Talking about this made me feel like popping in my old VHS copy that I never got rid of. I noticed something…funny. I think I have a very rare sound mix that no one has mentioned before. I took a clip to show an example of what I mean.
On a different note I decided to finally make a video comparing the subtle differences between the Mono on the LD and the one that was included on the MGM Special Edition DVD.
One slight difference I believe is present but didnt note in the video is when the Terminator cocks the 12 gauge in the gun shop. Is it me or does it sound like the cocking sound was double tracked on the MGM mono??
THANK YOU!!! I had read about these subtle differences on both this site and others, but never had them all compiled WITH annotations to point them out directly. Nice work…
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…However. You’re missing the difference in the door clank sound at the police station
when The Terminator walks out (after saying “Ill be back”).
I actually like the color timing on that other screener that had no green tint at all. Whether in the Matrix or not.
Fair enough. Given the HD era we live in now, only hardcore Supes fans who remember the tv edit would have interest, unfortunately. As for ‘other things’ I hope you mean your official HD fan edit of S2.
::puts hands in pockets and walks away slowly, whistling::
I think you’re right.
Why not just PM some of them with the request? Don’t even talk about it on the board.
In the meantime if anyone wants to preview part 2 on their 5.1 setup let me know. I am eager to get this out, but not before i can verify the sound is ok.
Still waiting on that? I’d say ask the people on the fanedit message board, but I think they have policies against tv edits or non-official releases or something, correct?
I’ll be following this thread, as I’m working on a fan edit of Terminator 2 and am trying to remove as much of that steel blue color timing as possible.
TV versions of films I’ve seen that have deleted scenes that have never appeared in any official release:
Movies I’ve seen in recent years that have added footage that I’ve found on the interwebs:
I’m sure there’s more but I just woke up and can’t really think before coffee, lol.
Looks like the green is removed. Most Matrix fans would say this is heresy, but I actually prefer neutral colors. When I was younger and had the movie on DVD (the first dvd with the snap case), I remember watching behind the scenes clips from the movie that didn’t have the green, or even the music. I remember thinking: “Hmm. Wouldn’t it be cool if they released an alternate version like that. I’d love to try putting in different music and see if it fits”.
Yeah, I was already into fan editing long before I even heard of it, lol.
Dek Rollins said:
I do hope that a 35mm scan of The Terminator will come to the OT community sometime, but we’ll just have to wait and see. 😄
Sign me up for that as well…Talk to the guys that did the “Silver Screen” edits of Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Please don’t take this the wrong way guys, but I still have a copy of The Terminator on vhs, and it isn’t that blue. The color was always pretty neutral, except for the future scenes which are always blue (though some trailers have those scenes look very pink/magenta pushed. Probably Cameron’s floodlights to help the blue once the filters were added. Same thing for T2 trailers).
I also have a very old German dvd of Terminator that looks like it was taken from a film print (lots of print damage and cigarette burns), and it’s actually very teal, but not the same kind of teal like the blu-ray. It’s more natural, if that makes any sense.
Here’s some screencaps:
http://sd.caps-a-holic.com/vergleich.php?vergleichID=221
It’s the first DE/German dvd on the left. The only one with a 1.66 aspect ratio.
So the original print was NOT in fact, as Teal as so many have said? Not so much here maybe, but on other sites where we discuss this. Cuz I have an old german DVD that actually has a very teal color to it. Not so much like the current Region A blu-rays (much more natural, IMO), but many have argued the case that this is why the film was originally teal.
Personally, I want it to look like (and of course, sound like) the way I watched it growing up. So it doesn’t even matter to me.
Yeah, my internet has ben slow-to-not working on and off for the past month now and I have no idea why. Doing that post actually took about 20 minutes because I had to wait till roughly 50 seconds of those videos loaded and I could hear. I researched about 5 videos and must’ve gotten them mixed up.
Also, another thing others have noted in the differences in the mono mixes is that you can hear the motorcycle Arnold is riding BEFORE we see him riding it right after the sex scene, while in others you don’t hear it till we see him. My old VHS copy is the former.
Listen closely @0:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXZyPg04a8&t=87s
Notice that loud sound when the door hits the glass?
Now listen here at the same time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxgkkJOEHS4&t=70s
No loud clang. A more typical sound a door makes when it hits something.
Lucky you!! I was supposed to see a 35mmm print a few weeks ago, and they changed it to a DCP at the last minute. I got my money back, but lost out on Sunday pay at work (called out). Aside from what Dek mentioned, pay close attention to the sound of the door hitting the wall when Arnold swings it open after he says “Ill be back” (It’s right before he comes back and kills the guy with his car). There are 2 mono mixes of the film, and both have a different sound effect for when the door slams open.
Ah, I checked out the screencaps. Gonna stick with version 1 simply because I actually like the overdone colors. Gives it an older “VHS” style color-bleed kinda thing IMO, lol.
Wait. I started DL-ing the Aliens Fund. collection version last week off the “organ” site. Is that the same one?
Yes, you can use a non-anamorphic dvd to match a bluray if you like.
Thanks!!
Will this work if I’m trying to take the color timing of a non-anamorphic dvd and make an anamorphic dvd match it’s color timing? Basically, I have a non-anamorphic dvd of Terminator 2 that has more neutral color timing (less blue) and I wanna use a better qualitty dvd source that has the same (or close to it) color timing.
Where did you source your 4X3 footage from?
It’s a PAL digital copy of a FS version I got off the spleen. I’ve decided not to use this though. The colors off way too off, and I can’t for the life of me get the AR to be correct. Just gonna use my old widescreen DVD instead.
A hi-def blu release of the full 3 hour and 8 minute version would be boss. First day buy for me. Thanks for the info!!
I’m wondering if this will help me with my edit Of Terminator 2. I need to isolate and extract all the dialogue, as it’s the only original audio my edit will have. All other sounds are being rebuilt from the ground up. Gunshots, explosions, the T-1000’s noises, ambience, and of course, the score.
You knew I’d be first in line, right? Lol. Send it this way dude. Congrats on finishing!!
Rollins, I’m not sure what you mean when you ask me if the shots look “off”. If you mean in relation to the 35mm images, it’s hard to say from those pics, as the frames are so small, lol.
Oh I’m watching your thread as well, Rollins. I’ll definitely check it out when it’s finished, as I like how the overdone blue color makes it look more T2. Dark Jedi’s regrade is my go-to (kk650’s is about the same IMO), but weirdly enough, what you’re doing is how my memories of the film as a little boy play out in my head. Like for whatever reason, the color blue is what I think of for T1. Yet DJ and KK’s regrades are obviously much more neutral.