Zion

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Post: #71073
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71073/action/topic#71073
Time: 14-Oct-2004 12:07 PM

Nah, no updates. I didn't get a chance to work on anything yesterday. Probably tonight though.

Post: #71069
Topic: Info: holy smokes - starwarslegacy.com
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71069/action/topic#71069
Time: 14-Oct-2004 11:48 AM

MeBeJedi, dude, take a step back man. Calm down. I think you're getting a little too upset over this. People are going to have their opinions no matter what you say in response. Right or wrong, let them believe what they want to.

Post: #70900
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70900/action/topic#70900
Time: 12-Oct-2004 11:47 PM

Well, just checked both my Faces and Definitive editions. The jump is there on both, and it's just as noticable - exactly the same thing.

And just as Ash said, I didn't even notice this until you guys mentioned it.

Post: #70864
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70864/action/topic#70864
Time: 12-Oct-2004 7:53 PM

It is on my raw capture. Tonight when I get home I'll take a look at all 3 copies I have and see if the "bounce" is on all of them also.

Post: #70812
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70812/action/topic#70812
Time: 12-Oct-2004 11:53 AM

Yep, it's there from the LD source. In the scene with the jawas unloading the droids at the moisture farm, you can see this quite easily. This is yet another thing that will stick out on the bootleg DVD's, but there's not much we can do about it......unless your name is mverta.

Post: #70801
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70801/action/topic#70801
Time: 12-Oct-2004 9:45 AM

talk about SW bootlegs plz. kthxbye.

Post: #70656
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70656/action/topic#70656
Time: 11-Oct-2004 12:44 AM

My color correction process tweaks the brights, mids, and blacks individually. The blacks come out much better than how they look in both the raw capture and Laserschwert's mpeg.

Blasphemy!

How dare you speak ill of CRT. No wonder you want to create a 16:9 version. Because of the limitations of fixed pixels and the inability to change resolution on LCD/Plasma screens, hey? My CRT computer monitor is feeling very sick after displaying that blasphemy, goaghhha CRT FOREVER!

Daniel

lol. I just meant I'd like to see what it looks like on an actual tv. Besides, flaws in images show up much better on LCD/Plasma screens than they do on the not-as-bright CRT's.

And on that note, I didn't get to test out my disc today. Too much football on.

Post: #70604
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70604/action/topic#70604
Time: 10-Oct-2004 1:28 PM

Rebelscum, here's an image from an old "Definitive" capture that shows some bad rotting. I don't have anything anywhere near this bad on my new captures, but it gives you an idea of what it looks like:

laser rot

It's true you have to have three exact copies. Even if the color is off on one of them, it makes things look a little wierd and creates some crazy artifacting. In my tests yesterday, the three source captures I used were lined up perfectly and the filter worked like a charm. And you're right, the filter does do a little noise reduction, which is always a good thing.

Post: #70590
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70590/action/topic#70590
Time: 10-Oct-2004 5:58 AM

Thanks guys. As always, the help you all have provided me is much appreciated.

Well, I'm making a test disc to take around and play on a few tv's to see how the image quality looks. My friend has a 50" HDTV that should do quite nicely, as I'm anxious to take a look at this thing on something other than my CRT.

What I've done is taken various scenes from ANH and cut them together in Premiere. I've taken the audio stream and saved one copy as PCM and another as AC3. As soon as the mpeg is finished encoding, I'll throw all three of these into scenarist and burn a test RW disc. This should make my Sunday....after the Bronco game of course.

Post: #70570
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70570/action/topic#70570
Time: 10-Oct-2004 12:49 AM

Well, I've only been playing around with it for a few minutes, but stuff like that, and of course rot spots, are completely removed. This toot filter is simple, yet 100% effective.

Post: #70561
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70561/action/topic#70561
Time: 9-Oct-2004 10:44 PM

You're absolutely right Laserschwert. The convolution3d filter is bringing out the ghosting. So anyway, I guess I didn't look too closely at that last screencap before I posted it last night. I hope you'll let it slide this time though, since it was way past my bed time.

So now without the noise and sharpen filters, I am getting similar results to what you have posted, only the color is looking much better.

I'm going to start experimenting with this TOOT filter now...

Post: #70495
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70495/action/topic#70495
Time: 9-Oct-2004 2:45 AM

Yeah, it looks pretty damn good regardless, but I'm still using my convolution3d (avisynth) and MSU smart sharpen (vdub) filters. You can tell that the noise is significantly reduced:

http://aptirrelevance.com/videoprojects/images/sample.02.jpg

Now I'm off to update my screenshots for the screenshots thread.

Post: #70482
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70482/action/topic#70482
Time: 9-Oct-2004 12:53 AM

Here are the screenshots I promised. What I've done is taken shots of the different stages of processing to show you guys how much better the finished product looks.

On the top is the raw capture, the middle is the filtered video, and the bottom is the color corrected video:

http://aptirrelevance.com/videoprojects/images/sample.01.jpg

http://aptirrelevance.com/videoprojects/images/sample.05.jpg

As you can see, the filters Laserschwert suggested make a world of difference, as the ghosting is now gone. Thanks again man.

Post: #70471
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70471/action/topic#70471
Time: 8-Oct-2004 11:41 PM

Never heard of Audacity. I'm using Adobe Audition though.

Post: #70428
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70428/action/topic#70428
Time: 8-Oct-2004 7:09 PM

There is no digital audio out on my LD player, however I have been told that it is output digitally through one of the analog audio jacks. I haven't experimented with this yet, so I don't know for sure. I hope to capture it digitally if at all possible though.

Post: #70393
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70393/action/topic#70393
Time: 8-Oct-2004 3:44 PM

Of course I'm going to normalize. All of the audio tracks should be consistant as far as levels go, so that switching between them won't require much volume adjustment. I'm thinking right now that I'll normalize my PCM track to the same reference level as the DD track (-31dbFS).

Post: #70299
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70299/action/topic#70299
Time: 8-Oct-2004 12:04 AM

I'll upload one tonight and send you a link.

Post: #70295
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70295/action/topic#70295
Time: 7-Oct-2004 11:58 PM

Yeah, I think the IVTC may be causing the stairstep. I'm IVTCing with virtualdub, so I don't know if that makes a difference. I'll try the AVIsynth method though. Got any suggestions before I head over to videohelp?

Just read your edited post. That's a great workflow, and very similar to what I'm doing currently. Let's see now if I can make those filters work...

Post: #70292
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70292/action/topic#70292
Time: 7-Oct-2004 11:46 PM

lol! Well I'm really glad that someone is taking the time to make suggestions. It bugs me when the only thing people say is "awesome" or "this rulez". Sorry if that sounded a bit sarcastic, it was meant as a genuine compliment. I like it when people point out the flaws in my work and tell me what I need to improve.

Laserschwert, I see what you're saying now with the brightness thing. I'm going to start tinkering around with it right now.

Post: #70284
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70284/action/topic#70284
Time: 7-Oct-2004 10:30 PM

Laserschwert, thank you for dissecting my screencaps today and suggesting all of these filters. Seriously, it's great to have someone like you come along and tell me what I could be doing better, I appreciate it.

I'm going to play around with these filters you have mentioned. I've tried out guavacomb, but the rest of them are new to me. Hopefully I can correct the haloing problem. Even if it ups the brightness a bit, it's not that big of a deal since I can always adjust that when I color correct in Premiere.

More screencaps coming tomarrow...

Post: #70257
Topic: Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70257/action/topic#70257
Time: 7-Oct-2004 8:25 PM

_Mike,

This is the coolest thing I have ever seen. Kudos to you, my friend. There is definitely a difference between the work of a pro (you) and the rest of us amateur bootleggers.

Post: #70243
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70243/action/topic#70243
Time: 7-Oct-2004 5:59 PM

The composite signal actually looks better than the svideo because it doesn't introduce nearly as much dot crawl. This most likely has something to do with the older comb filter in the LD player (circa 1994).

How am I resizing? In AVIsynth:

lanczosresize(720,360)
addborders(0,60,0,60)

Post: #70236
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70236/action/topic#70236
Time: 7-Oct-2004 5:34 PM

My capture was done with composite monster video cable. The halo is on the raw capture.

Post: #70214
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70214/action/topic#70214
Time: 7-Oct-2004 4:30 PM

Originally posted by: Laserschwert
By the way, Zion, there are still several artifacts I notice on your screenshot. One being a slight "stairstep"-effect on diagonal lines. Did you deinterlace the source? Another thing being a slight ghosting effect... you can see this effect very good on the screenshot of Luke at the homestead watching the binary sunset. The ghosting shows as a slight dark shadow of the video itself, left of Luke's head. There's a good filter to fix that contained in TMPEG, so maybe you might want to take a look into that.

Furthermore, your image looks a bit fuzzy... I guess some sharpening would be appropriate here. Since you're using AviSynth inbetween, I would use the WarpSharp package for it, and add these commands to your script:

Lanczos4Resize(720 * 4, 480 * 4)
XSharpen
Lanczos4Resize(720, 480)

Maybe some noise reduction afterwards would be needed. The video size, of course, depends on what you work with, but I guess you're working at this resolution.

EDIT: Mmh... I guess the first thing should be the removal of the ghosting effect (it would only get worse when sharpening and filtering the image with the ghosting)... although I don't know if there's a VirtualDub-plugin for this. After all, you can't do it in TMPEG, since TMPEG is your last step.

Yeah, that "stairstep" effect bugs the hell out of me. I'm going to mess around and see if I can get rid of it tonight. I've never heard of the warpsharp package, but I'll take a look at it. I'm already employing a number of filters including noise reduction and sharpening. I'll post a few caps of my raw capture to show you how much better the finished product is looking.

As for the black bar issue, you guys pretty much already said it. They have to be encoded into the video.

Post: #70133
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70133/action/topic#70133
Time: 7-Oct-2004 1:32 AM

I need three copies of each in order to use a filter that will combine all three and give me a rot spot free video to encode with. I'm going to test this out as soon as your LD's get here.

Oh, and here's one hot off the encoder:

http://aptirrelevance.com/videoprojects/images/ANH.fac.cmp.rgb.csg.01.jpg

As you can see, the official DVD's still show more than what's on the LD.