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#151979
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151979/action/topic#151979
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Hi guys

Regarding Yoda’s lines: I know I haven’t talked about it a whole lot in this thread, many of Yoda’s lines in Ep. II and III drive me nuts. All of the ones mentioned by InfoDroid have been changed. The “warm feelings” scene has been changed so that Yoda says, “Senator Amidala. In grave danger you are.” Padme: Do you have any idea who’s behind the attack?” It flows logically this way.

Regarding Yoda’s saving the clones: MTHaslett already brought this up. And a big deal will be made of this, whether I use Yoda’s theme or not, because it is the resolution of a cliffhanger. This will be accomplished through lots of dramatic music. So have no fear about this one- everything will be set right.

Regarding the validity of Lucas’ comments: Sometimes I listen; sometimes I don’t. If I’m reading the screenplay and I find a good idea that he deleted later for the film, I certainly don’t hesitate to use it. Or if there’s a good idea in the commentary (knowing that both Lucas and Williams were against having the asteroid chase devoid of music was helpful). However, he is often full of baloney and I pretty much only go by his comments if I agree with them anyway.

The soundtrack- the biggest changes I’m making are in the action music, aside from the music that I’m recording myself. The original love theme stays in, the mystery motif stays in, and the Kamino motif stays in. And I’m still going back and forth as to whether or not to score Anakin’s search for his mother with a full-blown rendition of “Anakin’s theme” from Episode I, or to save it until Episode III. But the music is getting VERY different and a LOT more synchronized with the action. Thanks to InfoDroid’s help, I have a lot more now to draw from for the soundtrack.

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Working on several things right now and making GREAT progress: the very tricky Council’s Conference with Palpatine at the beginning, and the Jango/Obi-Wan space battle. The battle is scored and synchronized in such a way that I think your jaw will drop when you see it. MTHaslett, I’ve changed the color and sound effects for the explosion to my liking. Don’t want to boast here; I’m just VERY proud of my recent work on this battle. I scored it mostly with the Rite of Spring (which I actually didn’t expect to use for this scene).

The stereo mix is done, complete with dubbing, for the Anakin/Padme hug scene on Tatooine.

-Another thing I did was create a DVD quality Lucasfilm logo from the Ewok DVD. The one on the “Ewoks” was formatted and arranged a little differently, so I rearranged it to best represent the original. It’s slightly thicker type, but you wouldn’t notice it unless you compared the two side by side. For the fox logo, I think I’m going to use a DVD quality rip from “Alien,” made in the same time period as the SW trilogy and therefore has nearly exactly the same logo. Again, unless compared side by side, you won’t be able to tell the difference.

-“A long time ago…far away”- still working on a DVD quality frame of this.

-And best of all: Now I’m certain that I can encode a very high quality dual-layer DVD of this on my PC. I’ve tested it and ironed the bugs out- when I begin to finish scenes, it’ll be good to go.

I’ll try to go into more detail about the conference scene later- I’ve noticed some interesting basic mistakes in the actual directing for this scene. Filmmaking 101- the eye travels from left to right on the screen. Lots of stuff on the left and not much on the right means less focus on the right. The “right” contains Palpatine and the “left” contains everyone else. With a horizontal flip on the entire scene, Palpatine suddenly becomes a very noticeable figure in the frame…
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#150657
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capturing VHS?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150657/action/topic#150657
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thats for PAL is there something like that for NTSC protected VHS?

My $50 unit does work on NTSC protected VHS. The results are flawless. In fact, I connected my DVD player to my VCR with this unit for fun, and found that I was able to make a VHS copy directly off of the macrovision-encoded DVD.

So I'm pretty sure that that $100 thing will work, but it's unneccessary as the cheaper version actually does the same job. I am very happy with it.

Copymaster
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#150617
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150617/action/topic#150617
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Guys, keep in mind that that was a half-joke; Darth Maul=Grievous makes far more sense that that. But then again, who would have thought that Vader was Luke's father? That Leia and Luke were related? Things are twisted in the SW world.

Therefore, it follows that I don't want to make it worse. MTHaslett, I had a BIG problem with Grievous the first time I saw the film. It got better with subsequent viewings, but the idea of Maul=Grievous is very interesting to me.
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#150583
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150583/action/topic#150583
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Thank you, Weyseed! I too am a tad bit reluctant to merely call this a fan “edit”, because this implies that I just took what was there and cut it to my liking. So much new material is going into this thing, between the alternate music, newly recorded and possibly newly written music, completely new Anakin ADR, new Lama-Su, new robot, in some scenes completely new soundtrack…the list kind of goes on and on. So maybe I’ll just call it my edit/project and leave it at that

Still doing the final saber duel- and as usual, while experimenting, I stumbled across a couple fantastic things not part of the original duel plan. They are incorporated now. I think one of them was based off one of Darth Simon’s suggestions (eliminating a contradiction in the scene)…I could be wrong, though. But I originally had the scene sot that the music builds and builds underneath Obi-Wan/Dooku, and then it finishes when Dooku hits Obi-Wan and he falls to the ground. Now, keeping in mind the surprise of Anakin’s rescue (no CGI jumping shot), the music continues to build as Obi-Wan falls to the ground, Dooku raises his saber (only one short shot of this, not the endless shots of Obi-Wan making faces and Dooku twirling his lightsaber around. Also no cutaways to Anakin). So Dooku raises saber, Obi-Wan looks up, and Dooku brings down his saber onto Anakin’s saber (Yavin cue finishes). Shot of Obi-Wan looking up in relief. Cut to Dooku (Brave of you, boy), and this cut coincides with underscore of a tuba doing “Uranus” from planets (more musical unity). I had to lower this 3 half steps to make sense musically with the previous cue.

I don’t want to spell out the other change, but just wanted to let you know how frequently these ideas and experiments happen when I’m actually editing as opposed to watching.

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This may be a crazy idea, but just to throw it out there….

What if General Grievous = Lama Su?
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#149857
Topic
Need help with DVD ripping on mac platform
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149857/action/topic#149857
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Welcome back, Rebel Scumb! Although I don't have the answer to that question, I have a question of my own...do you still have a copy of your original Episode II edit that you might be willing to release to the public? Because I'm doing a edit called "Shroud of the Dark Side", and I'm making heavy use of the list of changes you posted for your old edit.

I know I'm not the only one that would be delighted to have a copy of it. Thanks!
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#149843
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149843/action/topic#149843
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Hello, everyone! Thanks for your patience and feedback.

“Does this mean we lose "Always be mindul of your surroundings," because I really liked that.”

No, it shouldn’t.

“we can delve into that more next year around this time.”

Definitely.


“I really believe the PT did too much to take away the mystery of the Force by giving too many explanations (ie. midichlorians... *shudders, trying not to wretch*) and leaving it as you've described here would fit the mythos far better, IMHO.”

Yes!- Midichlorians are out.

“The continued edits would really would drive home not only the similarities of the two generations of Skywalkers, but also the differences, as we see Luke resist the Emperor where Anakin couldn't.”

Exactly- this makes ROTJ more scary because Anakin couldn’t resist the Emperor in a similar situation. I’ve always thought of it this way.

“Seriously though, I'm really looking forward to how all of this turns out. Great stuff here and I'll gladly stand in line to receive this one when you have it finished, Trooperman.”

Thanks!

Regarding distribution- I am not going to be able to distribute these myself. Don’t have time, money, or desire to take the risk. So copies will go to a select few that I have decided on already, and through these folks this edit will get to someone who will act as my distributor- i.e. you will contact him for a copy of my edit and not me. It will also more likely than not wind up on myspleen and the newsgroups.
Of course, I’ll be eager to discuss the edit with anyone that wants to learn more about it or collaborate, but I just want as little to do with distributing it as possible after I complete it, in case Lucasfilm or Fox does a “track down all the fan editors and make them pay” move.

“If you change that one Yoda line”

Which one? (to confirm)

I think you guys see where I’m going with this- Qui-Gon didn’t figure out how to come back as a ghost until the 3rd film. We see him at the end of the movie on Tatooine as Obi-Wan walks toward him, the implication being that Obi-Wan chats with Qui-Gon between the 3rd and 4th film and teaches him the secret. So when Obi-Wan dies…he disappears. And Yoda is Yoda- no explanation needed!

Now, going with this scenario, the fact that Anakin didn’t disappear in ROTJ isn’t as disturbing- he was never taught how, was he? But if such a change were to be made, I wouldn’t do it. Someone else would need to.

“Trooperman has said he has no plans to edit the OT, but maybe we can persuade him to make a few minor alterations for the good of the saga.”

“Noooooooo!” (which will be cut from III, by the way). Part of the point of these projects was to prove that the two trilogies COULD have worked together without having to change the originals. These are meant to go with the original cuts- transfers either from the pre-THX widescreen, the Def. Collection, or the Faces set. However, if someone were to take the Darth Editous edits, or the Tellan edits, the ocpmovie Classic Editions, etc. and tailored them to work with this trilogy (putting the original Lucasfilm logos and crawl back into the DVD, etc), then it would probably be OK. But otherwise, none of the edits or “partial-special editions” out there will match with these. But if I did it myself….I would never hear the end of it

“Just wanted to add my kudos to your great work. The clips only make me crazy to see more.”

Thanks, Mthaslett! Haven’t heard from you in a while! By the way, I will be calling on you sometime for Lama-Su; I just can’t give you details now. But I will have you do that

“There are a lot of small cuts that have been made throughout the entire movie, so it would take a while to list them all. From what I rememberer, many (or at least some) of the changes are things that are different from your version. There is also some dialouge altererations you maybe could "borrow" from his edit, so I think it's worth to get a copy of it yourself.
By the way, the change I told you about Padme's scream in the droid factory some months ago is not my idea, but came from this edit (I was the one who sent Rikter a copy), so you give credit to the right person if you are going to use that idea.”

I see…you must have sent this disc to Rikter recently, because a few weeks ago I ordered every Episode II edit that Rikter had listed, on DVD. I will see about obtaining a copy of that. And I am going to use the “scream” idea, which would make it even more useful to have this edit to see how they implemented this. Thanks!

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InfoDroid is away for a few days, but he has been so kind to supply with a wealth of musical material I can use, not just for SotDS but for the others as well. I’m so grateful to him for doing it. These include the hard-to-find “Conveyor Belt” arrangement in CD quality. All this music will make a huge improvement in my edit. But I have a big a question for anyone who knows…was there EVER an instrument-only recording of Henry Mancini’s “The Shadow of Paris” from the film “A Shot in the Dark”? I’ve looked around on the Internet, and it appears that there is not a soundtrack for this film, and the only recording of it I could find has vocals. Does anyone know if this exists? Otherwise, I’ll have to record it myself- I need this track very much. You’ll see why

Thanks!- things are busy lately but I’m still making progress on the saber fight, impact flashes in the Clone War, and the nightclub scene. Soon, I’ll have to buckle down and really do some serious dubbing work on the dialogue heavy scenes. After I get these done, the Droid Factory all cut together, all the robot and Lama-Su dubbing done, and the end battle scenes done, then I’ll be a lot better shape.
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#148518
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Bitrate?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/148518/action/topic#148518
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Hi guys- I was wondering if anyone could help me out with this question: Is there any kind downloadable program out there in which you can analyze vob, m2v, or just mpg and find out the bitrate at any given point in the movie? Other useful things would be lowest bitrate in segment or scene (of your choosing), highest bitrate in selection, and average bitrate. Then, I could use this as a reference when re-encoding for dual-layer in TMPGEnc, to provide the highest quality possible for each individual scene or portions of scenes. You see, I'm doing WAY too many things to edit the mpg directly; I have to make the edits using mpg, output to uncompressed avi (because any other output loses quality in this program), and then encode using TMPGEnc. So I have to reencode, but I want the quality to be on par with the official dual-layer release.

Thanks for your help!
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#148003
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/148003/action/topic#148003
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OK....

Thanks for your suggestions, Sluggo

Allrighty, Here's my 2¢ about the Ghost of Gui-Gon Jinn. (Thanks character map!)

1. The body of Qui-Gon can not dissappear. As it has been mentioned, this would create more problems than it would fix. In addition, Yoda and Obi-wan pretty much evaporated soon as they were dead. If this is the norm, then he would have to dissappear in Obi-wan's arms in the reactor room. Otherwise, he'd still be alive when they put him on the pyre and would have died in the flames.

2. I've been trying to talk somebody into re-editing the Anakin destroying the Droid Control Ship for quite a while. Having Qui-gon speak to Anakin through the Force is the way the movie needed to end up. The allusion to Luke destroying the Death Star would be perfect. The only problem would be that in the final edit, Qui-Gon is still alive. He dies after Anakin destroys the ship. Having Qui-Gon 'communicate' with Anakin while he is still alive seems problematic. Moving the scenes around fix the problem. Incidentally, the revised 3rd draft has Qui-Gon dying before Anakin does his stuff.

3. As far as having Gui-gon communicate with Anakin or Obi-wan later in the movies....I think I'd leave the communication to a minimum. Qui-gon is a prequel character. If he is talking to everybody and appearing to everybody, then there's no reason for him not to be in the classic trilogy. If I had him appear, I'd have him only at the very end of the movie, As Obi-wan is walking back to the Eeopie. He'd appeas as Obi-wan walks towards him.

1. I see what you're saying, but...could someone explain to me again what happened with Darth at the end of ROTJ? We're going on the original Sebastian Shaw scenario, by the way.

2. Absolutely- this has been brought up before and you don't need to convince me a bit. When I FINALLY get to Episode I in a couple years, then this is sure to happen.

3. I'm not sure about cutting the communication, because I do think Qui-Gon is an important character and needs to be somewhat more involved, if he has retained his identity. But that's a VERY interesting idea, showing the ghost of Qui-Gon at the end of the film, almost like the end of ROTJ. That would tie things up very, very nicely. So what we would have in my PT is: Qui-Gon dies. Then, he helps Anakin destroy the Control Ship (like Obi-Wan in original SW). Qui-Gon doesn't have any contact with Obi-Wan (until the very end, when Obi-Wan sees his master at the end of the film), but Qui-Gon continues to be in touch with Anakin, through dreams and whatnot. This would make sense because he did this immediately after dying in Ep. I. Then, Yoda does NOT make the casual comment about communing with Qui-Gon. Qui-Gon simply appears to Obi-Wan at the end, kind of de-emphasizing the "learning" part of becoming a ghost and still retaining some mystery. What do you guys think? I'm very happy with this particular solution.


Anybody ever hear of a guy named Michael Giacchino? He started out doing video game soundtracks (Jurassic Park: The Lost World, the Medal of Honor series, etc.) and has recently done his first major movie which was "The Incredibles". Anyway, my point is this guy sounds VERY similar to classic John Williams. So much so, that some of his action cues from the games he's done, the World War II-themed games in particular, could be useful as a viable John Williams alternative for you, Trooperman, if you needed to stretch the music in certain areas.


YES- heard the "Incredibles" soundtrack more than once. I had never heard his vid-game soundtracks before, and after listening to those links, I conclude that....

This is great stuff! Thanks SO much for this. My favorite was the "Rowhouses" track- definitely sounds like something that goes in either the arena or the Clone War. What I like to do with these new themes is hint at them a couple times earlier in the movie, and then blast a full version of it at a dramatic moment. The punch of the music is added to by the familiarity; you've heard it before. I'd love to get hold of more of these tracks- are they on the game in .mp3 format, or uncompressed .wav? (sorry- not a big gamer here). If they're in the .wav format, I'll definitely want to get hold of them for better fidelity (I'm one of those people who try to pick out the compression artifacts in mp3 instead of just listening to it. Also worth noting that I can't stand watching a PAL movie because I have something called "perfect pitch" that enables me to identify and produce all 12 musical pitches, and I can't stand hearing the SW theme in B Major instead of B flat- it drives me nuts).


Also Trooperman... You mentioned there would be some original music written for this edit. Could you elaborate on that?

Sure!
1. I am trained in composition and tonal harmony
2. I write music
3. I play many different instruments
4. I hate MIDI and other computer generated sounds when used in movie soundtracks
5. I have equipment enabling me to record in stereo at home

Don’t want to ruin all the surprise, though
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-Almost finished the Obi-Wan/Dooku saber fight sound effects. Began on a stereo version and got bored, so…
-Starting working on the Shmi death scene with the alternate binary sunset cue before it. Unfortunately, I noticed through very revealing headphones that there's a slight buzz at the climax of this cue. Wondering if I did something wrong, I checked the actual CD, and it has the same defect. Not a big deal- just 70's recording technology, I guess. This certainly won't keep me from using it. Darkened the Tusken scenes outside and added chilling scream to scene, but except for a couple Anakin lines I've cut, the indoor part of the scene isn't changing much. I'm getting more and more efficient at this, which is a good thing.
-Those impact flashes are going to be a blast (no pun intended), and not difficult at all. And they will be white (not pink like the 2004 SW trilogy).
-I have four different edits of Ep. II now: Clone War, Path to the Dark Side, the “re-edit”, and the matinee edit. Of course I also have the plans for RebelScumb’s unreleased edit, thanks to Mr. Freeman. This will allow me to incorporate any superior changes that any one of these folks have made. The one I’m missing is the one by the “Phantom Editor”. Could anyone who’s seen it let me know if there are any worthwhile cuts or changes, however small?

Thanks!
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#147455
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147455/action/topic#147455
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WOW- I didn't expect to come back to this. I should post this stuff more often!

And your posts really brightened my day, InfoDroid. And yours too, DemonHunter (good luck on your project, BTW) And Commander Courage, as always. Everyone!- I'm glad you guys like where I'm going with this.

(unless I'm seeing things) it looks like you cut in the middle of Padme's run rather then letting the whole run go on. *checks the DVD* Yeah, it seems you cut the last 5 frames*thumbs up*

Could be. I edit very much on instinct and don't keep track of a lot of that. I pity the poor person who will try to list all the changes after this is done- it's kind of an impossible task.

A word on the space battle music I borrowed from the original SW- I didn't just come up with that a couple days ago, or last week. I've had that specific cue in mind for the saber duel for months now- it was one of the first things I envisioned for my Ep. II. And I was going to say the same thing as InfoDroid, CC- It did take a few plays to realize where the music was actually from, because it is in a very different context and is synched to the action. I guess the hope is that if people can’t place it from the original SW, they will sense that it’s familiar and will become more attached to it. Which is what I think InfoD was saying.

But as I said before, I don't plan on tracking much music directly out of the other movies, so there shouldn’t be a concern that it’ll be another sloppy cut, paste, and track job- not the case at all. Pretty much all new music comes in one piece, in a pretty good sized chunk- so that it flows.

And I'm glad people liked the saber effects. So do I

helps to raise the level of tension for the entire scene. Unlike that aimless, percussive funeral knell that John Williams crapped out for the official release. Whatever that was.

That's so true- this is a climactic life or death lightsaber fight! We need to hear an orchestra that's taking us somewhere. "Aimless" really is a good choice of words for the current score.

As a matter of fact, I must mention that you have come a LOOONG way since I last visited this thread, which was when it was only one page long. Back then, after reading your first entry, I admit that I laughed it off and said that what you were proposing (with a full redub of the main characters, sound effects, etc.) could never be done with any degree of acceptable quality.

Ha ha- it sounded a little over-the-top to me, too (at the time). Causing my somewhat unconfident 1st post. But it definitely has come a long way, especially after I realized there would be a demand for this and people were actually following the project.

But now... Wow! I've seen the screenshots and sample vids... and what can I say? You've made a believer out of me!

Ha ha- go back to the first page of this thread. I actually made the comment that people wouldn't buy this unless they actually saw it. And I honestly don't blame people for doubting someone with a wacky idea and no proof that he could actually do it.


Best of luck to you in this endeavor, as I read this thread I'm noticing that your directorial sensibilities are very much in tune with a lot of the changes I would've made myself. I'm overjoyed to see that someone is putting so much focus and effort into recreating the soundtrack of this film. It is an aspect that has been largely overlooked or ignored by most fan-editors up to this point. And IMO, it is where the prequels need the most work.

Thank you- it actually didn't start out that way, really. The big change to the soundtrack was going to be the new Anakin dub. Maybe some music in the nightclub, the Imperial March for the stormtroopers, etc. Then I remembered that the soundtrack is garbage and I wanted to replace a lot of that. Then, I didn't like some of the sound effects... before you know it, I'm almost doing a new stereo mix from scratch, splitting up the 5.1 on the official DVD for my own ends. Then, I remembered how awful the CGI was for this movie, and so I started experimenting…in fact, one of the most popular recolored sequences, the droid factory, was a complete accident that turned out way better than I expected. I’ll admit it- so many things in this edit I carefully planned, and so many new ideas were given to me through this forum, but I think you’ll find that some of the most amazing and creative things in here actually came about through luck.

The trick for Trooperman is to (in some cases) let the completed music dictate the editing and flow of the film, instead of vice-versa. If he does that, I think it may offer us all a brand new way of looking at this film.

Right on; that’s how I edit a movie, not the other way around. Cut the film to the music- there’s nothing more effective.

Looks (and sounds) like you've done an amazing job bringing life to Ep II.

Trooperman has certainly gotten it "just right," and I'm sure when the sequence is viewed as a whole it will work wonderfully. This guy seems to know what he's doing.

Thank you! As I’ve said, this isn’t my real job, just a very big hobby of mine. But in all honesty, although this is by far the biggest thing I’ve ever done, I have done a couple short films, so I’m not completely new to editing using the PC. My biggest concern is going to be coloring Mace Windu’s lightsaber blue- SPFX isn’t my forte at all. Music is my big thing, and I have access to certain things…as I brought up earlier, let’s just say that I’m positive that new music written specifically for SotDS will be recorded and featured in this.

This clip did bring something else to my attention. "Yoda holds you in such high esteem." Where does this come from? Surely Yoda hasn't been conferring with Dooku about his Jedi pupils. I'm glad they added some OT-style taunting in contrast to the silent duel of TPM, and there was even more in the script, but this line makes little sense when you think about it. I'm not suggesting to cut it, as it needs to be there to break up the fighting, I'm just pointing that out.

Good point, though. Like you say, it’s necessary to break the fighting up, pacing, etc.

Please ask if you have any questions, folks! I’m so happy that I’m doing something that will benefit not only myself (which was the original goal) but also others that are unhappy with the prequels. I’ll try to get it done as quickly as possible (but not sacrificing any quality in the process), as this is a big thing. I’m not a real PC editor, I’m not very experienced with special effects, but I’d like to think that I understand music, pacing, synchronization, and dialogue to a certain extent.

Thanks for your kind words.

Oh, and BTW CC- you're an Astros fan...are you from Texas? I used to live there, you know. I still have relatives in San Antonio and Houston.
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#147212
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147212/action/topic#147212
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Thanks!

I take it you replaced the PT sound effects?

Yes- all the saber effects here are new. Some are from my little library, some I grabbed right out of Ep. IV, and some are actually my own, created by combining existing effects.

Is that the final music? I know I've heard it before but I just can't place it (SW I know, but from AotC?).

Yes, I tracked music from "Battle of Yavin" from the original SW. I think that's the only time that I directly tracked music from the other films. I was really careful with the editing as far as making the saber fight last for the time of the exciting part, and then the music quiets as Dooku starts to speak. Synchronization is a big thing for me.

Part 2: The only really jarring thing was the reverse footage of Obi-Wan locked in with Dooku. Maybe I'm just so used to the offical version, but it looks odd.

Yes- that's what I was referring to. It looks odd to me as well and will be fixed to something that isn't jarring. But that's basically what I'm doing for that shot.

Thanks for the feedback!
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#147199
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147199/action/topic#147199
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Surprise
http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/8474/dooku5oj.png
Saber Fight mono lightsaber

Disclaimer: The clip above is not finished. The lightsaber effects also have not been put into stereo yet. I'm posting this because it seems the best way to get good feedback on it. Also, it's a bit of a preview into the general editing style I'm taking, perhaps. If you remember, I cut away after Dooku ignites his saber, so the goal was to cut both parts of the fight together to make a longer and exciting fight. I only posted part of it.

Unfinished

Here's another clip- I don't want to hear criticism on this one because the mix is unfinished, a few frames of video are still unfinished, etc. This is just to give you an idea of the cuts I've made to this very brief section of it.

Thanks for the suggestion, CC!