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#72540
Topic
.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72540/action/topic#72540
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tellan,

Yes, the MSU filters are ungodly slow. If not for the smart sharpen's efficiency, I wouldn't even have given it a second look. However, I had great results using it along with the AVIsynth convolution3d filter.

As far as IVTCing with virtualdub, you have to start it on the first progressive frame (P P P I I P...) in order to make it work. Otherwise it doesn't work at all. I haven't seen any interlaced frames sneak by with this method.

No, I have not eliminated the jaggies. If you come across a good filter for this, please let me know. I haven't even begun to look for one yet.

As for the darkness of my capture, I do that intentionally in order to not lose the bright details. If you look at that first screencap in the *Official* screencaps thread, you will notice that some of the other captures are way too bright, and the details in the whites are all but gone. In capturing a little darker, I am able to retain a little of that detail. Of course this is at the cost of a little detail loss on the dark end, but I feel this is a compromise I'm willing to make - at least for this film. I'm thinking ESB and ROTJ won't need this so much.
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#72501
Topic
<strong>The Odyssey Collection</strong> (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72501/action/topic#72501
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Yeah, I think a better way to go is to lower the min and up the average. There are some shots that really don't need all that extra bandwith to look good and you could use that extra space for more intense ones.

Did you capture the video in 4:3 and cropped it in another program?
Also, how does the dvd standard handle non-interlaced video?
Oh are these laserdisc player video at a film or standard video(29.97) frame rate?

Yes, capture in 4:3 at your highest possible resolution (mine is 720x480), then crop with an AVIsynth script or whatever video editor you are using (VirtualDub/Premiere). The LD video is telecined to 29.97 from the progressive source. An inverse-telecine (IVTC) process can restore the 24fps progressive frames. To get the most out of your dvd, encode your mpeg to 23.97, not 29.97. You'll save a lot of space this way.

Hope that helps.
Post
#72496
Topic
.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72496/action/topic#72496
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So, basically, it's all my fault...

Well damn you Jan for trying to make it look better! I wonder if using a chroma shift filter would help on this??

Oh, and the IVTC works flawlessly on VirtualDub as far as I can tell. No problems as of yet, but I haven't sat down and really studied the difference between it and the AVIsynth method.


Simon, you are absolutely right man. At some points the menu seems a little dull and long. One thing you have to remember is that the main part of the menu (in between the transitions) has to be about 20-30 seconds long. It's the part that keeps replaying over and over until an option is selected, and if it's too short, it gets even more annoying.

I'm taking a lot of your suggestions guys and will be trying some new things to see if I can liven the menu up a little. I really don't like the dialog right now on the main menu. I think it needs something else, but I just can't decide exactly what.

Thanks again for everyone's input. Please keep sharing your thoughts, good or bad. I love the constructive critisism! It's the only way I can make things better.


Ash, it does look a little over saturated. Maybe I need to tone it down a little.
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#72438
Topic
.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72438/action/topic#72438
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Ok, I'll make it good. Just for you man.

Well, tonight I put the menu on hold and switched back to the video encoding. I took my test DVD over to a friend's house and was very dissapointed at how dark my video came out. I've spent the past few hours tweaking my color correction process, and this is the result...

http://www.aptirrelevance.com/videoprojects/images/ANH.jer.dvdi.08.jpg

Not only did I brighten the video up significantly, but black levels are still black, and the color is even more vivid. If you saw my raw capture, you wouldn't believe that these screencaps came from it.

At first glance, the only thing I don't like about these is the noise. I'll try to work on that.

MORE SCREENSHOTS ARE UP AT THE WEBSITE


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#72260
Topic
Info: a point to consider with the different versions out there
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72260/action/topic#72260
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I also conservatively sharpened mine, when I see what Zion has achieved it makes me a bit bitter as I lost my original STAR WARS capture due to a freak FAT table glitch and no longer own the laserdisc set to recapture so I can do it all again but better.

Ah, I hated my old win98 setup that would crash on a whim if it didn't like something, like changing a folder name. ;\

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#72173
Topic
Star Wars OT ANH - PAL Laserdisc transfer (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72173/action/topic#72173
Time
You're off to a great start Grisan. Like a few have pointed out though, there are some things you can do to improve your transfers.

As far as color correction goes, I can tell you from having stared at my screen for hours at a time tweaking things that it's very important to keep as much detail as possible. Your final screeshots look a bit too dark, and you can tell in that shot that Ash posted that the faces of the toops are pretty much gone. You might try raising the gama level and also lowering your saturation a couple of notches.

Great work so far though.
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#72163
Topic
.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72163/action/topic#72163
Time
lol

I thought about doing that. But I don't think it's going to happen. One set of menus is hard enough!


Ok, here is my updated main menu, with preliminary options menu (and transition) added on.

ESB Main Menu v3
(5MB, XviD) right-click and choose "save as" to download.

There are still a few things I need to tweak on the main menu, making the general less jerky being the first one.
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#72140
Topic
.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72140/action/topic#72140
Time
Yes, it is supposed to be there. On the clip I cut off the opening part, which shows the star wars logo fading to black, then panning over to the executor. Download and watch the other clip I have posted on my web site to see the whole thing.

On that note, I'm starting on the other parts of the menu right now. The options menu is vader turning around to view the screen behind him.

Hmmm... wonder what I should put on the screen...
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#72048
Topic
.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/72048/action/topic#72048
Time
Thanks for the heads up Simon. I'll have to keep an eye out for any sales. I'd really like to get a SATA 250GB drive to compliment my RAID 0 setup. It would make a world of difference as it would allow me to keep the original captures in case I need to revert back to them. As it stands right now, I only have enough HD space to capture one side at a time.

Thanks for your compliments guys. I'm trying to make this set look as professional as possible. If nothing else, just to see if I can fool anyone into thinking that these are official.
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#71784
Topic
.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71784/action/topic#71784
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Oh, the menu will be about 20-30 seconds long. That's just the very beginning. The background video is choppy because it came from a 25fps source (XviD), but it'll do as a placeholder until I put the real video in.


How far am I with my project? I'll be burning a test DVD of ANH (no menus, not the full movie) this week to try out on a few systems, and submit to a few people for review.


My biggest problem right now is that I only have about 60-70GB of available HD space. I'm in dire need of one of those new-fangled 250GB SATA drives. If anyone knows of any good deals out there, let me know.