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#611041
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The Empire Strikes Back is a "junk movie"
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adywan said:

Father Skywalker said:

Yes, but how do you know that moff tiaan jerjerrod was on it when it blew up?? Remember that the guys were evacuating on it at the ending; nothing ever confirmed whether or not grand moff tiaan jerjjerod escaped!!!!

Check the deleted scenes on the blu-ray. They were about to blow up the moon of Endor when the Death Star was destroyed, so no, he didn't escape

Wookieepedia.

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#611022
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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Oh yeah, that's right. My apologies. I knew it was one of them places and that England didn't feel quite right as I was typing it...

Irregardless.

I won't tell you what to do because I don't know the situation beyond what you've shared with us internet people, but I will say: Don't over-rationalize things if the situation continues to deteriorate; if it's bad, it's bad, and you deserve to be treated better. Don't hold on with the excuse of "well I've already invested so much time that it would be a waste to throw it all away" because you can only waste more time. Don't hold on with any excuses, really.

Work on becoming more financially independent if you can, and do try to get him some help if you believe he'll be receptive and willing because he really does need it, and I can tell you care a great deal for him, and if he cares for you then he'll be willing to make changes for the both of you and your relationship; but don't spend your life trying to change someone who isn't willing to change.

Matters of the heart are tough, especially when complexities are involved. I know them feels, bro.

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#610867
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The Empire Strikes Back is a "junk movie"
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Father Skywalker said:

My question is-why all of this hatred and dislike and cringe-worthy attiude towards Hayden Christensen????

Because he did a really poor job of making Anakin Skywalker likable in the Prequels. In fact, if anything, he made him downright unlikable. His acting was so poor in those films that they completely failed to live up the the high expectations the fans had of them compared to an amazing film like The Empire Strikes Back.

Obviously, Lucas' directing and writing has a lot to do with this, but Hayden Christensen's did not step up to the plate and give his best performance regardless of what Lucas gave him to work with, and his looks have absolutely nothing to do with the way anyone I've ever met feels about his portrayal of Anakin Skywalker.

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#610861
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What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself??
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Well the "Empire-as-Good" theory is just for fun or playing devil's advocate.

Star Wars as it stands alone is a very black-and-white film (which is proven in the opening scenes of Star Wars by the black contrast of the imposing, inhuman, armoured, obviously-evil Darth Vader against the stark white walls of the Tantive IV and the "soft", feminine, human, obviously-good Princess Leia in her white dress; because of that, you instantly know who's good and who's evil). It's very simple: the good guys are the good guys, and the bad guys are the bad guys. The good guys don't have to show remorse, because they're killing bad guys; it's like in movies where they kill Nazis, you don't have to show remorse, because Nazis are just evil, no other explanation is required.

Also there's really no cause for them to kill Owen and Beru, or to blow up Alderaan over some stolen plans; that's hardly an eye for an eye. Plus the Empire did the whole "Great Jedi Purge" thing which was pretty evil just to be evil, Anakin was murdering little children and stuff; that's not really a "good guy" thing to do.

Grey areas only enter into it when you get into the EU, but the films themselves are pretty cut-and-dried as far as who the good guys and bad guys are.

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#610859
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The Empire Strikes Back is a "junk movie"
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I did read your post, and I don't agree with it.

I cringe because I don't like the Prequels and his face reminds me of them, and the disappointment he was as Anakin Skywalker, and I don't want to think about the crappy Prequels when I'm watching the good Original Trilogy. Him being "pretty" doesn't enter into it; I'd rather it have been someone ugly who had played the part better (though this is largely the fault of Lucas being a bad writer/directer and relying too much on greenscreen instead of practical effects rather than Christensen's acting, which I have heard is at least passable in other films).

Regardless of that, the Anakin Skywalker I grew up seeing in Return of the Jedi was Sebastian Shaw, not Hayden Christensen.

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#610856
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What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself??
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I dunno. Vader didn't seem too impressed with the Death Star as compared to the Force, but then he had a lot of respect for Tarkin, and the Death Star was really the pinnacle of The Tarkin Doctrine of "Rule by Fear". I feel like he would have used them had he had access to them.

 

Luke refused Vader's offer to join him because he was a stronger person than Anakin was when the dark side came a-callin'. Though they did share similar attachments (Anakin's visions of Padme dying in childbirth; Luke's visions of his friends being tortured on Cloud City), Luke wanted to fight for good for the sake of fighting for good, because that's what his father did, because Luke is selfless; while Anakin wanted to save Padme at the cost of everything else. In the end, his drive to do good and save her brought only evil and cost him her life, as well (this is why Lucas calls the story a "Tragedy") because Anakin is selfish.

Luke was always the epitome of the optimistic, incorruptible hero; whereas Anakin was the tragic figure who was doomed to fall, if you look at them from an "archetype" standpoint.

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#610849
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What would Darth Vader have been like as a ruler, if he had overthrown emperor palpatine and became the emperor/ruler of the galaxy himself??
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Father Skywalker said:

Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, did want to be the ruler of the galaxy himself. Being a Sith Lord, the evil sith have a habit/tradition of overthrowing and killing their sith masters and taking their place, like a power struggle amongst each other. The sith are like a real group of backstabbers.

Instantly stuck in my head.

I always like to see it as the Empire being good and holding the galaxy together, like the Republic did, and the Rebels being evil terrorists intent on disrupting the legitimate rule of the Empire in order to throw the galaxy into chaos and anarchy.

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#610845
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The Empire Strikes Back is a "junk movie"
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Oh, dear...

I was just explaining the situation and why your... enthusiasm... for aspects of the Prequels and Special Editions that are generally disliked here might not be as well-received as you might hope. The fact that your views are so very... energetic... and wildly polar opposite of the general opinion here is why it could be infinitely easy to assume you were just posting them in order to get a rise out of the community here.

Certainly, though I vehemently disagree with it, I have no problem with you having your own point of view; though I admit I do cringe when additional changes are mentioned in regards to the Original Trilogy and imagining Hayden Christensen under the mask.

Star Wars really does have a following of all kinds...

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#610817
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The Empire Strikes Back is a "junk movie"
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Father Skywalker said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Father Skywalker said:

Why I love Episode 5 the most is imaging a scarred, burned, pale-white skinned (like an egg), bald, middle-aged Hayden Christensen underneath darth vader's cyborg samurai robot suit........

Strike one.

Strike one?? Why?? I just like continuity stuff. When Anakin Skywalker slaughtered the Seperatist council that was hiding on Mustafar, lead the stormtroopers/clonetroopers into the Jedi Temple invasion, force-choked Padme amidala his wife, dueled Obi-Wan Kenobi in that agile fast fight amongst the lava, and was burned to crisps in the immolation scene, he was already Darth Vader, despite not looking the the cybernetic samurai with black armor and a helmet and the robot breathing and the deep james earl jones voice, and being played by the handsome long haired hayden christensen.....

The suit does not make him Darth Vader. The point is, I like to imagine Darth Vader from Episode 5 with the same face that he had in Episode 3, when he was a younger dark lord of the Sith. Its for continuity reasons/purposes, and it just seems plain awesome, hayden christensen's scarred face and voice under that iconic samurai mask in the original trilogy's most famous scenes and moments!!!!

As this website and the associated forum is dedicated to calling for the restoration and preservation of the original, unaltered, theatrical editions of the original trilogy; fan efforts to document and remove all of the tinkering Lucas has wrought since the films were released; discussion of Lucas' intentional suppression and intent to replace the original editions of the films with his altered versions; and how several of our members have renounced their ability to be fans of Star Wars due to the alterations of the Special Editions and the lackluster Prequel Trilogy; the general consensus in this community is that the Special Editions of the films and the following Prequel Trilogy were awful, awful films and any mention of sullying the Original Trilogy with Hayden Christensen's portrayal of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader is sure to make most of the members' skin crawl.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinions, and I, personally, will welcome you no less than any other member; but you should not be surprised when posts referencing the Special Editions or Prequel Trilogy in a positive light are not well-received.

If you haven't already, I urge you to take a look at SaveStarWars.com to get an idea of the general mindset of the member base and our cause.

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#610813
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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To go into it a bit further as I'm just home from class and have more time, alcohol addiction is a pretty serious disease that can have major impact on not only the physical and psychological health of the addict, but also the emotional, and often physical and psychological if the addicted is abusive, health of loved ones.

I would say the man is quite possibly within the definition of an addict, especially if he continues to use despite consequences. Perhaps he's still at the stage where he's able to hold it together and thinks he's hiding it from most people, but I feel like his treatment (id est, disregard) of Bingo's repeatedly-stated concerns is telling and makes for a patently unhealthy relationship.

He needs treatment. I'm not sure what kind of addiction treatment they have in England, but it can't be much different than what we have in America; some form of a Twelve-Step program would be excellent, as long as he gets a sponsor and actively works with them to combat his disease, otherwise he is not really in treatment and is not going to stay off the booze for any significant period of time.

Unfortunately, as with most addicts (especially alcoholics), this man does not feel like he has a problem, and often times, there are two ways addicts realize they do have a problem, those being when they hit absolute rock bottom and have that epiphany in the mirror one morning when they realize they're killing themselves and ruining their life and the lives of their loved ones; or, when their loved ones create consequences for the actions of the addict by leaving and severing contact with them until they have made significant progress in the treatment of their addiction (not just empty promises to "stop" or "cut back" because addicts lie, and that's the blunt truth). In either case, it is unfortunate that it has to reach such an extreme point, but those are really the only ways: you can't change someone who is unwilling to change, and the addict must be willing to seek and commit to treatment.