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#244895
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Thank you for those files, Marvolo

Originally posted by: Darth Richard
I was wondering if you would be slowing down how fast the spaceships went by, because in the PT they just wiz by, but in the OT they go fast but not that fast.


I actually didn't do a lot of that. Mainly because I don't have very good slow-motion software and I can't create new frames in-between to make it smooth enough and professional enough.

What I have been doing, though, is cutting shots so that the movement of the ships is more consistent with the OT. In other words, cutting the long, sweeping, shots where the ship drops out of the air and lands immediately, so that the style is more consistent. It's kind of hard to explain, but you'll see it in the film, particularly in the Clone War sequence.

Fact of the matter is, no matter how much you do to it, they are still going to be technologically much more complex than the OT. There's no getting around it unless you redo all the effects to look like models, which is way out of my league. What I can do, though, is alter the color palette, cinematography, and actual movement of the camera, to emulate the style as best I can.

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And guess what I'm working on now? STILL the sound mix. Very, very difficult. And that's pretty much it right now....
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#242766
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Hi folks,

The idea (s) outlined in the last couple of posts sound great to me. Jar-Jar speaks English for my movie, but it’s up to the editors on Ep. I whether to follow that completely or not. That actually did occur to me, though, while watching “The Clone War” a long time ago. Wouldn’t Jar-Jar have learned “Basic” by now? Anyway, I’m really looking forward to hearing Sluggo’s ADR for that soon, whether he has an Aussie accent or not.

I’m at work on building the sound mix- still. I’ll be working on that for at least the rest of September. And just for the record, this is NOT the fun part This is the part when you want to bang your head against the wall. There are so many details to work out, so many things you can’t hide (especially when there’s no music, like the first Lama-Su scene). So many sound issues that I came across in the editing, and put them aside, figuring I’d take care of them later. Well, now it’s later.

Especially difficult is mixing Anakin’s voice so that it sounds like it’s in the same space. I think I know now why nobody attempted anything this crazy before. It’s absolutely painstaking to get it right. As it is, I’m going to have to rerecord some ADR because I wasn’t physically far enough away from the mike during the recording.

However, it is very possible to get right, and it will be right before the release. And for the record, I'm up to twelve new character voices for this movie.

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Behind the scenes, Weezer has already read all of my stormtrooper dialogue, recorded it, and gotten the files to me. How quick was that? Although I’ll need a few of the lines resent because of distortion, Mr. Weezer has the classic trooper voices down so well, it’s scary. Combined with THX’s recordings (to come later this month), the battles will be amazing. I’ve already plugged some of Weezer’s dialogue into the clone war, and I got chills down my spine. Hearing the lines that I scripted in conjunction with the music and the Dune footage, followed by an explosion, followed by the new Nute Gunray voice- it’s just incredible, and comes at you so fast. Whenever I want to improve my morale, a lot of times I watch this sequence (and the Coruscant chase).

I’m pretty sure nobody’s ever seen or heard anything like this before in a SW prequel.

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REQUESTS:

-Still need the Fox logo from "Alien"
-Still need an actor for Uncle Owen (and hopefully Boba Fett, if anyone knows a younger kid that could help. I've already cleared out the original voice in the sound mix for another person. This kid's voice was a common complaint about the movie, and I thought, "Why not." He only has a few lines.

If anyone could help, that'd be great.

May the force be with you,

-TM

P.S. Thanks a lot for the KOTOR soundtrack, Marvolo. Unfortunately my machine says that all of the files are corrupted. Does anyone else have this problem?
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#241214
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241214/action/topic#241214
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Originally posted by: jedi_jra
Good to see all the progress being made Trooperman, I especially enjoy reading that there will be more added dialog.

With all the new dialog being recorded, I have a question and a "possible request" request. I didn't like Hayden's performance, and I am encouraged by your recordings for Anakin. However, Natalie Portmans was JUST as bad if not worse. There is no inflection in her voice at all, even when there should be. Any chance of getting a voiceover for her? It would only seem fitting... anyone else agree? Or am I asking for way too much...


I was actually thinking about this at the very beginnings of the project, but wasn't able to secure anyone to do it. It's a big shame, too; it's not as if it would require a lot of additional work. I'm already rebuilding the sound mix for all of the Anakin scenes (which means practically all of the Padme scenes). If anything, the quality of the mix would go up, not just due to superior acting, but the fact that it would mean I wouldn't have to deal with trying to cover up traces of music that they put into the center surround channel on the DVD, like I've been having to do. I wouldn't have to deal much with the original mix for those scenes at all, and it would actually create a cleaner mix.

The big issues are the following:

1. Time. I would need somebody...now. And I'd need all of the ADR in September, or maybe October, and I would need them sent at intervals.

2. I don't have a girlfriend currently, or anyone else that I could even remotely imagine agreeing to do this.

3. I don't know if anyone on this forum will be able to find a female that's

A. A good actress
B. A Star Wars fan
C. Enough of a Star Wars fan to sit down and do ADR for three Star Wars movies.

These gals are few and far in between. But yeah, that's the one thing that I'm regretting about this edit. That I didn't find someone to replace Padme. I agree that Portman was such a lousy actress in these movies, it's not even funny. Now that Hayden's voice is replaced, her awful delivery stands out even more.

If ANYONE has any ideas on this and is able to get the recordings pronto, plugging them in would be a very simple matter. And it would really take this thing to a whole different level. Because I've been noticing... it's really tough to create chemistry with only one person involved.

Wife, girlfriend? Anyone? Please? It's not that many scenes. I'll pay her 2000 credits....
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#240967
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Great news, hairy_hen! Glad everything worked out and you're back to do ADR

Meanwhile, I have completed the sound mix for about 1/5 of the movie, and rendered it out with video in full resolution just to have a look at it (in the RM format). Although I do fullscreen tests every once in a while, much of the time I'm only seeing the image in a pretty small box. And the cuts are slow, and all of the audio tracks don't always come through. So seeing so much of the work in fullscreen was really neat for me. There are all kinds of little details that you can't track unless you watch it this way.

There are several shots that are much too dark. There's a couple of dodgy audio sections I need to work out. And the volume levels on a lot of the dialogue are (in context) ridiculously off. But at the same time, there are a couple 2-3 minute chunks that are just sublime, with no distractions whatsoever and all technically sound. I'm also finding as I work that it's ridiculously easy to use the original ambiences throughout, because there's so much dead space in the original cut.

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I have another odd request to make- do any of you own Ridley Scott's "Alien" on DVD? If so, I was wondering if any of you could rip the 20th century fox logo from that film and briefly put it on the net for me. As I understand it, this is one of the best (if not the best) source of that particular version of the logo.

Thanks so much!

-TM
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#240676
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Hi folks! I haven't disappeared and am still at work on the film. I am currently working on the final mix, section by section. Obviously I haven't completed the sections with Jar-Jar, Uncle Owen, or the stormtroopers yet.

However, the good news is that we have (hopefully) two actors recording the stormtroopers and the officers. This will create more realistic "battle banter" in the action sequences. This only leaves the part of Uncle Owen to be filled (I know Jar-Jar is a work-in-progress at this point).

Another exciting thing I've found out is that I have the ability to plug in higher quality copies of any source I used (whether it's in the same file format or not) and achieve the exact same result, only in higher quality. This means that an HD print of SOTDS is technically possible with minimal effort on my part.

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Now, I want to address the interesting conceptual conversation we have going....

I was going to ask you if you'd had any success in making the analysis droid station into more of a Hal 9000 type interface? I know you had mentioned this before and I thought it was a great idea, but it's certainly wouldn't be easy. Hopefully something can be done about it though, because the droids are so visually distracting.

Sadly, no. And that scene (visually) will always irritate me. The same thing that happened with Uncle Owen happened with the special FX guy I was talking with; initially he agreed, but then later realized it was too time-consuming.

Because of this, I not only had to leave in the distracting CG robots, but I had to shorten the nightclub establishing shot from Blade Runner, and I had to attempt to turn the Anakin/Padme argument on Tatooine (about whether or not to rescue Obi-Wan) into a dusk scene by myself. If you recall, I changed the funeral scene to take place at sunset. This means that the following scene has to take place either at a later sunset/dusk, or nighttime. Nighttime was pretty much impossible for my abilities, so it wound up being dusk. I also had to do a lot of experimentation and color work to try and remove purple halos that appeared around Anakin's head on some close-ups. Upon close examination, I realized that the halos were actually already there (although much, much smaller), as a side-effect of the original compositing with blue-screen.

If this is your decision then I'd encourage you to use the KotR March for the Clonetrooper introduction and try to use similar KotR music for them throughout the film if you could. And the finale music is (IMO) the second best in the saga after ESB's, so I'd definitely keep the Imperial March in there as its big reveal.

This is what happened. I used the Kotor march for the introduction, and kept the Imperial March for the end.

I see your point; it's a lot of subtitles to take in in Episode I, but lip sync becomes a problem when you limit yourself to english, as you've experienced first hand in re-dubbing Anakin. For the betterment of the Gungans as a whole, they should have their own language.

It was definitely a problem (as it is with all ADR), but in the end I think it was very much worth it. And Preston has a good point, the point that it's not even as hard as doing lip synch to human lips - you're doing lip synch with a big animated beak.

i'm not really into the idea of him having a scottish/irish/british/australian twist at all.

Hey, just an idea. I'm not particularly set on that. But I think the following point is the best:

I simply cannot connect with an alien character that talks all the time, yet is babling in an alien language...it just doesn't connect with with the actors or story flow. I know that chewbacca never uddered anything in basic, yet he wasn't in full conversations with ANYONE , except solo on brief occasions. It just makes jar jar more useless if I have to stop and read what he is saying all the time....especially since we will be doing that for the nemoidians and any other alien through the movie.

I don't think such a main character like this should be subtitled for the whole movie. Subtitles are for the bad guys, the villains. There would be no rapport at all. I know how it feels, having watched more than one Ep. I edit featuring a subtitled Jar-Jar. It's fun for a while, and some of the dialogue (like in BOTF) is great, but it's a bit underwhelming in the end. Most people (myself included) loved it because it was so much better than the original, but I really think we should consider Jar-Jar directly speaking with the other actors, in English.

That's not to say that Boss Nass couldn't speak in "Gungan." And that's not to say that we couldn't treat Jar-Jar like Watto was treated in Episode I. He starts out speaking in Huttese (subtitled) for a bit, but most of the time he talks in English.

I think the best course of action at this point is for Sluggo to make two ADR recordings. One in an alien language, and one in English. That way, I'll have both and can make a decision as to what will work best for this movie.


Unfortunately we don't, and we also don't have access to the original "orchestral blowout" finale (as one of the LSO players referred to it), which I think would be the best thing to use.

I agree. I always wished that that had been released to the public.


Now, this may not be the way you want to do it, and that's fine, but if you do, then that would allow for creative touches like keeping the stormtroopers a surprise that would be really nice. I've already heard talk (either here or at Starkiller Ranch, I'm not sure) of people thinking Anakin becoming Vader should be edited so that it's still a surprise in ESB. It would be along those lines. I personally think those things would be a nice touch. At the same time, it depends on how you're handling it--like this is the first trilogy that came out, or like this came out afterwards, and you already know everything and want the coolness of seeing stuff happening and KNOWING that it's happening. Both approaches have their benefits. It's your edit. I'm just throwing out ideas.

Really, really good question. I frankly have no idea at this point.

Yeah, definately experiment with the nemoidians voice for different raspy, alien effects. The thing is these nemoidians have always LOOKED creepy as hell, its only their "doh de doh" human dialects were totally warped compared to their appearance. But I like the fact that we're having someone who is doing a real "alien" dubbing attempt for their dialouge.

I haven't been able to get "raspy" yet, but lowering and deepening the voice made a world of difference already.

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Thanks, everyone! November is approaching.....

-TM
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#239499
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Help Wanted: Can anyone do a STORMTROOPER imitation
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239499/action/topic#239499
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
How decent does the mike need to be? I imagine you'll be doing something to the audio to give it the filtered, radio broadcast effect that stormtroopers usually have?


Actually, that's a really good point. I am adding that effect, and also the intercom clicks (to match the OT). So yeah, actually the mike doesn't have to be that great at all. I'd imagine even just a computer mike would work. I'd be so grateful for anyone's help at this point! Just drop me a PM if you might be able to help.

Thanks!
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#239227
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Help Wanted: Can anyone do a STORMTROOPER imitation
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239227/action/topic#239227
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Hi I’m the editor on a fan edit of Ep. II titled “Shroud of the Dark Side”, coming out this fall. It’s the most extensive Star Wars edit ever done, and part of it involves dubbing new voices for many characters, for various reasons:

1. Anakin Skywalker
2. Lama-Su
3. Nute Gunray and companion
4. Jar-Jar Binks
5. Mas Ammeda
6. Jedi Analysis room robot
7. Uncle Owen
8. Boba Fett (?)
9. Clonetroopers

I have yet to find an actor for the clonetroopers, and I was wondering if any of you could help. Since accents are learned and not genetic, I would like the lines read with an American accent, like the ones in the OT. If any of you have a decent mike and would like to help out, PM me- I have some very interesting dialogue for you.

Thanks! You don’t know how much I appreciate this,

-TM

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#239226
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239226/action/topic#239226
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I've actually never heard the Kotor march- I'll download it and see what I think. As for the Dooku/Obi-Wan scene, I have looked at other option (like the one suggested), but found that in my opinion, the current cue brings the particular emotion that I want better than anything else I tried.

Oh yeah, and Trooperman, Jango has two lines in his helmet, the other being, "Don't move, Jedi!"

Thanks! I thought I might have missed another line.

I was just wondering...did you end up using any pieces of the deleted scenes in this edit? I seem to recall you were going to try and use some of the family scene?

Yes, I actually used a number of the deleted scenes, although they were changed just as much as other scenes in the film. The Jedi Analysis robot speaks in a different voice and has different dialogue (in order to eliminate Dex's Diner), the dinner scene is in, the bedroom scene is in (shortened and in a very different form), and the trial scene is in, again, with very different dialogue and music.

And to answer your question Weezer, TM is giving the Clonetroopers intercom clicks when they speak (unless that's changed without my knowledge).

That is correct. However, I haven't done that yet because I don't have an actor for the stormtroopers yet.


Now, how you handle the music is going to have to do with how you're wanting to handle the story. Trooperman, say someone has never seen the Star Wars movies, and knows nothing about who does what or anything. Are you trying to keep the turn of the clones a surprise for ROTS? If so, then it would be highly preferable to avoid the Imperial March. You could still use something with a somewhat--or even just potentially--menacing undertone, but make it more of a grand fanfare for this army that--in the end of the movie--will end up saving the day. If you use something that is sort of on the fence like that, where you aren't sure whether they will end up good or bad--because at this point, there's still a mystery afoot, and we don't know what's going on--then that sort of tone with a balance of excitement and possible threat is there, then you're wondering until the end, and you THINK you know they're good, and BAM! That sets you up for a shock in ROTS. If you want to go that route, then the Imperial March will give it up right away. On that note, the Trade Federation march would also be bad for that approach. If not, then there is more freedom there, and if you want the Imperial March, hey, go right ahead. No problems there.


Good point. I'm not exactly sure what my big picture plan is (after all, who has not seen Ep. II that is going to see a copy of this first? Realistically...) However, after thinking about it, I do want the Imperial March reveal to be at either the end of the film or in the next film. Not during that particular scene. It's also worth mentioning that there are no longer any little quotes of Vader's theme in relation to Anakin, in this film.

I also really like the new voice of Gunray. At first I thought such a replacement would be useless, but like that it really is a lot better than the original.

Thanks!


Oh, as far as Nute's voice goes, I like it so far. In the cantina of the original Star Wars, all the cantina creatures sounded they were talking from the bottom of a bucket. Could a little underlying base or echo be added to Nute?

Yes. Actually, I experimented with some things, and what really did the trick was actually lowering the pitch of his voice a bit, combined with a boost in the bass. Much, much better (not to say the original was bad).

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Regarding Jar-Jar, nobody seemed to like this idea, but I still think that if possible, Jar-Jar deserves to speak in English. He's such a main character in Ep. I; it doesn't seem professional in SW for such a main character to be subtitled so much. Imagine if C3PO was subtitled in Star Wars, for the entire film. My concept was for Jar-Jar to speak in an English/Australian accent, very light and without any aforementioned squealing and yelping. I know this is a lousy example, but imagine the frog in the Geico commercial.

However, I'd be happy with anything better than what we've got, really. And I agree that Jar-Jar should definitely not have a low voice.



Also, I have some bad news to bring you. Jeff Vitkuske, who was going to dub Uncle Owen, backed out of the project yesterday. He "couldn't get into it", apparently. Anyway, I'm stuck (and this is such a great scene, too).

If ANY of you sound remotely like PHIL BROWN, PM me immediately It's just one scene, and a funny one at that. I need this dub in order to cut the video.

I'm of course also looking for an actor to do the stormtroopers. I'm about to make a request in the General SW forum for that.

And I believe that hairy_hen is working on his part. Hopefully everything will come together

-TM

EDIT: I like the Kotor march! I'd love an uncompressed version...
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#238669
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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Obviously a bit more work is needed to synch the dialogue to the lips (but people will be reading the subtitles anyway). Also, the subtitles are not in the correct font right now. But at least you get an idea of what his voice is like.

going to be done in the classic Original Trilogy style, or in the Temuera Morrison style?

I'd like them done in the OT style. Since accents are learned and not genetic, there's no problem there.

You mentioned Stormtrooper voices, what's your stance on Jango himself? I thought it would be an interesting idea to dub his voice to be more OT-Boba Fett like when wearing the helmet, assuming it had a Vader-like modulator in it. This would go well with your OT-inspired idea the Stormtroopers all have different voices.

That's a really good idea. And to my knowledge, Jango only has one line with his helmet on. "Boba... get on board!" I'll see what I can do to modulate it.

As for the Qui-Gon cue, I can certainly try it and see how it works compared to the Hermann cue. If it's just the fact that it's from "Vertigo", I've used a good deal of other music from other movies as well. And there are the shots from Blade Runner and Dune. But if you watch "Vertigo" and you notice the cue, you'll see that it means something completely different in the context of that film.

I think it would be an effective tie-in, but maybe you were trying to ignore TPM's music completely.

See, that's the thing- I don't yet know how much of the original TPM soundtrack is being kept. I have retained "Duel of the Fates" and "Anakin's Theme" so far, but not much else.

I'm also stumped about what music to use for the clonetroopers marching below (with Lama-Su and Obi-Wan observing). The Trade Federation march? The Imperial March? A new march I'm thinking might be used in Ep. I? The Imperial March is a good idea, except that I want to have some musical tie-in between Ep. I and II.

-TM
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#238566
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238566/action/topic#238566
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Originally posted by: Commander Courage
The original Dooku/Obi-Wan scene was one of my favorites of the film, so maybe I'm just not as receptive to altering it as others are. One aspect I totally agree with is the visual cutting and close ups. The dialogue changes have me scratching my head though; why delete "Don't be so sure"? And while adding some more dramatic music to the scene may indeed be a benefit, this particular piece feels out of place. It doesn't help that it seems to come out of nowhere; there's no build up to the music or anything. I don't want to sound negative, I'm just offering some constructive criticism.

Also I'm going to try and be around more frequently then I have been over the past few months. I've been incredibly busy in the real world lately. But once again I offer my services as a creative consultant. Let the work continue...

Hey CC! Nice to have you back. Part of your concern with the music may be the volume; I could turn it down a bit. After watching the whole scene in context, however, I don't think the music comes out of nowhere. Maybe that'll help. It's like the scene in the original SW when Luke and Ben are talking. They hit an important topic (the Force), and the music suddenly starts. The beginning of that scene is unscored. I'm not saying it's the same thing, but I think maybe it'll feel better when you see the whole scene. As for me, removing the music is now more of a distraction than leaving it in

As for the little dialogue changes, I really don't have any deep reasons for them; I just did what I thought flowed well. Basically I thought that with a couple lines, we kind of lost some subtlety. Like, "Don't be so sure, young Jedi." The following line implies that Obi-Wan shouldn't be so sure. Just shortening it to "Young Jedi!" gives his line a more disgusted tone. As if to say, "How would you know? I knew him better than you did."

Originally posted by: boreddusty


This is very exciting to hear. This is one of my most hated scenes from the movie, and I'm very interested to see how you've improved it (not that it would take much to improve it.)


I don't want to give too much away, but know that it is very climactic and powerful now. I put a lot into this sequence, because I think they basically destroyed the character of Yoda in one fell swoop with this sequence.

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Things are looking very good. Firstly, I now have all of the ADR recordings for Lama-Su. They are all mixed into the picture.

Secondly, I now have all of the ADR recordings for NUTE GUNRAY. Many of you may know that I was planning to just follow the lead of the editors on Episode I in regards to alien languages (before InfoDroid quit the project). Suddenly, I realized that this was not possible, and also that I didn’t have any foreign language tracks to use for Nute, and also Jar-Jar. That’s when Sluggo came in and offered to take care of it. For Nute Gunray and his companion, he got two fluent speakers of Cebuano, a variant of the Tagalog language. Not only did they do an EXCELLENT job, but the audio quality itself is stunning (better than my setup). And the best part is that for any Tagalog speakers that may wind up watching this (however few), the spoken lines actually translate into the English subtitles. And proper nouns are obviously included. I’ll see if I can’t post a couple clips to show you. Anyway, all of Nute's lines are now mixed into the picture.

I am so happy with how Nute Gunray turned out, and I’m really looking forward to hearing Jar-Jar in the future. Apparently, Uncle Owen is being recorded this weekend, so all that leaves is “hairy_hen” as the blue guy that helps Palpatine, and a yet uncast actor to be the voice of the stormtroopers. I have most of the stormtrooper lines written already, however. PM me if you’re interested and you have a good imitation of this voice- I have some interesting dialogue for you.

So, what it’s looking like is that the video will be more or less locked down next week, September will be devoted to the creation of the PCM stereo audio mix, October will be fine-tuning, final color timing, quality control, and basically a catch-all for anything I didn’t get to, and we’re looking at an encode and release in November.

Stay tuned!

-TM
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#237458
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237458/action/topic#237458
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Originally posted by: Weezer12
I just had a good idea for the Anakin/Dooku exchange.

ANAKIN: “Your attempt on Padme’s life will cost you, Dooku. Prepare to meet your destiny.”
DOOKU: “Forget the girl. She’s replaceable.”
ANAKIN: “But your head isn’t.”
DOOKU: “I see you get as much fulfillment out of killing as I do.”
ANAKIN: “In your case, YES!” Anakin charges.


Ha ha! That's actually really funny (I think so, anyway). However, in this case I think the humour might undermine the point that Anakin is angry. I'm just afraid that Anakin will not come off as being as justified in his rush at Dooku.

Whereas MTH's version:

Anakin: Your attempt on Padme’s life will cost you. Prepare to meet your destiny.
Dooku: Forget the girl. She's replaceable. Come, come. Admit it-- You get as much fullfillment out of killing as I do.
Anakin: No! (He attacks)



...comes off as more dramatic. Know that I'm not just being polite, though; I'd love to use that exchange! It just doesn't seem right for the scene because the audience won't take the thing seriously after that, I don't think.


'Fulfillment' is a bit heady. Replace it with 'pleasure' and I could see that interchange working. Possibly.


I wish I had "pleasure", but I just checked the recording and it is in fact "fullfillment."


What is the name of the music used in the Obi-Wan/Dooku scene?

It's from the soundtrack of "Vertigo" (by Bernard Hermann). I thought it worked well with the scene, and it isn't the recognizable love theme, so I used it.

And in response to Darth Richard's question...yes, I could release a disc with the "Long time ago" title card changed. But I almost don't want to do that until I know if there's anything else that might need to be changed to fit into the series. Since there is no "series" at this point (just this movie), I'll probably just make one disc for now, and maybe figure out seamless branching.

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I have finished the arena battle (aside from some mixing work), and I've cut the final confrontation between Yoda, Dooku, and Anakin. Wow. It took awhile to figure out exactly how it was going to work, but it's incredibly powerful (and suspenseful) now. All accomplished without any Force lightning, any rocks being thrown, or Yoda bouncing around with a lightsaber. And, I've cut out all of Yoda's ridiculous facial expressions and hand movements while lifting the pillar, in keeping with his teachings in ESB ("Size matters not"). I'm confident that the "old" George Lucas would like this sequence

-TM
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#236885
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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I'd love to see SOTDS edited so that Anakin's rage is played up after Padme falls. Maybe a few closeup shots of him looking disraught and distracted as the gunship continues to pursue Dooku.

That's a really good idea. Sometimes you get lost in the particulars of a scene and forget the big picture. I will definitely do this.

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Anakin: Padme is probably dead right now- because of you. Prepare to meet your destiny!
Dooku: Come, come. Forget the girl. She’s replaceable!
Anakin: AAAHHH
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I actually like that line, Erik. It’s simple and to the point.

But I actually don’t have that line at this time. When I borrowed “Man with the Golden Gun”, I forgot to rip that line, as fate would have it. If there is no prominent background music in the film at that time, then I’d really like to use the line.

Again, I’d love it if some kind person with “Golden Gun” could rip that line (“Forget the girl; she’s replaceable”). I have all of the other useful Chris Lee lines from that movie- I just need that one. I could try and borrow the film again, but that takes time.

This help would be very much appreciated!

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How's this:

Anakin: Padme is probably dead right now, because of you. Any last words?
Dooku: Come, come. The girl is replaceable.
Anakin: I'm about to take your head off.
Dooku: You get as much fulfillment out of killing as I do!
Anakin charges.

Obi-Wan: Anakin! No!


It's hard to write the scene without knowing what tone of voice Lee uses for "The girl is replaceable."


If he really thought she was dead, there wouldn't be the mild aggression that he shows in the movie, but pure rage.

That's what the new ADR could be used for. Besides, I don't think he really thinks she's dead, but in case she is, Dooku must die a painful death. It's the thought that counts, anyway. The thing is, we have to establish that Dooku's general smug attitude makes Anakin run at him more quickly than he would have otherwise.

EDIT: I love the line, "Prepare to meet your destiny," Marvolo.
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Anakin: Your attempt on Padme’s life will not go unpunished today. It is the last mistake you’ll ever make.
Dooku: Come, come. You enjoy killing as much as I do- admit it.
Anakin: No!

An alternate could be…

Anakin: In your case- YES!

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Just to recap, the reason I keep including “Padme” in Anakin’s line is that this is the one thing he cares about. And he’s very angry right now and wanting to avenge whatever harm she’s suffered by attacking the man responsible. So a line like, "You slaughter your own kind, for this we will extinguish your force" doesn’t really convey the anger that I’d like. The anger has to be present for Anakin’s charge to make any sense.

What went wrong in the original cut is just that- Anakin giving a kind of nonchalant, unemotional reading, and then suddenly charging for no reason.

But I understand that you’d like the Darth Vader elegance present as well, which I’m definitely considering.
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Originally posted by: Zion
Originally posted by: adywan
Does anyone know what font is used for the end credits? I'm planning on completely redoing the end credits and adding Darth Editous' name, and anyone elses name that has contributed to this project, in with the credits.
I'm not 100% sure it was the right font, but for my ROTS DVD, I used "Franklin Gothic Medium Cond Regular" to create the end credits. I hope that helps.



I did a lot of trial-and-error in an attempt to figure this out, and the closest I could get was also "Franklin Gothic Medium Cond Regular". However, the capital letters seem slightly thicker in Lucasfilm's credits. But I've settled for this as being close enough- you can't tell the difference unless you have both fonts on the same card.

I would blur the text slightly, however, to match the other credits.