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#1388080
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Possible 'proof' that Greedo was always meant to shoot
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Fated-Dualist said:

It seems doubleofive got there first and saved it 😃

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1330530045547438080
 

The original tweet and claim by author Paul Duncan (which he later deleted):-

I don’t know where the heck he got the idea Greedo’s subtitles were added in 1983. They have always been in the movie since 1977.
Must be open season on bad info lately. I’ve seen claims elsewhere that Splinter Of The Mind’s Eye was going to be a tv-movie, and that the Ewok films were partially shot on video. No idea where this stuff is coming from…

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#1385001
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Richard Marquand's effect on Return of the Jedi
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Hoop28 said:

imperialscum said:

Hoop28 said:

So obviously Lucas had a much bigger presence during the making of Jedi than he did Empire, he was practically a Co-Director, but did Marquand leave any mark of his own on the film? I haven’t seen his other work so I can’t say, and I don’t know if Lucas has attempted to erase any sort of legacy Marquand had like he did so many others on the OT.

I think Marquand had pretty much the same role in ROTJ as Kershner had in ESB. In both cases Lucas led the creative part (story, characters, screenplay, world-building, etc.), while Kershner and Marquand led the implementation and contributed in various ways to the creative part. If you look at it like that, then Lucas was “practically a co-director” in both cases.

Like it was pointed out, Marquand had some important contributions to the creative part, besides directing the implementation. Like Kershner, I think he was a valuable part of the trilogy.

Well from what I heard, Lucas was annoyed with alot of the changes and alterations that Kershner made while directing Empire, so for Jedi he was on set way more than he was during Empire and reshot quite a few scenes, apparently the whole reason Jedi was filmed in the United States was so Lucas could be on set daily.

They still filmed at Elstree in the UK. Endor exteriors being shot in Northern California close to Lucasfilm may have been a happy accident. Tunisia might have presented too many problems, as that part of the world was a bit more dangerous by 1982.

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#1384776
Topic
Current Events. No debates!
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jedi_bendu said:

I don’t even live in America, but I was shamelessly playing ‘Victory Celebration’ on repeat today. Trump was sounding like an Emperor Palpatine figure himself this year, and it’s been the closest the US has ever come to fascism. Workers have been hurt by tax cuts favouring the wealthy and repeals in healthcare, the world has backtracked on progress combatting climate change, and closet racists have felt emboldened enough to become nastier and nastier. Finally, all the people who felt afraid or anxious for the last four years can breathe a sigh of relief.

And yes, I’m aware Trump can do whatever he wants in his final months in office, but that’s something to worry about tomorrow.

You used a SE shot? Really? 😛

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#1384612
Topic
The Matrix - Laserdisc Preservation opportunity - "Help Needed"
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jisan said:

Brand new to the group. Interesting … I own the MATRIX LD in question (plus about 5000+ others LDs). and I never quite understood the fascination with that particular disc, although I knew it was a limited pressing. I never bought the Pioneer RF Convertor for my CLD-704, so I can’t really attest to it’s sound quality, though it sounds great without the added equipment. My (3) CLD-704s are mothballed currently, as I haven’t found a competent repair facility, but I’ll give it a whirl tonight on my DVL-909.

PS. Never heard of the “open-mat” HK version, though. I’m kind of a “my cold dead hands” type, so please don’t ask … sorry. I won’t part with any piece of my collection. In hindsight, I wish I had bought a spare.

Are you on the LDDB forum? You can probably find info there about LD player repairs in the 21st century.

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#1384333
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Richard Marquand's effect on Return of the Jedi
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Darth Dougal said:

Yoda wasn’t coming back originally? How on earth was that supposed to work story-wise?

I would need to check in the book (easier said than done, it’s pretty dense) but I think Yoda’s mention of the other Skywalker would just be folded into Obi-Wan’s dialogue - and the Luke/Obi Wan discussion would not happen on Dagoba. IIRC the idea was for Obi Wan to tell Luke that Yoda was now one with the Force.

I’m not sure if this script development took place before or after talk about the Force ghosts of Yoda and Obi Wan appearing during Luke’s duel with Vader. Not to mention the two Death Stars!

Back to the OP - I found an interview with Marquand that relates to your question:

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/richard-marquand-interview-return-of-the-jedi-star-wars/

Yoda dying off camera and never being seen again would have been pretty lame. In the original making of ESB book, Lucas laments he couldn’t shoot a scene for Jedi during production on ESB, as there was the issue of saving and storing the Dagobah set for the next film. What he had in mind either had not been written yet, or the need to finish ESB took precedence.

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#1384214
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Richard Marquand's effect on Return of the Jedi
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Darth Dougal said:

Marquand had plenty of input. Check out J.W. Rinzler’s book on the making of the film.

Perhaps the most important decisions he made were to cast Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine and to bring back Yoda. He also had his choice of Director of Photography and editor - hopefully the different look and pacing of ROTJ compared to the previous two films is apparent.

One of the highlights of Rinzler’s book is a transcript of a conversation between Lucas, Marquand and Larry Kasdan. Most of it comprises an argument between Lucas and Kasdan - you get the impression Marquand is listening patiently and then suddenly he cuts in and chides them for their behaviour. No mere servant.

It’s clear that Marquand was ‘inexperienced’ (being kind) or ‘out of his depth’ (being harsh) regarding the Star Wars shooting method, which in the early 80s was still unusual and more technically demanding than other franchises like Bond or Star Trek. But he was not inexperienced when it came to dealing with actors, as he had been one himself. He also knew how to shoot quickly and economically - that, plus his willingness to relcoate to the US - made him an easy choice for director in Lucas’ eyes.

Yoda wasn’t coming back originally? How on earth was that supposed to work story-wise?

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#1383885
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Election Night 2020 channel on the OT discord
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We realize some of you might want to discuss current events with the historic U.S. election tomorrow night with your fellow OT members as opposed to more toxic venues on social media. To that end, we have created an election night channel on the discord server. Politics are allowed to be discussed there, and ONLY THERE!

This is an experiment. Whether such a channel becomes permanent depends on all of you. 😃

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#1383795
Topic
Info Wanted: THE FAMOUS VAMPIRE KILLERS - Versions? Workprint?
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lorang said:

Wouldn’t hold your breath on this one, one that might be better is the very hard to find US cut that did get limited TV play at some point in the US with trimmed scenes and overdubbed voices for some of the characters as well as the alternate animated opening.

I’d love to get hold of this version to upgrade via the Blu Ray footage and use the soundtrack.

Totally different take is Im working on my own edit of this as a B/W Silent movie but with font words sliced in like a silent movie but using soundtracks from mostly Hammer Movies and giving it an old movie feel and frame rate.

Currently on 24hr encode in Premier Pro for the picture before I start on the soundtrack.

I think that version ran on Elvira’s Movie Macabre back in 1982.

You should start a thread for your edit instead of posting in this one though.