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Tyrphanax

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#610779
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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SilverWook said:

buddy-x-wing said:

SilverWook said:

I could never figure out why Lucas didn't restore Red Leader's dialog in the SE about having met Luke's father when he was younger, and that he was a "great pilot". It doesn't seem to contradict anything in the prequels.

although unless Red Leader was a Clone pilot or a Jedi or one of those pilots from Naboo, how would he know that Anakin was a good pilot?  although I'm only using the prequels as a point of reference, perhaps they'll retcon red leader into a Clone Wars episode now that I've said that.

He could have simply been a witness to some daring do Anakin performed during the Clone Wars. Ordinary people have crossed paths with heroes in real life throughout history.

It always felt to me like they'd flown together, though.

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#610769
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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buddy-x-wing said:

SilverWook said:

I could never figure out why Lucas didn't restore Red Leader's dialog in the SE about having met Luke's father when he was younger, and that he was a "great pilot". It doesn't seem to contradict anything in the prequels.

although unless Red Leader was a Clone pilot or a Jedi or one of those pilots from Naboo, how would he know that Anakin was a good pilot?  although I'm only using the prequels as a point of reference, perhaps they'll retcon red leader into a Clone Wars episode now that I've said that.

Could be he flew for some planetary defense force similar to Naboo's. Likely the route The Clone Wars would take if they do so.

I'd actually like to see that, come to think of it.

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#610764
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Very Old George Lucas movie shows same talent as Star Wars trilogy
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zombie84 said:

1990osu said:

^^People who say that the less Lucas was involved, the better the movies were.  The idea that Gary Kurtz was this genius and he and Marcia Lucas saved SW from being a flop, and Irvin Kirshner and Kurtz were the only reason ESB was good. 

Part of that is true, but Lucas was also part of the team and that's where he worked best. When he went off on his own, the supports he relied upon weren't there and the films sucked. Plus, I think Lucas' skills diminished naturally with old age. But I don't think people argued that he was always talentless, just that his collaborations hid or offset the flaws he had. The only reason he collaborated was because he set that environment up in the first place, so it was a deliberate part of his method.

This is about how I feel on the issue.

Personally, I respect Lucas as a filmmaker a lot, but I do feel that a lot of the charm of Star Wars and Empire was due to the collaboration of a bunch of different minds (checks and balances, not just for Lucas, but for anyone involved with a bad idea), and the "MacGuyvered" nature they had, out of necessity due to the time and budget constraints on those first two films.

Once Jedi, and certainly the prequels, rolled around, Lucas had infinitely more monetary resources, more technology to call on, fewer people to answer to, and more final say, and because of that, he was able to make the films he, and he alone, wanted to make without other people meddling in your domain and without regard to compromises you made out of necessity before (which is entirely understandable as an artist), but, unfortunately, in the process he lost a lot of what had unintentionally made those movies feel so "real" and what made them have such an impact on cinematic and cultural history.

I feel that, if Lucas had started the Star Wars saga in 1999 with the same budget and freedom of control he had with the prequels, the series would not have been as highly regarded as it is, even if it was the pioneering film for the effects used.

I believe that Lucas has an incredible amount of talent and skill as a filmmaker and storyteller, but I think that he works better with a collaborative team behind him, and the same is really true for anyone in any line of work; being able to pull such a huge project off perfectly, alone, with no input or help from anybody else is an exceedingly rare gift, I certainly don't possess it, and I don't know anybody else who does, so it's not like it's a Lucas-specific thing; very few great films were the work of a single person.

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#610667
Topic
Help on New Hope opening scene Cinematography
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TheBoost said:

Tyrphanax said:

AntcuFaalb said:

TheBoost said:

The interior of Leia's ship is really bright, with white walls, white smoke, and white armored stormtroopers. This looks cool, but also lets the blaster bolts really stand out.

... and Darth Vader.

Yeah, you're basically blasted by whiteness the whole scene and then suddenly, pow, Darth Vader strides in as this huge contrasting dark presence with the fanfare and you know exactly who the bad guy is.

"Star Wars" is shot so simply, and yet in no way unsophisticated. 

Nowadays this sequence would have had lens flares, and high contrast, over exposed lighting, and 3x as many cuts. There would have been a huge rack-focus shot as Vader came through the door in slo-mo.

Unfortunately, and ironically, Star Wars kinda helped to set that precedent of big effects-laden scenes. People in the industry missed the point, or at least took away the wrong message.

For me, the iconic shots of the OT, and Star Wars especially, will always outshine even the most technically-impressive shots of today.

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#610652
Topic
Help on New Hope opening scene Cinematography
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AntcuFaalb said:

TheBoost said:

The interior of Leia's ship is really bright, with white walls, white smoke, and white armored stormtroopers. This looks cool, but also lets the blaster bolts really stand out.

... and Darth Vader.

Yeah, you're basically blasted by whiteness the whole scene and then suddenly, pow, Darth Vader strides in as this huge contrasting dark presence with the fanfare and you know exactly who the bad guy is.

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#610474
Topic
Since when did ROTJ become less highly regarded than even Episodes II or III?
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Jaitea said:

Tyrphanax said:

I believe the EU states that that year was spent looking for Solo, as well, so no time to visit Yoda.

At the closing of Empire Luke agrees to meet Lando on Tatooine, it seems to be knowledge to them & the audience that Fett is taking Solo to Jabba....so a year looking for Solo doesn't sound right.

For the gang to meet up on Tatooine soon after Solo was delivered to Jabba to perhaps test security....then set up infiltration, perhaps they had to be pulled into another battle....but there was plenty of time for Luke to revisit Yoda

J

Indeed, but there is a plethora of EU stuff dealing with them chasing Boba around the galaxy.