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<em>The Mandalorian</em> - Season One Discussion - * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *

Sifo Dyas said:

DominicCobb said:

Sifo Dyas said:

canofhumdingers said:

Yeah, we know. We’ve discussed it all already. Shogun Assassin is just a film compiled from parts of the first two Lone Wolf and Cub films, edited together for American theatrical release. Magnificent Seven is just “reused material” (to quote you) from Seven Samurai set in the American West rather than Feudal Japan.

Did you know Star Wars (1977) is just a bunch of standard hero and myth tropes jumbled together with a bit of fantasy, western, and samurai genres all blended together? Did you know Fistful of Dollars is just a spaghetti western remake of Yojimbo? Things reuse ideas from previous things. Omg! There’s a reason the word “tropes” exits…

The issue is, how well does THIS media execute those ideas? I thought episode 5 was possibly the weakest so far. I still liked it, but it definitely had some issues with the casting and maybe the directing imo. I still think episode 2 and 3 were the high point so far but this is still a very fun series! I’m sad we’ve got only, what, two more to go this season?

I didn’t know about this Yojimbo film, but I guess for a good reason.

If you reuse something you should make it better, as all of those pictures you mentioned here did.

What makes you think that’s true? If you’ve never, by your own admission, even heard of them? Because I assure you it is not.

I literally said I did not hear about Yojimbo.
It means I heard about all the others.
What the hell you smokin?
Own admission?
Can you even read properly?

You say the Magnificent seven is not better then the Seven Samurai?
That Star Wars is not better then the Hidden Fortress?
Wow. Ok. Good bye.

Don’t forget your ‘case’, and to also cancel your subscription to Disney+ yet again 😉

Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *

Ugh - Jason Ward, MSW and the supposed leaks… 😃

‘Star Wars: Colin Trevorrow Debunks Alleged Rey Origin Story in Rise of Skywalker’:-


I remember Jason Ward from the way back - If I remember correctly he got found out pretending to be a female fan in a bid try and lure gullible male fans to his site? (or did get one of his wives to do it for him? I can’t remember!)

He would gladly bash on Star Wars fans (“I hate them with a passion”) and attempt to start feuds with other sites to stir up drama and get clicks and people to visit his site. Was this place one? Or with a few people connected on here back then?

Jedit - From


Now it appears he may be getting desperate and trying to get as many hits and revenues as he can before TROS comes out in a couple of weeks and his traffic dwindles - even contradicting himself from day to day in his new articles and ‘leaks’, according to some.

I’m quite surprised some members on here have taken him at his word. Sure, he may have obtained or got sent the leaks from the trailers and tv spots some time ago, and filled in some gaps from the books and obvious story links… but anything else? Clickbait. A Supershadow type for the modern internet - for me, anyway.

Please delete or edit if I have gone a little too far mods 😃

The future of - UPDATE: Please donate!

“political dissidents”?

We must save them from their oppresive masters and restore their freedom!

Oh, you mean the guy who told the site owner to go kill himself?

The other who bitched at the site owner repeatedly over considerable time - still bitches about this place and the community here in general on FE (the moderators on there remove his posts - to keep the peace?)

And the other, a bully who never believed he was wrong in spreading drama and shit all over the forums, derailing threads, and acted like he owned the place? All those requests and warnings must have been for someone else?

You mean those “political dissidents”?

They are not “political dissisents” - they are people who acted like entitled idiots and got what they deserved.

At least the young kid admits it was right he was banned for his part and shows some maturity and responsibility.

Sorry for derailing the thread further, mods. It had to be said. Am sure others disagree - and will continue to harp on about this for years to come. Oh the inhumanity of it all!

The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread - * <strong>TROS SPOILERS WITHIN</strong> *

Vladius said:

oojason said:

Vladius said:

oojason said:

EddieDean said:

Sorry if I’ve not been up with recent discussions, but what was broken about Holdo’s hair being purple?

Nothing mate.

Though some may want to tackle it as a technical challenge / exercise (apparently it is quite a difficult, labour-intensive task to to do - and get right).

Others don’t like the Holdo character and wish to make changes to her.

An aesthetic choice - some seemingly don’t like (through to some not being able to stand) people having purple hair in their Star Wars space opera / fantasy films.

A few have problems that the purple hair meant that the Holdo character was a lesbian; an oft-mentioned comment when making racist, sexist, homophobic or other derogatory comments on other female characters in the Sequels too.

I like to think most on here doing this change for Edits see it as an aesthetic choice or a technical exercise / challenge…

I think it’s really dishonest to reduce anyone who doesn’t like The Last Jedi to a bunch of politically motivated epithets like “racist,” “sexist,” “homophobic,” etc.

I suggest you read my post again - because I am not sure how you claim to that conclusion based on what I wrote.

“A few have problems that the purple hair meant that the Holdo character was a lesbian; an oft-mentioned comment when making racist, sexist, homophobic or other derogatory comments on other female characters in the Sequels too.”

You said “a few,” but you also said, “oft-mentioned,” and I have zero trust in you or others like you to make the distinction. You’ve defended Johnson for his fan bashing several times. “Oh no, he just doesn’t like the bad ones.” That’s nonsense. It’s essentially a political divide, and I think it’s fine to acknowledge that openly.

“Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.”

ooJason has posted articles on here highlighting the fact that Rian Johnson has indeed called out the toxic fans - sexists, racists, homophobes and people who issue death threats etc; and that Rian Johnson has no problem with fans simply voicing their dislike of the movie.

Rian Johnson is on record saying exactly this - he has no problem with fans who simply don’t like the movie.

You continue to deny this, and accuse others with present any facts yourself, and also conintue to derail the thread with comments you have been repeatedly told are more suited to other more apt formus of the site. And you continue further!

Seems ooJason somehow triggered you when you said “I think it’s really dishonest to reduce anyone who doesn’t like The Last Jedi to a bunch of politically motivated epithets like “racist,” “sexist,” “homophobic,” etc.” - which you know full well what he was not referring to that.

Going on your post history here I can see why you did try to claim it given your attitude to women in film. Yet when you make up quotes, continue to derail this thread, ignore moderator requests to stop, and try bullshit your way with accusations on others, taking their posts way of context, attack others in here… it only refelcts poorly on yourself. And also others who may agree with you.

Like many of your kind, you are a coward. A sexist who hides behind feeble excuses, and will say anything to continue your transparent agenda here.

Man, I don’t like the purple hair or the Holdo character that much - and am glad the fan editors here are coming up with many choices for fans to watch different versions of many films here - but I am more glad to be nothing like you. You are toxic about it.

I hope more people call you out on your actions here. This place is one of the least toxic places online and that is why I love it. I’d hate it to become like other places filled with toxic views and people like you. You’ve already tried to ruin this thread.

Sorry mods. Rant over.

Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *

bromeo said:

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker | “Duel” TV Spot

Not gonna lie… hearing Duel of the Fates gave me goosies right away.

I enjoyed watching that - though it seems Palpatine’s lines may have been recorded for trailer (or other promos) - and not from the actual film itself?

I am probably wrong - it just seemed a little ‘off’ (and it is just a short tv spot afterall).

Doctor Who

alleycat said:

In case anyone missed this:

The Daleks are back! In black and white, and on YouTube! The metal monsters are once again menacing secret service agents from Earth on the planet Kembel, in a recreation of a Doctor Who adventure not seen since 1965.

Using the original script, replica props, vintage TV methods and the contemporary voice of the Daleks, Nicholas Briggs, the missing episode Mission to the Unknown has been remade by film and media students at the University of Central Lancashire. The recreation premiered on the official BBC Doctor Who YouTube channel at 5:50pm on 9 October, exactly 54 years after the story was broadcast for the one and only time.

It is unique in the original Doctor Who series for being the only episode not to feature the Tardis, Doctor or any of his companions. Instead, it was a standalone story starring arch-enemies the Daleks, which acted as a prequel to a later 12-part adventure The Daleks’ Master Plan (and quite possibly, in the mind of Dalek creator Terry Nation, as a pilot for a Dalek spinoff series that never materialised.)

Would a Dalek spinoff have worked in 1965? On this evidence, yes.

The episode sets up a galactic war between humans and Daleks, and an undercover security force sent from Earth to thwart them. It introduces an alliance of alien races, who are determined to invade the solar system alongside the Daleks. You can easily imagine a multitude of further stories set in this universe.

It is probably the only Doctor Who episode that could be completely remade convincingly in this way. The lack of regular cast involvement means there’s nobody trying to imitate William Hartnell as the Doctor, and the characters of Marc Cory and Gordon Lowery (played by Marco Simioni and Dan Gilligan) get to establish themselves on their own basis over the 25 minutes.

Inevitably, given the source material, it is a bit stilted, stagey and even slapstick at points. But the recreation of the Daleks, and the way they are shot in stark black-and-white, is effective. The Kembel jungle and the dangerous Varga plants look comparable to 60s Doctor Who sets, and the Dalek death ray effect is true to the source. The storyline is quite slight, though, making this an interesting curiosity rather than a ‘must see’.

It says something about the mythical status of the missing Doctor Who episodes that what is essentially a student project has ended up getting a run-out on the BBC’s official YouTube channel.

There are still 97 episodes of 60s Doctor Who missing. They occasionally turn up, most recently in October 2013. However, Mission to the Unknown was never sold overseas, meaning there is virtually zero chance of it ever being found.

The production took five days in February 2019, and former Blue Peter presenter Peter Purves, who played the Doctor’s companion Steven in 1965, visited the set, saying: “This is an absolutely wonderful project. I can remember at the time that Bill Hartnell and I were a bit miffed not to be included in any way at all … but it was a nice week off in the end!”

from alleycat’s Doctor Who - Mission To The Unknown Remade thread in the Preservation of Other Properties forum 😃

I thought this was a good place for us Whovians to find this quality project too - I hope theis is okay and the mods don’t mind?

The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>

‘Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker Box Office Tracking for $175M-$200M U.S. Bow’:

I wonder if this will change again given there is now only 3 weeks to the release?

General Star Wars Documentaries (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)

The People vs. George Lucas:- - at the canonvids youtube channel. (a 2010 documentary. 93 mins)


"The People vs. George Lucas is a 2010 documentary film directed by Swiss director Alexandre O. Philippe. It explores the issues of filmmaking and fanaticism pertaining to the Star Wars franchise and its creator, George Lucas. The film combines filmmaker and celebrity interviews with fan films, mainly taken from the 2010 online video Star Wars Uncut, which were submitted via the film’s site.

Interviewees include a variety of figures such as Neil Gaiman, MC Frontalot and Gary Kurtz. Lucas appears frequently in archival footage, but is never interviewed directly. The film discusses the extent to which the Star Wars franchise is an artistic creation of Lucas and subject to his vision versus a social phenomenon that belongs to the general public of fans and their participatory/remix culture.

The film is dedicated to interviewee Jason Nicholl, a blogger at ‘nukethefridge’ website who died before the film’s release."

^ The documentary also seems to features a few people from this great place as well…

IMDB Page : Website - which is currently blank : Facebook Page thread 1 : thread 2 : thread 3 : thread 4 : thread 5

Starwars Disney+ edition vs Blu-rays and despecialized editions.

To me they appear a lot better than the blu-ray, but that would not be too difficult.

There is some conversation in this thread:-

which goes into detail about the colors.

And also a bit in here: - which is worth checking out as well.

Most pointless SE change?

^ from the linked article:-

Do you get notified when there’s going to be a new version of the scene? How did you hear about this version?

Mike Carter, who plays Bib Fortuna, the guy in Jabba’s palace with the strange long ears, he texted me and said, ‘MACLUNKEY!’ I said, ‘What the fuck are you talking about?’ He said, ‘New discovery! It could be as important as Howard Carter and the Tutankhamun tomb.’ I didn’t know what he was talking about for 10 minutes, until I had a look at the scene and thought, ‘Oh right, yeah.’ Disney or Lucasfilm, they’re the last people that ever inform us of anything really – unless it’s the lawyers, then we hear from them pretty quick.

I wonder if he said that last sentence with a smile on his face, or if he was serious? 😃

The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>

Please put me down for $245 million for the opening weekend, Rodney-2187.


RogueLeader said:

How should we handle situations where people bet the same numbers? Say if I do three prizes for opening, domestic, and worldwide, but two people got the right numbers for the opening (ie, $240M)? If it is a tie like that, maybe the tiebreaker can be whoever got the closer domestic/worldwide numbers.

You are far too kind and generous, RL. If in the unlikely event I did win any of the categories, please send any prize to your local hospital or favored charity of choice.

YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars finds

R2D2: Beneath the Dome’:- - a 2001 Documentary. 27 mins.


"R2-D2: Beneath the Dome is a 2001 American ‘mockumentary’ style short, directed by Don Bies and Spencer Susser, starring Kenny Baker as R2-D2 in a fictionalized life story of the robot from the Star Wars film series.

The film, which was made as a fun project by the cast and crew of Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, based on an idea by Don Bies (ILM Modelmaker and head of the R2 production unit) and friends, features celebrity interviews, fake archive photos, film clips, and behind the scenes footage."


I am loving ZkinandBonez’ new YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy documentaries, making-ofs, promos, etc. thread - full of awesome documentaries and stuff - well worth checking out!