Actually, I don’t play Battlefront either, but I’ll ask to my friend.
Anyway, Battlefront, Myst or even Zelda and SuperMario, you see what I mean…
I just cannot comprehend how someone can complain that R1 is the video game movie of the group and also claim to have watched both AOTC and ROTS.
Please don’t tell me that CGI-Lea and CGI-Tarkin don’t look like videogame characters…
Anyway, visually speaking, AOTC et ROTS looks like an old video game, I don’t disagree.
My point is that if we talk about the scenario (and not about the visual aspect), R1 is a long and boring linear “shoot them up” game, especially the last battle (where is the big button to transmit the plans ? How, here it is !)
Edit : PS: A friend told me that he liked R1 because it reminded him “Battlefront”…
Do you think you can convince people that ROTS wasn’t awful?
Well, he doesn’t have to convince me, because I’m already convinced 😃 .
IMHO, ROTS is NOT a great movie at all, you’re totally right. But it is not a huge disaster either, I enjoyed it and it is still better (for me) than AOTC, ROTJ (die Ewoks, die) and this video-game called Rogue One.
There is a French proverb that says “les goûts et les couleurs, ça ne se discute pas”…
(“tastes and colors cannot be argued”)
I send you the best thoughts from Belgium
I know my ranking is not orthodox, but here it is:
I hope that TLJ will figure in pole position…
[Edit: I forgot R1 in my initial post]
I also wish all the characters in star wars didn’t know each other.
At least George Lucas didn’t know his characters anymore when he wrote the Prelogy…
Great news!
I can get - and share - a capture of this Spielberg doc.
Could you tell me at what moment the crawl does appear?
Isn’t that a false comment made by the seller himself?
I love how he claims the Despecialized blu ray is a free gift. I obviously don’t like these sorts of sellers, but I have to give him props; its a clever gambit.
Well, for 75 USD, you get the box set of 3 THX laserdiscs (OT) + TPM Laserdisc. Both are collectors and sell by other ebuyers for much more than 75 USD.
So I can believe that the Despecialized Blu-Ray is really a free gift in this case.
It is the first time that I see someone on eBay who doesn’t sell the Despecialized Edition, but gives it if you buy something else. I should not report him…
GREAT NEWS!
Thank you very much Poita!
I’ll be looking for people to help look for missing frames, and scanning errors etc. and will need help aligning the DTS tracks to the scans and other fun stuff.
Hi Poita,
You can count on me for finding missing frames: I have a rough cut of my current work-in-progress project (TPM theatrical reconstruction) and I’m pretty sure that I have a video montage with no missing frame (by merging several sources: Althor’s LD, my own LD, ORF1 PAL broadcast, C+ PAL capture and Malaysian VCD). After several months on this project, I think that I know all the frames by heart!
I’m obviously ready to help for DTS aligning too.
Is it John Williams who made the arrangements for the music of this trailer?
I know that the score of TLD is composed by him, but what about this trailer ?
I feel that it sounds like a cross between GoT and Battlestar Galactica, with arrangements quite unrelated to what John Williams does habitually. Here, I hear lot of rhythmic violins on a ryhtmic in 3 times quite classical, imposing percussions (drums, bass drums, timpani and cymbals on almost every bounce), quite simple theme played with the brass without any dissonance or change of tone in an heretical way, as he usually does …
I don’t dislike it, but I find that it is very unusual in the work of John Williams.
AOTC was filmed at 1.4K, not 2K… or at least much of it was. The HDCAM tapes could only record 1080p at 3:1:1 subsampling which is a luma resolution of 1440x1080 (which was cropped to 1440x818), and a chroma resolution of 480x270.
As far as I know, the cams used for AOTC were Sony CineAlta HDW-F900 with Panavision lenses (so called “Panavision HD-900F”), with 1920x1080 effective pixels and 10bits/sample (but 8 bits for compression processing).
You are right about the tapes limitations: the HDCAM tapes were Sony BCT-HD, which provided 2 332 800 samples by frame (=> 2K), divided into 1440x1080 samples on Y channel, 720x540 samples on Cb and 720x540 on Cr. But the HDCAM codec used rectangular pixels, so the recorded 1440×1080 content was eventually upsampled to 1920×1080 on playback.
IIRC, it’s the night scene outside the slave quarters where Qui Gon gets the blood sample from Anakin.
Right!
And IIRC, that explains why this particular shot has a totally different contrast level on BR than on theatrical 35mm: it was the only scene digitally re-rendered for the BluRay without going through a 35mm scan.
Double post
Of memory, all scenes of TPM were analogically filmed with Arriflex lenses except for one scene shooted directly in HDCAM.
90% of the film was processed digitally, which leaves still 10% of “natural” scenes, but the entire film was processed through a Digital Intermediate at 2K (but Poita’s remark is quite relevant).
Eventually, there were 2 final masters : one Kodak 35mm and one TI at 1280x1024.
The first LD/DVD/HDTV master was made from InterPositive ; the last BR master was made with a new scan directly from the 35mm master, fully scene by scene color-regraded.
On the other hand, AOTC and ROTS were digitally filmed with Sony cams at 2K.
I’ll try to find the exact information tonight.
I didn’t know anything about that, thank you for this very interesting link!
I think I can fine the answer in my files (I keep all technical articles about TPM), but not before tonight in Europe.
how did this happen?
On the other hand, if you pay on eBay, you receive a beautiful package with a box, inner sleeves and beautifully printed blurays.
I am obviously outraged that people get paid on eBay for the volunteer and free work of other people like Harmy, Poita, Adywan or DrDre. No one should claim $ 100 on eBay for Harmy’s work, it is not fair. And I’m happy to be a (young new) member of this forum, where I can learn a lot of things about SW, and share my passion with people who are, for the most part, extremely sympathetic.
But I understand why many people end up finding eBay easier than this particular forum …
If there was a 16mm scope TPM out there, I’d be amazed.
Actually, it seems that a 16mm scope TPM really exists: http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=001666
If there is another forum where there might be more TPM fans, let me know, if people really want this film preserved, then I am all for it.
I’m pretty sure some people from https://forum.fanres.com/ will be interested too!
spOrv, what do you think?
There are now dozen of people that sell the Despecialized Edition, see what Google finds:
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&safe=off&q=star+wars+despecialized+bluray+-originaltrilogy.com&oq=star+wars+despecialized+bluray+-originaltrilogy.com
You’ll find eBayers, YouTubers, iOfferers…
I hope we’ll achieve the needed amount to allow the scan to be made.
It seems that some people commit to donate something, but not immediately. What is the deadline ?
Should not this thread be moved to “How-To’s and Technical Discussions”?