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#1330524
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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Star Wars Original Trilogy 2004 DVD Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga6UsDJ6Vz4 - from the James Jacob YouTube channel (4 mins long)

This DVD set was the first release of the Original trilogy on DVD. The set included:
Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope SE (widescreen, fullscreen)
Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back SE (widescreen, fullscreen)
Star Wars: Episode VI Return of the Jedi SE (widescreen, fullscreen)
Documentary and Featurettes:
Empire of Dreams: The story of the Star Wars Trilogy
The Characters of Star Wars
The Birth of the Lightsaber
The Force Is with Them: The Legacy of Star Wars
Trailers and TV Spots
Battlefront Xbox demo and Still Galleries
Episode III Preview

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#1330501
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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LexX said:

ray_afraid said:

LexX said:

V.I.N.Cent said:

LexX said:

Why do these need to be posted separately? Would be easier to have them in the first post. Or just make a Youtube playlist out of them.

I haven’t posted many videos of late, but how would I go about editing the first post (in a thread I didn’t create) to include or update videos?

You obiviously can’t, but the thread creator can

Yeah, ZkinandBonez. Get on it. Did you not realize that creating a new thread is akin to taking on an extra part-time job?
Geeze, man.
/S

Are you saying that the thread creator can’t edit his first post or are you just being an asshole? I was responding to the question and it is the truth. What is your problem again?

Can we please not start an argument here. I get what you’re saying LexX, but this is how I’ve decided to run these threads and most people seem fine with it, so take it or leave it. I’ve added an in-progress index to the first post so that you can navigate through all the various posts easier than just scrolling through every page (once we get to multiple pages that is).

Now I’d appreciate if we could all get back on track in order to stop cluttering the thread with this discussion and focus on sharing and discussing trailers and promos instead.

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#1330468
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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LexX said:

V.I.N.Cent said:

LexX said:

Why do these need to be posted separately? Would be easier to have them in the first post. Or just make a Youtube playlist out of them.

I haven’t posted many videos of late, but how would I go about editing the first post (in a thread I didn’t create) to include or update videos?

You obiviously can’t, but the thread creator can as the first post is edited anyways to include all the posted trailers. That was just my opinion on usability from doing several video searches and chronological lists for a few years.

I’ve added an index that links to all the posted videos in the first post. Isn’t that essentially the same as what you’re suggesting?

Maybe one day I’ll make an index that’s organized into groups based on which movie or which media the trailer is from, and I’ve already tried to make the list clear and easy to read through. Beyond that it just seems needlessly complicated to me.

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#1330428
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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StarkillerAG said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Not to be that guy, but wouldn’t Star Wars be the “soft” sci-fi in contrast to the “hard” science-fiction of Star Trek?

Both are soft. Once you look past the technobabble, Star Trek has almost no scientific accuracy. Hard sci-fi, at least in my definition, is stuff that has at least the scientific accuracy of the movie Interstellar. That movie is the bar that separates “hard” from “soft” for me.

You’re absolutely right. What stood out to me though was the reference to ST as “soft” in comparison to SW. If only SW and ST were relevant then I’d label ST as hard sci-fi, but in general, yes, ST takes far too many creative liberties to be considered anything but soft sci-fi.

Someone really need to coin a proper and catchy term for space fantasy so that us fans can finally start to distinguish SW from the rest of sci-fi and fantasy.

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#1330345
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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I knew Lucas used a lot of temp music for ANH, but I didn’t know he actually considered using it for the finished film. Makes sense though, that’s basically what happened to 2001: A Space Odyssey, and it worked really well there. It’d be quite interesting to see that version of ANH. Wonder if it exists somewhere in the Lucasfilm archives. Either way, it’s pretty fascinating to see any official SW material using classical music like this trailer. I’m also guessing that the 1976 teaser was made before Williams started scoring the movie? The tagline seems to have been part of the movie at that time, so I wonder if the same piece of music was also in the actual film at some point.

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#1330253
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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The Empire Strikes Back - 1979 “Vivaldi” Teaser Trailer [35mm]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CroqdjDv82s&t - from the SpaceHunterM YouTube channel (1:30 mins long)

Now this one’s a bit of an oddity. First of all it’s clearly imitating the 1976 Teaser Trailer (same music and the narration is very similar), which I find really strange because I can’t imagine a lot of people would have understood that reference/call-back in the pre-internet age. So at first I thought this was a fan trailer, but after some googling it seems that this was the 2nd official trailer released in late 1979 after the McQuarrie art teaser trailer which I posted earlier.

Overall thought, it’s a pretty moody trailer that makes a lot more sense for ESB than it did for ANH. BTW, the name comes from it’s use of Vivaldi’s “Four Seasons”, which in and of itself is pretty unique, as I can’t think of a lot of SW content that used pre-existing classical music.

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#1329951
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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LexX said:

Why do these need to be posted separately? Would be easier to have them in the first post. Or just make a Youtube playlist out of them.

It would be very hard to index them properly if they were all in the first post, or a long regular post, plus it’s not like I’m the only one who’s posted videos here (I just got a little carried away earlier today). If I find videos that are part of a “series” like f.ex. the PT Webisodes then I’d post them as a playlist. Ditto if I find smaller clips from a longer program, like the SW Oscar clips I posted on the OT docs thread. Other than that the point of these threads is to keep posting interesting videos as you find them.

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#1329918
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
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Star Wars Special Editions Press kit B-Roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLITqKDpkQM - from the TheStarWarsTrilogycom YouTube channel (6:30 mins long)

The blurb:
“Made available to the press in early 1997 around the same time that the Star Wars Special Edition trilogy was about to hit theaters, this 6 minute snippet of behind the footage shows us what “State of the art” technology looked like almost twenty years ago…”

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#1329910
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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Star Wars TV Ad 1979 #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cE8ICezoz8 - from TheStarWarsTrilogycom YouTube channel (40 sec long)

Star Wars TV Ad 1979 #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSstUdf2sk - from TheStarWarsTrilogycom YouTube channel (40 sec long)

The blurb (for both videos):
“Captured along with Saturday Morning Cartoons on ABC during the summer of 1979. Star Wars would not be available to rent or buy on Video tape until 1982 so it was enjoying another re-release in theaters that August. It’s easy to see kids jumping up from watching cartoons and urging their parents to take them to see Star Wars again…”

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#1329908
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The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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Star Wars 1982 Re-release Trailer [35mm]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4601lNCveA - from TheStarWarsTrilogycom YouTube channel (2 mins long)

The blurb:
“In August 1982 Star Wars, was re-released in cinemas across the US for a three week run. This trailer was captured from one of the actual 35mm film reels that was sent to cinemas around the country in the summer of 1982 to promote the film. The color has been restored, but the dirt and scratches have not been cleaned up. Personally I quite like the grungy, ‘film’ look - you can almost hear the projector…”

The voiceover:
“It has been 5 years since we first felt the Force, and it’s stronger than ever. There is only one way to celebrate the 5th anniversary of Star Wars; See it…Again.”

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#1329901
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
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Cheech & Chong and Return of the Jedi: 1984 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz7_UiE_VyU - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (4 mins long)

The blurb:
“Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong present a Special Achievement Award to Richard Edlund, Dennis Muren, Ken Ralston and Phil Tippett for the Visual Effects of Return of the Jedi at the 56th Academy Awards. Hosted by Johnny Carson.”

Full 1984 Oscars Playlist link

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#1329900
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
Time

The Empire Strikes Back Receives a Special Award: 1981 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mzbH3DD73M - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (4 mins long)

The blurb:
“Brian Johnson, Richard Edlund, Dennis Muren and Bruce Nicholson receive a Special Achievement Award (Visual Effects) for The Empire Strikes Back at the 53rd Academy Awards. Presented by Jack Valenti and hosted by Johnny Carson.”

The Empire Strikes Back Wins Sound: 1981 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxH7SyleqDI - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (4 mins long)

The blurb:
“Bill Varney, Steve Maslow, Gregg Landaker and Peter Sutton win the Oscar for Sound for The Empire Strikes Back at the 53rd Academy Awards. Billy Dee Williams and Bernadette Peters present the award.”

Full 1981 Oscars Playlist link

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#1329899
Topic
YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
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Special Sound Oscars for Close Encounters and Star Wars: 1978 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMAAzS4brDc - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (5 mins long)

The blurb:
“Mark Hamill, C-3PO and R2-D2 present Special Achievement awards for Sound Effects Editing to Frank E. Warner for Close Encounters of the Third Kind and to Benjamin Burtt, Jr. for the creation of the alien, creature and robot voices featured in Star Wars, at the 50th Academy Awards. Hosted by Bob Hope.”

Star Wars Wins Original Score: 1978 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJTETd_grg - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (1:30 mins long)

The blurb:
“John Williams wins the Oscar for Music (Original Score) for Star Wars at the 50th Academy Awards. Henry Mancini, Johnny Green and Olivia Newton-John present the award.”

Star Wars Wins Sound and Visual Effects: 1978 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX2QzYHG1yc - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (8 mins long)

The blurb:
“William Holden and Barbara Stanwyck present Don MacDougall, Ray West, Bob Minkler and Derek Ball with the Oscar for Sound, and Joan Fontaine presents John Stears, John Dykstra, Richard Edlund, Grant McCune and Robert Blalack with the Oscar for Visual Effects for Star Wars at the 50th Academy Awards. Hosted by Bob Hope.”

Star Wars Wins Costume Design: 1978 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLfrw7MvCcs&t - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (5 mins long)

The blurb:
“Natalie Wood presenting John Mollo with the Oscar® for Costume Design for “Star Wars” at the 50th Academy Awards in 1978.”

Star Wars Wins Film Editing: 1978 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1dW6bNBzN8 - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (2:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“Farrah Fawcett and Marcello Mastroianni present Paul Hirsch, Marcia Lucas and Richard Chew with the Oscar for Film Editing for Star Wars at the 50th Academy Awards.”

Star Wars Wins Art Direction: 1978 Oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS1KiEEXysI - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (3:40 mins long)

The blurb:
“Greer Garson and Henry Winkler present the Oscar for Art Direction to John Barry, Norman Reynolds, Leslie Dilley and Roger Christian for Star Wars at the 50th Academy Awards. Hosted by Bob Hope.”

Full 1978 Oscars Playlist link

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#1329893
Topic
The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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Revenge of the Jedi - 1982 Theatrical Teaser Trailer [35mm]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8zxWHlOHyE- from the Lego Stalin YouTube channel (1:20 mins long)

The uploader didn’t provide much more info other than that it was a 1982 teaser trailer. If you know more about it, please let me know and I’ll update this post.

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#1329892
Topic
The Original Trilogy <strong>Trailers/Promos</strong> Video Thread (YouTube/Vimeo, etc. finds)
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Revenge Of The Jedi - 1982 UK Teaser Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAW1E3JIQZE - from the official Oscars YouTube channel (35 sec long)

The blurb:
“The Academy Film Archive holds several trailers from the United States with the initial ‘Revenge’ title, most of which announcing a May 25th 1983 release date which coincided with the anniversary of the original Star Wars stateside release in 1977. However, this peculiar and very brief Revenge of the Jedi teaser trailer originated from a cinema in the United Kingdom, where the film was originally being considered for a Christmas 1983 release. This rare teaser, preserved by the Academy Film Archive, was apparently shown with the U.K.’s May 1982 double feature re-release of Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. American audiences would not get a glimpse of the third film until Star Wars was re-released in the U.S. in August 1982, meaning that this may be the earliest Revenge trailer distributed – and fans from across the pond got the first peek!”

BONUS:

The Lost & Found “Revenge” of the Jedi Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wIFQQYAKK4 - from the That Junkman YouTube channel (6 mins long)

“In 1982 a teaser trailer for Star Wars Revenge of the Jedi come to the UK and was lost and forgotten about until 2016!”

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#1329887
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The <strong>random YouTube / Vimeo etc video finds</strong> thread for the Original Trilogy
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ATMachine said:

FWIW, storyboard artist Alex Tavoularis designated his sketches of female Luke as “Luke”, without a name change.

That’s interesting. I just googled it and found this storyboard with a female Luke and according to the person who posted it its supposed to be from the 2nd draft. Makes me wonder if there exists a draft “2B” or something to that effect where its essentially the same script but with a female Luke.

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#1329883
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The <strong>random YouTube / Vimeo etc video finds</strong> thread for the Original Trilogy
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Yeah, I always assumed that “female Luke” would just have been called Leia, and that Luke would have become the younger brother or something like that. I haven’t done any “extensive” research of the early drafts, though I’ve read Rinzler’s making of book, and I’ve read the 2nd draft, most of the 4th, as well as the 1st draft comic adaptation, and as far as I know Lucas never actually wrote anything, or at least very little, with with a female Luke, he just one day suddenly told McQuarrie to draw the hero as a girl and then a while after handed in a new draft where the hero was male again. I’m sure someone here can confirm or correct me on this.

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#1329882
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
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SilverWook said:

I recorded it off of PBS back in the day. There apparently was an LD release in Japan.
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/28211/SS098-0022/SFX-Special

Interesting. Like a lot of these 80’s VFX documentaries they don’t have very original or even consistent names, so they’re very hard to track down. Plus, there’s apparently a 1984 thriller called “Special Effects” so I only get links to info about that film when I try to google this doc. I also just discovered that there’s a 2011 thread dedicated to the LD you linked to, though they didn’t seem to get much further than that with it.

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#1329880
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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SilverWook said:

Interesting find! Not sure how someone could extract the original narration cleanly from a mono track though.

Maybe George liked the 1976 trailer?

Well, it’s not the same narration, I don’t even think its the same voice, it’s just done in the same style.

Maybe Lucas did like the trailer, after all the whole “somewhere in space this might be all happening now” was probably written before he added “A long time ago…” to the opening of the film, so he could have commissioned a similar trailer to be made but with updated lines.

It just weirds me out because its such a fan trailer thing to do, and I can’t imagine too many would have recognized the gimmick pre-internet. Then again I wasn’t even born in 1980 so I don’t know how familiar fans were with the specifics of trailers, maybe the 1976 trailer was considered a “classic” even then. I suppose Lucas could have just liked the vibe of it and decided to make a similar one for ESB before deciding to go with the other trailers.