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#1503808
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, & Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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StarkillerAG said:

Evangelion is an incredibly overrated anime. I used to be a big fan, but now it just seems like a mess of half-assed ideas and inconsistent tone that thinks it’s way smarter than it actually is. It would be a genuinely great series if they just made 3 changes: flesh out the background lore and side characters, tone down the awful humor and creepy sex appeal in the early parts of the series, and replace the pretentious esoteric monologues with more of a “show don’t tell” approach to exposition. But in its current state, I wouldn’t call it a “cinematic classic” like everyone else does.

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#1493641
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Did G. Lucas ever intend to portray the Jedi as a flawed institution in the prequels? Or was it added later in the EU?
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cap said:

act on instinct said:

SparkySywer said:

act on instinct said:

There’s enough evidence for me that it was intentional, Lucas is fascinated by the fall of Rome and what happens to societies preceding their collapse.

There’s some quote by Lucas comparing the fall of the Republic to the fall of the Roman Republic (comparing Palpatine to Caesar), and he comments that dictators don’t come to power at the head of a conquering army, but by turning institutions in on themselves.

So this guy’s fascinated enough by the fall of the Roman Republic to base a trilogy off of it, but not enough to know that Caesar actually did come at the head of a conquering army? The Senate gave him dictatorial powers after he conquered Rome, and it was an attempt to limit his power, not to give him power.

Palpatine also seized power through a coup via order 66, and with an army he created. I’m not sure I see the contradiction.

I’m not sure that even counts as a coup. The Senate approved these of the Clone army, and I’ve always been under the impression (though it’s admittedly not established canonically) that the “emergency powers” they gave him authorized him to order the targeted killing of enemies of the Empire.

It’s a coup because it’s a violent military sabotage, there wasn’t a plot by the Jedi to overthrow the Republic, the Senate is only complicit based on lies.

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#1489251
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Did G. Lucas ever intend to portray the Jedi as a flawed institution in the prequels? Or was it added later in the EU?
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Servii said:

I agree with what SparkySywer said above.

I get what George is trying to say about attachment, but it bugs me that he considers emotional connection to your own mother, or simply the act of falling in love with someone, as something problematic. Anakin falling for Padme is portrayed as a dangerous thing, like it’s a “sin,” but Anakin’s behavior towards Padme doesn’t become overtly possessive until RotS. It’s hard to gauge what Lucas considers to be crossing the line from “good” love to “bad/possessive” love. And we don’t really see much of the Jedi showing that compassionate love to people. And maybe that was intentional, but I don’t think it was.

I understand the resistance to the ideas about attachments but that’s really something to take up with Buddhism/Hinduism more than Lucas who is being a pretty loyal messenger to the eastern view on such things, rather than misinterpreting or inventing.

From the Bhagavad Gita, I’m sure it will sound familiar:
https://panindiahindu.wordpress.com/2017/05/17/love-vs-attachment-in-the-context-of-gita/

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#1487987
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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DrDre said:

The whole scene makes very little sense. It would be much more logical for Reva to present herself as a friendly face, and a representative of the Empire put in charge of bringing Leia to the safety of her parents, in hopes of getting at least some information. All Leia knows is, that she was taken by some pirates, and then apparently rescued by a former Jedi, who themselves are wanted criminals. There’s no subtlety in Reva’s character. She’s just a one note villain, who’s inept at interrogating a little kid, fails to recognize her innate Force ability (which is her job), and wants to torture her for information, she likely doesn’t have. Presenting a friendly face would make the Reva character more interesting, and competent, being able to do more than just yell and scowl.

Glad to see this, that moment also stuck out to me as really Disney-fied like they’re playing to the kids out there who see themselves in little Leia. That’s fun in an interactive theme park setting and ultimately Star Wars is for the kids more than the adults, but for a serious scene the more intense the interrogation got the sillier it was. If Reva handled the situation like you suggested (which is how real interrogations typically go) the whole scene would improve, Reva would have more dimension as a calculated villain instead of her usual one note, and Leia by rejecting her manipulation would reinforce her inner wisdom and even call back her skepticism of Kenobi in episode 2. I get it, the inquisitors are ruthless and it’s sort of been established that force mind reading is Reva’s thing, but in the wrong scene with the wrong character it can (and in my opinion did) go over the top and feel even cheesier than all the last minute saves.

Reva better break out that backstory soon and it better be worth it, right now the more she tries to act scary the less intimidating she gets, the character is becoming a cartoon.

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#1487944
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Anyone notice the camera shake during the briefing scene being especially excessive? During the wide it looked like it was filmed on a boat, the angle almost falls over. I can accept why it’s used for action scenes but much like all the long walks the overkill makes it stand out even more as a crutch to create artificial drama.

I was ready to say this was one of the higher quality episodes visually before it was over, at least an underwater base is more inventive than any of the settings so far, but by the end it falls apart. Again we have another hallway fight but I’ll take it over the fakey landing platform. The torture room also stood out, not as fake just sort of strangely large with no purpose, it felt like they were compensating for the usual smaller sets.

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#1487701
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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yotsuya said:

I am still baffled that anyone thinks this show is poorly done. It is a hit with fans in general and the only reason it will never be as popular as The Mandalorian is that it doesn’t have Baby Yoda (possibly the single most popular character in all of Star Wars). But the production quality of all of them are top notch. I can’t see any issue with the set, costumes, acting, anything.

You gotta stop feeling so baffled by now, maybe you don’t see it but more than a few do. I’m actually pretty surprised myself, I thought I’d be the only one complaining about things like production and camera work but to see it so widely as a criticism even from those still otherwise enjoying the show speaks to at least some credibility. The sets don’t literally have to be falling over to be beneath the standard fans hoped for from such a high profile mini series.

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#1487594
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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RogueLeader said:

And you’re right about the Mandalorian. I went back and watched a clip from Season 2 and immediately noticed how the blocking looked so much more artistic/professional in comparison to what we’ve generally seen in Kenobi. (…) I don’t know if it is just because Favreau/Howard/Filoni and their crew have a better understanding of the Volume than the other creatives have.

This was what I was warning about when people specifically kept repeating they had more faith in Chow vs Favreau/Filoni based on their previous work, maybe you may personally like one over the other but Favreau was the one to introduce the concept of the Volume to Kathleen Kennedy in the first place, Chow was walking into the sandbox they built, the outcome really makes plenty sense.

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#1486889
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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An example of cheap I would give is when Vader is walking through that residential street and there’s a close up on his boots in a tracking shot with no footprints on the dirt road where he’s stepping as he’s surrounded by civilians, it’s not a deal breaker but there are little things all over the place (and little sets) that add up.

If you aren’t bothered by the television standard more power to you, but remember this is what we’re getting instead of a movie, it’s not as win-win/more is more as some may have anticipated. Personally I don’t think the quality to quantity trade off paid off. Of course I say that but if the writing was a home run I wouldn’t even care.

(I did think episode 3 was the best so far relatively speaking.)

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#1486822
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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I think some people who had set their hopes especially high are slowly realizing they may have put too much faith in Deborah Chow, I think if this show doesn’t pull it together in the end she’ll have the Star Wars stink on her that Rian had and people will unfairly judge her abilities after pinning their hopes on her up to release. Some fans forgot they were still dealing with Disney here, the director is the patsy to blame for the studio’s continued failures.

(Glad for any of you enjoying the series so far though.)

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#1483739
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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I think as with Boba Fett and Solo expectations are going to be higher vs a wholly new thing because fans have enough of a reference point to see the narrative potential with these legacy characters, its relationship as a continuation invites comparison. Returns may always diminish but I fear Kenobi might be destined for mediocrity for the same reason it could have been great, it’s such a big deal and Disney is so afraid of fumbling they’ll never be willing to rock the boat enough to let something interesting happen, it’s a crowd pleasing deadlock, hope I’m proven wrong and Star Wars can still surprise.

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#1482980
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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I’m a big Better Call Saul fan myself and I have faith in Deborah Chow, but these SW projects have their own challenges and the visuals demand so much already. From what I’ve seen so far I am actually disappointed that even for a shorter length series it still carries more of a television feel than cinematic, they might be pulling their punches and each part will have some wow factor at least once per episode, but production value wise I’m not sure in the end if I wouldn’t have preferred a movie. Maybe I’m setting standards too high, it’s difficult enough for any show to achieve and maintain theatrical quality polish, in the case of an action packed sci-fi fantasy I think we might have already seen Disney hit the ceiling of what they can accomplish in live action, director aside.

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#1444632
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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sade1212 said:

I’ve been messing with the big reveal scene a little using dialogue from elsewhere in the movie and I’ve got this so far. It’s not really working as a cohesive whole but I think there’s a few bits here that could have promise.

  • I removed the actual reveal and just have Kylo poke at her insecurity re: the dark side, but Rey’s reaction and the music seem a little over-the-top for that. I did this because I intend to experiment a little with moving the lineage reveal to the previous Rey/Kylo scene but that’s probably a dead end. “Who you are… The dark side.” doesn’t really make any sense.
  • I removed Rey’s defiant “I do.” from the end in order to leave it a little more open-ended as to whether she’s actually tempted by Kylo’s offer to team-up to kill Palps or not.
  • I’ve tried to have Kylo suggest the dyad is something to do with them both being dark-siders or emotionally damaged or whatever. One of my aims with everything I’m experimenting with is to disassociate Rey’s dark-side fears from her lineage and associate them more with Kylo Ren, as I think that would better follow up TLJ and avoid rehashing ROTJ so much. I had to trim out the ‘what Palpatine doesn’t know…’ for timing though and that does become fairly important later.

I agree Rey’s reaction might be over the top which makes you feel the mismatch, really shows on her face she’s having a revelation. Could it be moved around to have that be her response to the Dyad? Her eyes could go wide when Kylo explains they are “two that are one.”

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#1441273
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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You are approaching the internet like a giant hivemind with no regard for how members here actually feel, it’s like you were chilling in the city and now this is a neighborhood where people have a basic familiarity with each other and their views on the movies. There are plenty of threads for discussion and you’re welcome to add your two cents where it’s more relevant, instead of imposing your opinion onto the rest of the board, you’ve even copied and pasted some things you’ve written across multiple threads within the same day, it’s just not that big around here, and it reads dismissive to the rest of the community, at worst like you’re talking down to them.

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#1441102
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Star Wars: Serialized (WiP)
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Great stuff, love the recontextualization, how set in stone are these figurative fight sequences? I love the black and white maybe Kylo’s face could be brighter while still remaining ominous. These kind of edits excite me the most I’ve already wanted to see a silent PT and the potential of an epic 9-in-1, I would love a PM to any latest workprint when it’s ready, are the chapters going to be in sequence or will there be jumping between eras?