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#235959
Topic
Star Wars film versions and best DVD sources
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235959/action/topic#235959
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I only uploaded it twice to the newsgroups. I remember there was a torrent for it somewhere right after the initial upload to a.b.dvdr and a.b.starwars. But after what happened to the people who released the original rip, I figured I probably shouldn't up mine again.

The original Xvid I worked from had the logos and crawl, but no credits. If I'm not mistaken, the original rip with the timecode had the credits.
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#235956
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235956/action/topic#235956
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
jay TALKS ABOUT MATURITY, BUT IF ALL OF YOU HAD SEEN HIS POSTS OVER AT THE OTHER SITE YOU WOULD SEE WHAT A HYPOCRITE HE IS BEING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

That's funny, because I see people acting one way over there and completely another here, and Jay isn't one of them.


I hate it when people get worked up over something as stupid as a web site and flush their friendships down the drain because of it. (This statement is directed at everyone involved, not just the people who are taking offense to OT.com staff and are trying to get banned over it.)
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#235264
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BadAssKeith: You need to chill, dude.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235264/action/topic#235264
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Thanks SKot, you said it before I had a chance to do it myself. This forum is not here to bash Lucas and dwell on the negative aspects of Star Wars. Please adjust yourself accordingly BadAssKeith and everyone else. A lot of people have been saying that General Star Wars Discussion has taken a turn for the worse lately. This is partly due to the fact that there isn't a mod who frequents this forum. But it also has a lot to do with the rest of you who post in here daily. I would hope that some of you regulars would take charge and get this forum back on the right course. SKot has the right idea, let's see if the rest of you can do the same.

And just so you know, this site is probably a lot more popular than you realize. Other web sites link to it more often than you might think. Zombie's crawl thread was linked to over at TheDigitalBits a couple weeks ago. Other forums I visit link to threads here all the time. So I wouldn't discount the possibility that certain people may be watching.
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#234962
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234962/action/topic#234962
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Originally posted by: Warbler
I disagree, there is no other reason not to make the announcement of your promotion in the Announcements section other then to keep it quiet. Can you think of another reason? I can't. See, I wish you wouldn't think like that. It makes you sound like you have something against Jay. Like you said, Jay is human and probably just forgot. If the preservation forum was a place you rarely visited, why would it matter so much that a mod was elected with powers only in that forum?

You were the one the complained about how bad things are on that section and critized the Mangler Bros for not cleaing up as if it were their job. If you don't have time, energy and/or will to clean up that section, then don't critize unoffical mods for not cleaning either. Maybe the unoffical mods don't have the time, energy, or will to clean it up either. Does that make them any less worthy than you to be a mod? If your in a glass house, don't throw stones. I really hate the internet sometimes. To you, my post comes off as if I'm blaming you guys for not doing something about it, but in reality I was only pointing out that you guys didn't frequent that forum either, and that nobody has complained about it to the mods. Sheesh.

If a very prominent and respected part of the community has demonstated that he has will and ability to be mod, he should atleast be considered and if not made mod, he given an honest reason. Just because Jay thinks that someone does not deserve to be a mod doesn't mean that they don't deserve to be mod. Jay is human and can make mistakes.
If you own a web site, you decide who is promoted and who isn't. It's nobody else's decision but yours.

Did they atkeast give you and explanation as to why not? Did they tell you reason was they did want mods at all then go and appoint someone else a mod? You're going to tell me you didn't in any way feel slighted? If so, I am happy for you. But still don't blame Dayv he did feel slighted.
The rule on TFN about asking to be a mod is to not ask at all. That kind of vibe sort of keeps you from demanding a reason why you weren't selected. Did I feel slighted? Maybe at first, but I also understood that it was their decision to appoint someone they felt comfortable with to help run their site.
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#234930
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234930/action/topic#234930
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Originally posted by: Warbler
exactly, there should have been an anncouncement made in the main anncouncement section. Appointing the first ever OT.com mod is big news don't you think? Yet was put in a thread most members would not look at. The point is, the excuse Jay used to not appoint Dayv a mod was that he didn't want mods. When he appointed you a mod, that excuse became null and void. I don't have all the answers. But it sounds like you guys have some sort of built up fowl vendetta against Jay for not appointing you as mods. Are you saying that boon's new site has something to do with that? Sure, it would have been nice to announce my promotion in the Announcements forum, but that doesn't mean he was trying to be shady about it.

Seeing as Jay hasn't made them mods and has told them to stop acting like mods, I don't blame them. Why don't you and the other mods do you job and clean it up?
Do I detect some hostillity here? First of all, I have nothing against any of you guys. Second, being a mod on a message board is purely a voluntary position, and if I don't have the time, energy, and will to clean up the GSWD forum, I'm not going to do it. This is something you could've went to Jay about. But don't worry, things will probably be changing there fairly soon.

So now you're telling me the reason Dayv wasn't appointed an offical mod was because of how well he did an unoffical mod? Does that really make sense?

You can not get around the point that for all the hard work Dayv put into this site, he should been made a mod, and the very lest was deserving of a good explanation as to why he wasn't considered.
Again, I have nothing against you or Dayv or anyone else. But understand that just because someone is a very prominent and respected part of a community, it doesn't mean that they "deserve" to be a mod. Nobody "deserves" to be a mod on a message board unless the PTB believe they do and believe there is a need for a new mod. As far as this site goes, only Jay can answer that question.

I was a very prominent member of TFN about five years ago. I had a lot of friends there that were mods and Fan Force RSA's. I believed that I too deserved to be a mod because of the way I acted and treated people. But you know what? The administration didn't see things my way and never once was I considered for a mod position. I didn't like their decision, but that doesn't mean I hated them for it or thought any less of them.
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#234879
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234879/action/topic#234879
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He didn't do it behind anyone's back, there was a thread stickied to the top of the preservation forum. My mod privieleges were extended to the whole forum after AWK was banned the first time and came back under a couple different names. Before that I had no priveleges outside the preservation boards.

General SW Discussion is a bloody mess because there isn't a mod who frequents it. I also don't see the Mangler Bros. frequenting it either. Anyway, we have been discussing naming another mod for a little while, and this is one of the reasons why. It's great what you guys did in the past for the Off Topic forum, and it's probably one of the reason's why Jay felt it didn't need a dedicated mod.
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#234861
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234861/action/topic#234861
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Originally posted by: boon23
I still don't think you understand why Jay implemented this policy here. This site is the hub of the preservation and fan edit community. You tried using these forums to take part of that community away and make it your own. All this was before you bothered to contact Jay. In fact, I don't think you ever did. You knew that Jay had already been working on fanedits.com months ago. When I found out about your new web site from Dayv, he told me that you, Boon, had contacted Jay about your new site. But in reality, you never did. He had to contact you about it after I and a couple other people brought it to his attention. So let the record show that it was you guys who started all this secrecy crap. Accusations and lies. You really want me to comment anymore on this? Sorry, I can't. You just want people to think I am a bad person, who had nothing but mean plans on his mind. Go ahead, but I cannot support your quest. As I said: I have the evidence. You have nothing. Of course I want you to comment, this is one of the biggest reasons why we're in this position right now. I might be wrong in accusing you of trying to steal people away from this site, but you and I both know that Jay was the last person to find out about this. Especially when Dayv told me you contacted him and I found out that that wasn't true. Now I don't know if that was intentional or not, but that's what happened.

Having posts and having different forums to post in are two completely different things. Are you saying that you had nothing to do with what forums were created on your own site? The fact is, when we found out that your site was up and running, most of those forums were already there, and that was back when there was probably a total of 20 posts and about 4 or 5 forum members. It was also before Jay ever got involved. So when you tried labeling it as a "companion site" or "sister site", your forums hardly looked the part. First: yes, I had nothing to do with the way the website and its forum was built in the first place, but I liked it. Ask our webmaster Paulie79 if you want the truth. He is a nice guy.
From there on: again lies. Who do you want to impress so badly? I have the evidence and you have nothing.
You keep saying that, but you're not showing any evidence to contradict what I'm saying. I don't really want to fight with you, I'm just calling it the way I'm seeing it. And from what I saw, your site was set up with a slew of forums including ones about Star Wars and Sci-Fi the same day Dayv first revealed it to me.

I am no webmaster, but let me take a guess: the entire forum is no more than 10 gigabytes,is itAnd yes, I thought the only people using this site are the ones logged in. Why should I care about the others, who obviously have not much to do with OT?
The amount of disk space this site uses is irrelevant. Site traffic is based on bandwidth. Every single person who surfs these forums, regardless of whether they are a member who is logged in or just a guest, uses up the site's bandwidth. A site that gets over a million hits every month needs more than just a bargain-basement $10 a month host.

Please stop this thinking for me, Zion. You don't know anything about me and if you would, you might find out "I am not so bad" (ups, that is a quote from Matrix Revolutions... and it was Smith who said it).
As I said above, I don't want to fight with you. I just felt inclined to post my thoughts here, and let everyone else know what is really going on. I really wish people could understand where Jay and I are coming from on this. This shouldnt' be about leaving one site altogether and joining another because your post got edited. It shouldn't be about us vs. them because someone treated you badly one night. This is about the future of the fan editing community and the evolution of OriginalTrilogy.com.

Everyone is at fault here. Nobody is perfect. If Jay or I said something to you that you took personal offense to, I hope you can shrug it off and move on because we haven't exactly been calm the last few days - Jay especially.


Originally posted by: Warbler
]Then, all of sudden, in a section of the forum some of the member rarly looked at, he appointed a mod.
Let me just say that this is exactly why one of you guys wasn't chosen. Jay chose me because I frequented the preservation forum and several other people showed their support for me. The preservation forum was dying because of the troll DanielB, and people were beginning to leave the site altogether because of him. A mod who frequented that section of the boards needed to be appointed.
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#234773
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234773/action/topic#234773
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Originally posted by: boon23
Zion:
this is the second time I regret having answered to anything you say. You want YOUR truth. Go for it. But I have the emails and the messages and the dates... you don't.

What I regret is that after everything I've posted, this is all you can say. I've made several good points but you either can't or won't respond. With that kind of attitude, you leave the impression that you don't really care about what's happenning.
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#234764
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234764/action/topic#234764
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Originally posted by: boon23
1. the forum on our website is now starting to pulsate with life BECAUSE we are not allowed to use OT forums to talk about anyhting regarding us anymore. Instead of tlaking around and not linking, we do our talking where we are not limited. You would do the same, I guess.
I still don't think you understand why Jay implemented this policy here. This site is the hub of the preservation and fan edit community. You tried using these forums to take part of that community away and make it your own. All this was before you bothered to contact Jay. In fact, I don't think you ever did. You knew that Jay had already been working on fanedits.com months ago. When I found out about your new web site from Dayv, he told me that you, Boon, had contacted Jay about your new site. But in reality, you never did. He had to contact you about it after I and a couple other people brought it to his attention. So let the record show that it was you guys who started all this secrecy crap.

It didn't look like this a few days ago. What you see is the development after being forbidden companionship by Jay himself. And we don't rest obviously, that is for true. We are creating something, people might like to be part of, which is their decision.[Our forum started very small and in the beginning no one posted there anything, not me. You may want to take a look at the first post and how much time passed until the next one was made and so on. Call it evidence if you must, but I am not a liar. Our webmaster is a huge Star Trek fan, he created our forum and that explains why there is room for sci-fi, ST and SW talk.
The thing is: now we want to be a home for those who want, for whatever reason. Call it competition, I call it neighbourhood.

Having posts and having different forums to post in are two completely different things. Are you saying that you had nothing to do with what forums were created on your own site? The fact is, when we found out that your site was up and running, most of those forums were already there, and that was back when there was probably a total of 20 posts and about 4 or 5 forum members. It was also before Jay ever got involved. So when you tried labeling it as a "companion site" or "sister site", your forums hardly looked the part.

2. Let's not talk about money again, please. And please let us not compare this LITTLE forum with a website like myspleen, where tetabytes of traffic are used to drive the torrents through. I know about prices in Germany and the USA (and USA are cheaper). Hundreds of dollars each month? What for???? If that was true I would start looking for a new provider. It is not fair, zion, to say, that I don't care about money, because I don't host the websites. Truth is: I care for my friends, who offer all of us a chance to do what we like to do, make a website about fanedits and talk about it. I don't know how you treat places your friends pay for.

Why don't you look up how much a Windows/ColdFusion-based dedicated server costs per month. And while your at it, why don't you look up how torrent sites work. Those terrabytes of traffic don't even go through the server. That's why they call it peer-to-peer. Sure, your showcase site and PHP-based forums can be hosted on a $10 per month bargain-basement shared hosting plan. But you simply cannot do that with a site that gets as much traffic as this place. If you think the only people who use this site are the ones logged in, think again.
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#234754
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234754/action/topic#234754
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Originally posted by: netgurucr
Zion & MeBeJedi, If you had to choose your two favorite softwares for this proyect, which ones would they be and why? Thanks

Probably Discreet Combustion and Adobe Premiere. Those are the two programs that we're using the most. Combustion is used for the frame by frame cleanup, as you've probably seen in the web doc. Premiere is used for editing the shots together from the different sources, and for color correction. AviSynth and VirtualDubMod are also huge players though.
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#234751
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234751/action/topic#234751
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I think this whole thing comes down to a misunderstanding. Boon claims that he and his "associates" took Jay's offer to host your site as some sort of issue of control. But at the same time, your new forum makes you look like you're trying to compete with OT.com.

To be honest, when Dayv first showed me the site a day or two after it went up, I didn't know what to think. Dayv talked about it as a "sister site" to OT.com, but if that was your intention, why start a large forum with topics about preservations, Star Wars, Star Trek, and Sci-Fi? You can't expect us to take that in any other way than you're trying to compete with OT.com.

Boon, you assume Jay is talking about money as if his only goal is to profit off of this site and fanedits.com. Like Jay's some sort of Phillip Wise TFN mogul who doesn't even know anything about the fanbase and is only in it for the money. This is far from the truth and you know it. Jay throws the money issue into the equation as an experienced webmaster should. By throwing up a web site and a forum on someone else's server, I hardly expect you to know anything about what it costs to run a site with as much traffic as OT.com. But Jay does, and he knows that this site costs hundreds per month just for hosting costs alone. As one of the admins of this new web site, you should understand things like this. It's not about charging people for admission, it's about being able to pay for the privelege of having your web site online every month. Just ask Xavier over on MySpleen how important money is.

This whole situation is rubbing everyone the wrong way. It's unfortunate that things like this happen, but it is inevitable as the evolution of our community comes to pass.
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#234354
Topic
NFL PRE-SEASON
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234354/action/topic#234354
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Not the best performance by the Broncos. Mike Bell fumbled, the second team defense got torn apart everytime they blitzed, and the 3rd team offensive line was horrible.

On the plus side, Jay Cutler looked anything but a rookie quarterback. He was solid, poised, and made all of his throws look easy. He also made the receivers around him look good, like rookie tight end Tony Scheffler and former Lion David Kircus. I'm very surprised at Cutler's performance, and I'm guessing that Leinart and Young aren't going to look as good in their debuts. I guess we'll see next week when the Broncos face the Titans.