ZigZig

I think that TPM desserves to be watched in its theatrical version: all that was boring in theaters is even more boring on Blu-ray (the podrace, which was already very long in theaters, is now endless; the added taxi scene just gives you more of Jar Jar; CGI-Yoda adds more videogame-like CGI air to the movie…).
But the only current way to see the theatrical version of TPM is a Laserdisc preservation or Adywan’s reconstruction (which is not in HD, and contains some minor oversights).

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

NeverarGreat said:
On the other hand, I’m really liking the look of Ahch-To in TLJ.

On the other hand, TLJ seems to be a visual achievement.

I love proclamations based on trailers. They may turn out to be right but they often aren’t and so making them is quite silly.

seems (not “is going to be”)

Anyway, you’re just trolling anyone who has faith in Episode VIII.

Well, I have faith in Episode VIII, but I shouldn’t compare a trailer to a full movie. And I enjoyed Episode VII a lot.
Who is trolling here ?

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

NeverarGreat said:
On the other hand, I’m really liking the look of Ahch-To in TLJ.

On the other hand, TLJ seems to be a visual achievement.

I love proclamations based on trailers. They may turn out to be right but they often aren’t and so making them is quite silly.

I totally agree. By nature, trailers only show the most visually successful scenes. How could we deduce something from it, or compare it to a complete movie?

TV’s Frink said:

I’m sorry Wook but I can’t let this go.

ZigZig said:

IMHO, Mary Sue or not, the most interesting thing is that the hero of the new trilogy is a woman, not a man, isn’t it ?

Absolutely! And it was long overdue.

Discussing about her “Marysueness” and about the derogatory aspect or not of this word, is it not already a mysogynous act?

No. Calling out a misogynistic term for being misogynistic is not a misogynistic act. That’s ridiculous.

You forgot the next sentence where I tried to explain my point of view.
Which is maybe ridiculous to you, thank you for your honesty.
I PM you if you want to continue this discussion, as Wook asked to stop it in this thread.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

Yep, one frame over an entire movie (and always the same one being used…). Do you know EpIII is not an album but a movie with 24 frames per second ?

That’s one of the very few things that qualifies it as a movie. Maybe even the only thing.

Wait so animated films aren’t movies?

Oh yes, I can not wait to discover this new lesson about nuances of English vocabulary …

SilverWook said:

I have specifically asked that the Mary Sue talk should stop. Thank you!

Sorry, I didn’t see your post in this very long thread.
My apologies! Feel free to remove my previous post.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

It is for me. Most of them are above Rogue One, mainly because I find that movie utterly tedious, with all the boring characters, especially Jyn, who is the most bland protagonist in any Star Wars film.

I agree!

About the long discussion about Mary Sue, It is probably very interesting, albeit a bit boring and hermetic for someone like me whose mother tongue is not English, to read 67 messages that digress subtleties of the English language in a thread name “ranking the SW films”…

IMHO, Mary Sue or not, the most interesting thing is that the hero of the new trilogy is a woman, not a man, isn’t it ? Discussing about her “Marysueness” and about the derogatory aspect or not of this word, is it not already a mysogynous act ? I mean, while we discuss vocabulary, we do not speak about the most interesting fact: the main character of the new trilogy is a female character, as only 28% of current movies (according to Annenberg report for Women in Film)… After that, is her character subtly constructed or not, that’s another question…

[TROLL=ON]Jar Jar Binks is a Gary Stu[TROLL=OFF]

Ok but only if you have special shower sandals that are only used when you take a shower. I mean you must remove your sandals directly after your shower. And you may not use the same sandals if you take a bath.
Well, at least it is the rule in Belgium, we are very strict with sandals and showers.

As you can clearly hear here, Jar Jar Binks wears thongs: https://youtu.be/iIbv3AOssr8?t=131
(JEDIT: actually, he used to wear thongs, but it seems that he lost them).

Possessed said:
Are thongs and sandals the same thing? I’m totally lost here.

Thongs are to sandals what VCDs are to Blu-Ray.

Possessed said:

HerekittykittyX said:

ZigZig said:

Possessed said:

(…) because you seem to be confusing bluray and vcd. Understandable since they are practically the same thing.

WHAT??? Blu-Ray and VCD are not the same thing???

VCD is a video CD blu ray is a completely different format

All the evidence I’ve seen indicates that they are the same

Otherwise Blu-Ray would be blue, wouldn’t it?

HerekittykittyX said:

ZigZig said:

Possessed said:

(…) because you seem to be confusing bluray and vcd. Understandable since they are practically the same thing.

WHAT??? Blu-Ray and VCD are not the same thing???

VCD is a video CD blu ray is a completely different format
So if I were you I would wait for the digitized version the 35 mm prints of the special edition

I was joking about ZodaEX’s mistake. Nevermind, we are all banned now.

TV’s Frink said:

Anyone who saw the behind the scenes doc on TPM, watched the three kids they test screened, and then watched them pick the worst one of the three, and still defends how Anakin was portrayed…sorry, no.

I like TPM and I’m so sorry to say that but… you are right!

chyron8472 said:

If that is true, why visit a forum specifically dedicated to Star Wars (and especially to the original Original Trilogy)?

As far as I’m concerned, I think that I’m a huge SW fan (I even like the prelogy), and I think that ANH and ESB are two of the most accomplished, personal, influential and yet successful movies in the history of cinema. So I think I have good reasons to visit this forum.
But I don’t like ROTJ at all, I could even say that I hate this movie. Not because of the story or the characters, but because of the way it was scripted, filmed and directed. But I remain a fan of the entire story (from episode 1 to 7).
Just like I love my wife, except for 3 days a month…

oojason said:

dahmage said:

oojason said:

I thought they’d have some sort of safety switch on them too? - y’know, just in case one of these things accidentally gets brushed or touched and the Jedi loses his leg or something…

Do they have a safety switch?

Oh my, that picture is hilarious. Obi-Wan just had to be thinking that Luke was a complete idiot.

It was that pic or this one…

😃

You made my day!

I dream to read one day a comic book (Legends or Canon) that you will have drawn!

And again…

BTW, 2 days ago, French Prime Minister said that his favorite episode was TPM: http://lelab.europe1.fr/edouard-philippe-considere-la-menace-fantome-comme-le-meilleur-star-wars-et-cest-un-scandale-3491315

Possessed said:

(…) because you seem to be confusing bluray and vcd. Understandable since they are practically the same thing.

WHAT??? Blu-Ray and VCD are not the same thing???

The Force is strong with this one.

crissrudd4554 said:

ZodaEX said:

yotsuya said:

ZodaEX said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Released on laser and VHS only. Harmy has a 720p recreation, I think.

That is not true because they were also released on VCD.

VCD’s are SD only. As far as I know, G’kar and TB (and Revivax for ANH) are only in widescreen SD… 480p, and even then not full DVD quality. Upscaling them doesn’t do much. I’ve tried. You can coax a little more out of them, but not 720p (though presenting in at that resolution does produce the best results, it still isn’t DVD quality).

What does that have to do with my claim that the 97 Special Edition was released on Blu-Ray? Your response has nothing to do with what I said.

You claimed they were on VCD.

Maybe ZodaEX is talking to himself…

Keep calm and don’t use drugs 😉

Anakin Starkiller said:
However, I find it hard to believe Luke would never have seen actual pictures of him.

Actually, I find it hard to believe Luke would ever have seen actual pictures of Anakin. He didn’t even know that Vader was his father, his uncle carefully hid this information, and the only pictures that could exist of Hayden-Anakin belong to Padme, who died years ago on another planet where Luke never set foot.

But I respect your opinion, as nor Shaw-without-scars nor Hayden are a fully satisfying choice. I just think that Shaw is less unlogical than Hayden.

Anakin Starkiller said:

it’s a significantly smaller leap of logic to accept the Shaw ghost as Anakin Skywalker

I don’t see how it makes more sense for him to appear in a form he never had than one he did.

With that kind of logic, his ghost could have the form of young Jake Lloyd when he was pure light force made by midichlorians…

Seriously, I cannot understand how Hayden’s face would be more logical than Shaw’s one.

John Doom said:

John Doom said:

[…] Not sure about Kashyyyk, but IIRC it was already considered as a setting for the original SW or mentioned in Chewie’s background.

ray_afraid said:

ZigZig said:

According to John Doom, Kashyyyk IS mentioned in the OT.

That’s not in the OT.

Well, I didn’t say it is actually mentioned in the movies, just that I remember it was mentioned in the scripts. So today I checked everywhere to find the source of this rumor and found this essay on the development of the Star Wars script:

http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/the-development-of-star-wars-as-seen-through-the-scripts-by-george-lucas/

Chewbacca (now with the nickname “Chewie”) is “an eight-foot-tall-savage-looking creature resembling a huge bushbaby monkey with fierce baboon-like fangs. His large blue eyes dominate a fur-covered face and soften his otherwise awesome appearance.” 140

With his production paintings, Ralph McQuarrie had convinced Lucas to soften the two-hundred-year-old Wookiee’s frightening features and eliminate his clothes, leaving the two chrome bandoliers. 141

Beside the script, Lucas constructed a detailed culture for the Wookiees. They live in giant trees (just like the “Ewoks” in Return of the Jedi) on their homeworld Kashyyyk, and they have their own version of the Force based on their empathy with plant life. Their most sacred custom is the life debt, which Wookiees pledge to those who save their lives. When Chewbacca was saved from Imperial slavetraders by Han Solo, he pledged a life debt to Han, and now he travels with his saviour in order to carry out his sacred obligations. 142 (See also Appendix, p. 54.)

Very interesting, thank you for having found this source!

DuracellEnergizer said:

I see nothing in the thread title about the films having to be theatrical.

DuracellEnergizer said:

IMDb considers it a film. Rotten Tomatoes considers it a film. Wikipedia considers it a film.

It’s a film.

DuracellEnergizer said:
And yeah, semantics. That is what it is. Only pedants make an issue of it.

Well, we finally agree.