downgraded when the PT:R comes)

Besides the perspective in ESB is a bit weird so the reflection is not all the time in the glass. Vader is overlap most of the glass area too.(Ady will say: No need to add any reflection, the focus in on the characters and too much work.) :P

 

-Angel

 There ARE lots of digital lights and reflections on the prequels that feel distracting. Like the lightsaber light on yoda's face and clothes (when the lightsaber doesnt light anybody else) or the light of the blasters every time clone troopers shoot. All those things made them look more CG than real.

Thats why im against lightning any real character or surface with the lightsaber (unless it MEANS something or the light is there for a dramatic reason)

If you notice the reflection in that shot. it's amazing that he lightsaber can reflect through Anakin's body so you can see the whole saber blade on the window when you should only see half that length.

vaderios said:

Well, i've  just looked at the whole sequence and that is the only shot where you may even see a reflection from the sabers. But upon a closer inspection the most you may even see would be the tip of Vader's blade.

I like that i chose the frame that it shows the reflection and ady chose the one that isnt. anyways whatever :P

Well actually Angel, i chose the frame where Luke's position is the furthest back which shows more of the reflection and is the only frame where the tip of the sabre may have been visible. Also it is only 2 frames after your pic.  In your frame there is no chance there would be any reflection from the sabers.

rpvee said:

mrbenja0618 said:

But is that really a fix? Or is it Ady pleasing the fans? I think Ady's right in this case... It's not needed.

 If there should logically be a reflection there when there isn't one, no matter how small, then yes, it would indeed be a fix.

So should i add just the smallest tip of Vaders lightsaber to just 1 frame? Because thats the sum total of frames where you may even see it

Well, i've  just looked at the whole sequence and that is the only shot where you may even see a reflection from the sabers. But upon a closer inspection the most you may even see would be the tip of Vader's blade. Here's a very quick sketch of the reflection

As you can see, Lukes stance is leaning forward and tracing the line of the leg that we can see , the line of the floor light and his other foot which is off the side of the floor light there is no way you would see Luke's blade at all. So, is it worth adding just the tip, even though you may not even see it anyway? I don't think it's worth it

Monroville said:

I hope Ady takes this into consideration: that first shot (or second in this case) when the probot first comes out always looked really fake, and the flames in this case could hide the fakiness a little better - though I could see the flames dying out as the shot progressed or being toned down a little.

Overall, everything about this mock-up is better: I love how you can see the hill behind the flames; how the mountains stand out from the sky; even the HAL eye I think works really well and would give it some life (not to mention a droidish connection to R2).  For that matter, how would the probot look to have a few more lights on it ala R2 (I know it is for infiltration and all, but anything to give it some life and take it away from looking like a model could be good).

How would it be to add a slight audio echo to the levitation noises it makes to excentuate the open air environment it is in when leaving the crater?  You know, don't forget the audio things you can do for enhancement too!

No, I won't be considering it. The flames are overkill IMHO. You also wouldn't see the mountain range like that behind all the smoke because the angle is all wrong. You would only see the bottom part of the mountain and not a ridge line. If you looks at the shot where it rises out of the crater you can actually see hints of the mountain anyway so there is no need for any changes there. Also the Hal light i don't like either. I prefer the yellow/ orange one it has now. Everything always seems to have a red or blue light nowadays so having the orange one is a nice change. And the shadows on the mountains are grey where they should be more blue

dark_jedi said:

So does anyone know for certain if the GKar set,the Look SE set,and the 5 Star Collection are legit LD 5.1 rips?or just crappy upmixes?

Thanks

I know that the GKar and the 5 star collection sets are upmixes. I don't know about the Look SE set though, but if its the audio of the SE i was sent before getting the laserdiscs then that is an upmix too

I sent out a disc with all the SE laserdisc 5.1 rips to SkyJedi weeks ago but it looks like its got lost because of our bloody postal strikes. I'm going to upload the 5.1 audio to usenet later next week if anyones interested

brash_stryker said:

 

Off topic, but amusing, I've seen you've joined the facebook group concerning me, Ady. Don't I look nice in drag? :P

maybe a bit to good. lol ;)

ImperialFighter said:

Nice extra effort on Luke's saber, Adywan.

Cool mock-up there vaderios, but I think the added SE flames have just been removed now.

I always thought that a bit of that 'casing' seen around the rim in the 'close-up' should be seen in the wide shot also though.

Yes, i removed the SE flames and added some debris. I don't think there should be any flames, especially the amount in Angels mock-up, however great it looks. If there is that amount of accelerant in the probes pod to make that amount of fire on snow then surely it wouldn't have just produced a huge plume of vapour / snow. It would have exploded. And wouldn't that have damaged the probe in some way?The deep impact in the snow put out the flames from its atmospheric entry

Plus i think the shot of the probe emerging from the smoke  is a perfect reveal. Very eerie. Fire would just ruin that

Thanks for the photoshop DVD cover action Sky_ :)

Is this better?

Again uploading the pic has changed the colours :(

My favourite special effect has to be the snowspeeder search  in ESB. Although it isn't much of a "special effect" because its just a cockpit shot against bluescreen and added to live footage of the mountain range, this one scene really made me feel like i was in the movie when watching it on the big screen in 1980. It gave the same feeling that was present in the film "roller-coaster". I almost felt like i was flying in the snowspeeder over the mountain range. It's a feeling i will never forget, but never got that feeling when watching it again on the big screen in later life though