Your argument is invalid.
It’s a film.
It’s all semantics.
No. It’s called having a difference of opinion. Shame you can’t tell the difference between the two.
OK. Now I understand.
The HS isn’t even a film.
IMDb considers it a film. Rotten Tomatoes considers it a film. Wikipedia considers it a film.
It’s a film.
Wrong. Wikipedia considers it a “musical television film”. IMDB considers it a “TV movie”. Rotten Tomatoes doens’t use the words “film” nor “movie”, but “television”.
Hollywood Report considers it a “show”. House Next Door considers it a “nightmare vision” (which is probably the best word to describe it).
MalàStrana is definitely right, you are trolling.
Are you trolling? Yes you are.
I don’t have a Ebay account so report the shit out of this guy https://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Despecialized-Original-Trilogy-Blu-ray-Box-Set-Documentaries/263279694188?hash=item3d4cb1516c:g:2S0AAOSwJJVZuCH0
I reported this shit a few minutes ago.
Neither the OT nor the EU were butchered to conform to the Holiday Special or include “holidayisms”, so your argument is invalid.
- Bea Arthur is canonical now: http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/10/24/a-character-from-the-star-wars-holiday-special-is-canon-now
That’s not in the OT.
- Death of Chief Bast aboard the Death Star needs to be reconsidered, as he appeared in SWHS a year later.
That’s not in the OT.
- Kashyyyk, as shown in SWHS (and drawn by Ralph McQuarrie), eventually appeared in ROTS.
That’s not in the OT.
- According to “The Visual Dictionary of Star Wars, Episode III”, Itchy appeared in ROTS.
That’s not in the OT.
- Lumpa appeared in several EU literature, and Waroo is a canonical character since Aftermath: Empire’s End.
That’s not in the OT.
- many other references to SWHS have been made in the EU (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Holiday_Special#Canonicity_of_the_special, “later appearances”).
That’s not in the OT.
So it seems that both OT and EU include several mentions to SWHS
None of that was in the OT.
Dear ray_afraid, DuracellEnergized wrote “Neither the OT nor the EU”.
“nor the EU”.
I repeat : “nor the EU”.
“nor the EU”.
“nor the EU”.
So I gave some examples of EU that include “holidayisms” (his word).
BTW, death of Chief Bast aboard the Death Star IS in the OT. Boba Fett IS in the OT. According to John Doom, Kashyyyk IS mentioned in the OT.
JEDIT: and Frink is right: HS is not even a film.
$1000 for Harmy’s work ???
Is it a joke ?
The HS isn’t even a film.
Totally agree, but it is ranked by DuracellEnergizer in a topic called “Ranking the Star Wars films”…
Neither the OT nor the EU were butchered to conform to the Holiday Special or include “holidayisms”, so your argument is invalid.
So it seems that both OT and EU include several mentions to SWHS, and pose some problems that required a revision or a later explanation, such as Chief Bast’s death or Itchy in a catamaran…
Can not we agree that any SW movie that contains the word “special” is bad and/or unclassifiable?
What???
Leia is Luke’s sister???
WTF!
Sorry, didn’t know the rule where to have an emotionally satisfying story, you must know every characters’ parents. Thanks for the heads up, will not make this mistake again.
Of course! Think about “The Young and the Restless”: we know every details about parents, children, lovers, sisters, brothers, hidden cousins, colleagues, neighbors and dogs.
THAT is what I call an emotionally satisfying story. And there is more than 20 000 episodes! So much better than this tiny weak story about a “Force” whom I don’t even know the last name…
Well, I don’t forget the PT exists and I enjoy watching it (even if it doesn’t achieve the quality of OT)…
And still, I don’t understand why Christensen’s face would be a better logical choice than Shaw’s face.
Between 1983 and 2004, the apparition of Shaw has not bothered anyone, everyone understood he obviously was Anakin and NOBODY never said, before 2004: "Hey, it’s not logical."
I was 9 in 1983, and I didn’t have to ask to my father “Hey, who is this ghost next to Obi Wan ?”. He was the ghost of Anakin, and it was obvious because I already saw Shaw’s face 5 minutes before, when Anakin died in Luke’s hands.
I do not understand how replacing Shaw with Christensen in 2004 could make more sense of something that made perfect sense without this change …
In addition to ger-el’s message, there are may other versions of the unaltered movies (16mm preservation by Puggo Grande, LaserDisc preservations, VHS preservations…), which have a true historical interest and are very enjoyable, but are less “comfortable” to watch if you just want to have a theatrical-like experience.
IMHO, if you just want to enjoy the unaltered movies with good image and sound, the best choices are :
You can find all versions on MySpleen, Usenet or some public torrents.
Sometimes the fact that these discussions are even possible makes me hate the SE more than not having an official OUT makes me hate the SE.
+1
I love big arse tiff files.
Yeepie (again)!
Merci pour ton travail!!! Je voulais savoir comment on fais pour t’envoyer un MP!
Merci Encore! 😃
Tu cliques sur le nom du profil à qui veux t’adresser, puis sur le bouton “start a private topic” (commencer un sujet privé).
Yeepie!
Phantom menace was a cut negative, but since most of the film went through some form of digital manipulation, its mostly 2K filmouts.
According to IMDB, TMP was processed through a 2k DI: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/technical?ref_=tt_ql_dt_7
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Dude, drop it
You’re right! I’ll try 😃
But here’s the problem: generally neither you should think that, since you don’t like something, everyone should agree 100% with you and that you should dismiss the others’ opinions like they are fooling themselves.
I don’t want to get into a debate about it being objectively bad vs. subjectively bad (which has been done in this thread many times already), I’ll just leave things there.
So your opinion is objective, mine is subjective…
You are allmighty Frink.
Thank you MalàStrana and John Doom!
Actually, this topic would be retitled as “Ranking the Star Wars films, but only in a single way where you cannot propose your own ranking if it differs from some very active members of OT”…
To be fair, I barely play video games anymore, so when I call AOTC and ROTS video game movies I’m mainly referring to the cutscene-quality plastic-ish look they have…mainly due to how much they are filmed either entirely in a computer or on soundstages with nothing more than platforms and greenscreens.
Rogue 1 looks much more real.
I agree (except for Lea and Tarkin)!
But I prefer the story of AOTC and ROTS (with politics, romance, treasons, even if it is badly told) than R1 where there is basically no story at all.