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Tyrphanax

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#941974
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MUST each Star Wars Ep. have to have...?
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Voss Caltrez said:

ATMachine said:

The original opening for ESB had the crawl as black letters on a white ground, which was then revealed to be the snowy plains of Hoth seen from a bird’s eye view.

In post-production this was revised so that the opening scene of the film took place in space, with Vader’s fleet dispatching probes to look for the Rebels. This kind of accidentally cemented the idea that a SW movie must have its opening crawl take place against a backdrop of stars.

Really? checks youTube really quick
I think I would have liked the original better, but then again, maybe having the opening scene among the stars, better cements the idea that, hey, you’re about to watch a story about STAR Wars.

Honestly yeah, I kinda like the continuity it provides. It’s part of the hype of sitting down and seeing the Lucasfilm logo… then the “A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away…”, then the starfield and STAR WARS. It would be weird without it.

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#941973
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What didn't you like about TFA? <em>SPOILERS</em>
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Lord Haseo said:

I cared about Alderaan because it was a planet full of sentient beings; not because of Leia. Hell, on a first viewing you don’t even get enough of Leia to form an opinion about her as a character but I digress. Had Hosnian Prime been Coruscant that would have made the scene more impactful.

It was so poorly explained that a lot of people thought that, haha. I had a moment where I thought the same on my first viewing before they mentioned Hosnian Prime at some point after.

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#941961
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What didn't you like about TFA? <em>SPOILERS</em>
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I was down with that whole scene except for that one part. When I saw it the first time I just assumed they were in that same system, but when I learned it was lightyears away I was annoyed. It made it seem tacked-on just because they couldn’t be arsed to come up with a way to have Han and Friends learn about it in a way that would make us care (which we wouldn’t have anyway because why does the Hosnian system even matter in the movie because they cut out the one scene that explained it).

We cared about Alderaan because that’s where Leia was from and because it was the focal point of the first act of the movie. They gotta go to Alderaan, that’s where the answers are, that’s where Leia is from, that’s where her father is and when they get Ben there it’ll all be good, and then things fall completely apart and it’s destroyed despite being a peaceful, innocent planet (the symbol of good against the evil Death Star), cementing the Empire as unquestionably evil and then the death of Ben on top of that means that all but one thing our heroes set out to do have failed and they’re forced to improvise to survive. Alderaan is an objective and a catalyst.

In The Force Awakens a system we’ve never heard about is blown up by a superweapon we’ve never seen until just moments before for reasons that aren’t very well-explained.

Now, if Han and friends were trying to get to the Resistance’s leaders on Hosnian Prime to warn them about the Starkiller Base that they stumbled across earlier somehow (which gives the First Order a better reason to blow up the system), and the Hosnian system is destroyed on the way there, which they learn about from Maz or something and everyone assumes the Resistance was on the planet when it blew, then we have real gravity and despair when the First Order shows up and Rey is captured, and then actual hope and happy surprise when Leia shows up not long after to take the survivors to the actual Resistance base.

I’m just spitballing and since the whole movie is basically the same plot as the OT anyway it’s not far out of line.

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#941952
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What didn't you like about TFA? <em>SPOILERS</em>
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Lord Haseo said:

Tyrphanax said:
The Starkiller Base blowing up a system in real time was rough.

Wait…what?

Sorry, I wrote that weirdly.

When the base blows up the planets and Han and Friends watch it happen from Takodana in real time… that’s not how space works. And sure, it’s a space opera, maybe things work differently in the Star Wars universe… it still didn’t sit well with me.

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#941947
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What didn't you like about TFA? <em>SPOILERS</em>
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Jesus, catching up on this thread was like punching myself in the face.

Anyway. The pacing was a bit rough. The rehashed bits of the OT were rough. The Starkiller Base blowing up a system in real time was rough. Some of the CGI was rough.

And yet, despite being a movie that was basically a redo of the original Star Wars with no less flashy action than the PT, it was still better than four of the extant six films.

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#941829
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OT Special Editions to have USA Roadshow Summer '16
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canofhumdingers said:

It’s been a while, but didn’t they also destroy Jango’s version of Slave 1 in an episode of the Clone Wars? Didn’t that white, pony-tailed bounty hunter lady crash it or get shot down or something?

I think it’s implied they just crashed it and Hondo repairs it and then Boba ends up with it. Something along those lines.

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#941705
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OT Special Editions to have USA Roadshow Summer '16
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crissrudd4554 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I always assumed that the suit and Slave 1 were inherited by Boba, but Lucas got the colors wrong because he forgot to watch the original trilogy before filming the prequels.

I used to think perhaps it was Jango’s suit but the colors were starting to fade or something

I think the idea Lucas was shooting for in Attack of the Clones was that they’re the same suits, but repainted a few times and missing some parts by Empire. The Reek on Geonosis puts a dent in Jango’s helmet in about the same spot as Boba’s is dented (despite Jango’s being a dent and Boba’s looking more like blaster damage) and Boba’s armour has a silver base colour, which I feel is a bit of a silly idea.

They “retcon” this, I assume, in The Clone Wars where Jango’s helmet is destroyed in a certain episode (I won’t spoil anything though).

In the EU they have scenes where Boba replaces damaged parts of his armour with other pieces from a collection, which makes sense to me considering the differences between Empire and Jedi.

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#941704
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OT Special Editions to have USA Roadshow Summer '16
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Density said:

dahmage said:

Density said:

I think people who defend the 97 either do so out of nostalgia (if they were young when it came out or first saw the movies on a 97 VHS or something) or just because it’s older and has also been superseded by subsequent versions. Therefore it has some of that “I can’t have it, therefore it’s better” appeal due to its unavailability.

i am in the camp of those who first saw the 97 SE and that was all i saw for years. so yes, for me it is very much nostalgia as it was the only version i knew for a long time. if it was the first version you saw, i think you would feel much the same would you not?

You can’t fight nostalgia, or convince someone that they shouldn’t have it.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I agree. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with it. If you like the 97 knock yourself out. It doesn’t hold any special appeal to me since I to this day have never actually seen them in their entirety; I started with the OOT on VHS and the first SE I saw was 04, so the 97 kind of seems like the worst of both worlds from my perspective. But I totally get why it wouldn’t to someone exposed to SW for the first time through the 97 SE. None of us would be here if we weren’t nostalgia nuts in one way or another.

I grew up with the 1997 Special Editions (they were a gift for Christmas one year after having seen the unaltered films at least once each beforehand) and watched them so much so that seeing the Originals years later was really weird, and it’s still a bit jarring now for the pan in the ice cave on Hoth to not show the Wampa.

That said, I don’t really have any nostalgia for the Special Editions.