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Post: #229517
Topic: The "original crawl" on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229517/action/topic#229517
Time: 26-Jul-2006 3:08 PM

I'm not talking about a dissolve. Having recreated a few of the crawls myself, I know that the Star Wars logo, the starfield plate, and the crawl text are all separate elements. What they did was either take the logo element or the text element and change their timing so that they were onscreen at the same time. Either the logo was delayed a couple seconds, or the text was moved up a couple seconds. And of course they sped things up as well for effect in the trailer.

Post: #229510
Topic: OOT DVDs - interlaced or progressive?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229510/action/topic#229510
Time: 26-Jul-2006 2:53 PM

Yes, there are a lot of cadence errors in the interlacing on the LD. But I don't think that would actually carry over to a progressive-transfered DVD. If the errors caused the problems, then the entire film after the first cadence error would be off and about 1-3 of every 5 frames would be interlaced. I'm going to guess that Lucasfilm said hell with IVTC and are putting this out interlaced. I hope I'm wrong, but then again, there's always the PAL version.

Post: #229503
Topic: The "original crawl" on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229503/action/topic#229503
Time: 26-Jul-2006 2:37 PM

I think zombie is correct to a point. What they show in that tiny shot from the new trailer is a crawl that's been edited to immediately show the difference between the old and new versions. From looking at that, I'm willing to bet the whole shot was a digital mock up. The star field is obviously not from the EOD version, or the 2004 DVD. The text is a different color as well (taking into account that the whole video is overly bright as well, the text and starfield shouldn't be that bright on the OUT DVD). What I think happened was somone took the digitally recreated crawl that they used for the OUT DVD and changed the logo to fade out at that moment so that it could be shown in that short clip on the trailer. I really don't think it's going to look like that on the DVD. But I do think that we're going to get a recreated crawl and not the original, because that would've taken a lot less work.

Also keep in mind that that yellow text in the trailer is about the same color as the text on the DC LD.

Post: #229268
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229268/action/topic#229268
Time: 26-Jul-2006 1:15 AM

Well let's get one thing straight: nobody is going to BUY these, at least not from us. Otherwise, the official retail sources have been posted in this thread and, yes, the forum rules still apply.

Post: #229243
Topic: What is the rarest video in your collection?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229243/action/topic#229243
Time: 26-Jul-2006 12:37 AM

I used to have the DTS version of Jurassic Park on DVD. I loved to demo it for people when I was a home theater sales guy to show off how great DTS was. But of course someone stole it and all I have left is the empty case.

Post: #229169
Topic: OUT Audio: Pablo Speaks
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229169/action/topic#229169
Time: 25-Jul-2006 9:04 PM

Pablo Hidalgo talks about the Audio on the new DVDs at the SDCC Fan Club breakfast

"If you do pick up these singles, and listen to the bonus discs, do yourself a favor and listen to the French and Spanish language tracks. These are the old original foreign version dubs and there's some interesting sound effects that appear in those versions that don't appear in the English versions, so it's really interesting to listen to the different versions.

"[In the English version], specifically, you won't hear the stormtrooper 'close the blast doors!' and you won't hear C-3PO say 'the tractor beam is coupled to the main reactor in seven locations, a power loss at one of the terminals will allow the ship to leave.' I got a chance to listen to these, and realized, that's the version I heard on VHS all these years! And yes, you will hear Luke say to Artoo 'you were lucky you don't taste so good,' as opposed to 'you were lucky to get out of there.' So, it's like an old friend coming home."

http://www.starwars.com/community/event/con/f20060718/indexp9.html

Post: #229112
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229112/action/topic#229112
Time: 25-Jul-2006 5:38 PM

In the words of Lando, "We're working on it!"

Sorry, that's all I can say right now. I keep saying that another video is going up on the sight "soon", and I know that's seems to have taken bloody ages. Stuff happens. One week we're banging on all cylinders, the next, people are out of town and work/family/real life takes all of our time.

This is going as fast as it can, but even I'd be lying if I didn't say I wish we were finished by now.

Post: #228508
Topic: Star Wars PSA's videos are on youtube
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228508/action/topic#228508
Time: 23-Jul-2006 11:19 PM

Links would be helpful, unless for some reason these are bootlegs of official releases.

Post: #228369
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228369/action/topic#228369
Time: 23-Jul-2006 2:20 PM

From the Hyperspace audio, his exact words during the Q&A were: "It was a chance to go back to George again and say, 'George, this might be a really good opportunity, if you're ever gonna let us do this, how about for the fans we release the original versions?' You know as well as I do what George thinks. And George thinks, especially for Star Wars, it wasn't the movie that he wanted to put out."

So yeah, Sansweet's basically saying that we're lucky these are being put out at all.

Post: #228363
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228363/action/topic#228363
Time: 23-Jul-2006 1:51 PM

Any and all "restoration" or "color correcting" Sansweet mentioned for this release was done back in '93. He's just trying to talk up whatever work was done for the Definitive Collection LDs.

It's disheartening - though not surprising - to hear Sansweet talking like that. He basically brushed off the anamorphic and quality issues by joking about them, then showed the actual (inferior) footage and says, "it doesn't look that bad, does it?". No, Steve, it DOES look that bad.

Post: #228237
Topic: Jay?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228237/action/topic#228237
Time: 22-Jul-2006 9:06 PM

Probably busy with his new job and/or working on the new software. He's still around.

Post: #226725
Topic: Can anyone make me a title crawl?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226725/action/topic#226725
Time: 16-Jul-2006 7:45 PM

There are three crawl tutorials on that page. I can't remember if I used the first or the second one, but some of the numbers it gives were way off for some reason. I made it work though.

Post: #226625
Topic: Can anyone make me a title crawl?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226625/action/topic#226625
Time: 16-Jul-2006 3:47 AM

I use After Effects to make mine. There was a tutorial on theforce.net that explained how to create one (not sure if it's still there). I took that, heavily modified it, and the results are hard to distinguish from the real thing - aside from the absense of film jitter.

Post: #226622
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226622/action/topic#226622
Time: 16-Jul-2006 3:22 AM

From my experience - and MBJ would probably tell you the same thing - what you see in those frames in the NTSC version are the burn marks "cleaned" up by the '93 THX process. If I recall correctly, you can see the same type of thing between the Japanese Special Collection and the Definitive Edition LDs. The JSC will have a scratch or a spot or something in one frame, and in the DE it's still kind of there but mostly not. Things like those burn marks, however, are not on the JSC.

Based on that, I'd say that the PAL and NTSC THX LDs are from the same transfer. I would also guess that the pre-THX LDs were possibly transfered from the same print, but from an earlier transfer.

Post: #226060
Topic: Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226060/action/topic#226060
Time: 13-Jul-2006 4:52 AM

Wow, to say that this guy doesn't get it would be an understatement. You could beat it into him all day long and it would be all for naught.

Post: #225306
Topic: World Cup 2006
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225306/action/topic#225306
Time: 9-Jul-2006 6:29 PM

It was horribly shocking to see a man in his final World Cup appearance, in the World Cup Finals, in OVERTIME, with the GAME ON THE LINE, stoop so low to do something as classless as that. You'd think a guy with as much experience as he has, and everything to play for, would be setting the example for the rest of his team. A shame. I nearly turned if off to watch the golf tournament after that.

The match was pretty boring after the 80th minute or so. If not for that single scoring chance and the, um, incident, overtime was pretty much a waste of time. I still don't understand why overtime is not sudden death, yet penalty shots are if it's still tied after 5 rounds. That's like having sudden death overtime in baseball. I'll never understand this game.

Post: #225175
Topic: Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225175/action/topic#225175
Time: 8-Jul-2006 8:35 PM

The US pre-THX (widescreen) LDs have the same colors, just a lot worse in quality.

Post: #225170
Topic: Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225170/action/topic#225170
Time: 8-Jul-2006 7:44 PM

The Japanese Special Collection LDs are A LOT closer to the original colors than the THX LDs. It's almost like watching a different movie. On the DC, certain scenes were made darker, and colors look to be purposefully washed out in others. I'd be very interested to see how Grinder's latest transfer compares.

Post: #224663
Topic: Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224663/action/topic#224663
Time: 6-Jul-2006 1:55 PM

My example above is 16mm at best. More than adequate.

Post: #224536
Topic: Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224536/action/topic#224536
Time: 5-Jul-2006 8:41 PM

Let's say you saved each frame in PNG format. At 2K resolution, that would be around 6MB per frame. Thats over a terrabyte in storage space for the whole film. Don't forget that any OOT film you can find is probably going to look like this when scanned. If it takes years to scan and assemble the film digitally, it'll take at least that long to clean up frame by frame.

Post: #224472
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224472/action/topic#224472
Time: 5-Jul-2006 4:52 PM

We've really been lagging on that since the announcement of the DVDs came out. I have a friend that works at a t-shirt shop, so hopefully we'll have something soon.

Post: #224464
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224464/action/topic#224464
Time: 5-Jul-2006 4:06 PM

Not sure. Laserman has it.

Post: #224084
Topic: Favorite Stuff of All Time
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224084/action/topic#224084
Time: 3-Jul-2006 5:30 PM

Movie: The Empire Strikes Back
Game: Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Song: (Tough to name just one) "Sad Machines" - Project 86, "The Rising End (The First Prophecy)" - Zao, "Sleeping Awake" - P.O.D.
TV Show: Mystery Science Theater 3000
Book: The Revelation

Post: #224033
Topic: Lucas may have caved, here is a link to Barnes & Noble early review of the O-OT DVD's:
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224033/action/topic#224033
Time: 3-Jul-2006 1:41 PM

There are over a hundred on amazon.com.

Post: #223997
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223997/action/topic#223997
Time: 3-Jul-2006 3:02 AM

With any preservation project that is IVTC'd (which is every one I've encountered save for dark_jedi's transfers), you can apply the X0 timecode offset to 01:00:40:12 at the first frame of the Star Wars logo, set at 24fps, and it should match up just fine.

Here's something you can try if you're bored: Line up the X0 TC Print with any PAL or pre-THX transfer. What you will notice is that certain frames in places where the film was spliced are actually missing from the PAL and pre-THX versions. Mostly these are the frames at the beginning and end of shots that have yellow tape at the bottom. For example, check out the end of the shot where Vader says "There will be no one to stop us this time!". I'm not 100% sure about the PAL, but there are actually 3 frames missing from the Special Collection at the end of that shot and 2 at the beginning of the next shot. When people talk about audio sync issues, this is one of the big reasons why it happens.