Tobar

Phew.

Just came across this and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it before:

dgraham414 said:

I was gonna post this in Hal’s Ascendant thread but I didn’t want to derail discussions of his excellent edit so here it is.

Alright, I am mad at Star Wars fans again… Did ANYONE really think that they would plan out the three movies fully in advance? The originals didn’t do that… the PREQUELS didn’t do that.

The difference is that both the OT and the PT were created from the singular vision of one person. They had other writers and artists that contributed massively but it was all done under the approval of a single person, George Lucas.

The Sequel Trilogy had no singular vision. Each film was done in a vacuum with the next one being written while the previous was still in production. There is no cohesion between them. And that is why they fail.

With just a little planning this mess could have been avoided. To make it work, all they needed to do was figure out who their writers and directors were going to be and then sit them all down in a room together to figure out what the overarching story would be. Hash out the big picture ahead of time instead of doing it all piecemeal.

But they didn’t do that and this is the result.

ExpandedUniverses said:

I made a new thread, since this website doesn’t have a way to change thread titles. Thanks!

I went ahead and changed the title for you but you can change the title of the thread yourself here:

(Thanks to Fated-Dualist for the screenshot!)

We’ve merged your two threads. Please keep future projects contained to one thread in the future. Thank you.

Hal 9000 said:

So maybe it’d be better overall to leave in the references to lightspeed skipping, though I am certainly leaving the sequence itself out.

I’m personally still for completely excising any reference to it. It’s better left forgotten.

NeverarGreat said:

Star Wars is notable for how poorly the original elements of the film have fared. For one, the film negative had severe problems with fading which made it difficult to restore even in 1997, and it has only faded more since then. There is also the fragility of the negative - certain parts were lost when subjected to the cleaning process.

To expound on that for the curious:

Tanaka: I remember when we were working on the Star Wars restoration, that was a different process. I think we optically recreated interpositives. But in order to do this, it went through some kind of warm chemical bath cleansing. The weird thing about Star Wars was that it was made up of different film stocks, so it went through this bath and they didn’t know what would come out on the other end…

Parker: You mean if it would survive or not? ‘George we might destroy your entire film, but it’s… we think it’s going to be OK.’

Tanaka: There’s a space battle shot and a close-up on Hans Solo, and the original negative is coming out of this cleaning solution and it’s just acetate.

Parker: It’s all clear. Oh no, did the bath dissolve it?

Tanaka: Yeah, it dissolved it, depending on the film stock.

Source

skenera said:

The amount of blue can easily be tweaked by increasing or decreasing the opacity of the de-blued clips before applying the LUT.
Comparison: http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/7KZYLNNX

Brewzter said:

Fully agreed- 50% deblue + LUT is by far the best. It’s the perfect blend between looking “real” but still having that slight blue glow… and you’re so right haha, the original looks even more ridiculous now

Axios said:

50% deblue with LUT looks fantastic IMO!

You know, I was gonna go on the side of full de-blued but then I did a comparison with ROTJ Obi:

And I have to agree, the 50% reduction + LUT looks pretty good.

JakeRyan17 said:

If you instead wanna go by years, Anakin had that saber throughout the five years of The Clone Wars, Luke had it about 2-3 years, and Rey had it for a single year. With that, then we have Anakin building it and using it for longer than Luke and Rey combined, and Luke building and using a different saber for 25-30 years.

The Clone Wars were only 3 years though.

Anyway, I can see the logic behind the edit idea, it just doesn’t seem necessary.

Brewzter said:

Has it been considered to change all of the dialogue about Anakin’s saber to reflect that it’s his? For example, Maz’s line in TFA is fine: “That lightsaber belonged to Luke, and his father before him” but there are lines in TROS that call it Luke’s when it’s, well, not. Luke built his own. For example, when Rey tells Leia “I will earn your brother’s saber” could brother somehow be replaced with father?

Luke owned it for two films while Anakin only had it for one. It was definitely Luke’s just as it was Anakin’s before that.

Yeah I’ve been a fan of Dave’s for years now. All of his interviews where he gets to deep dive into Star Wars are great.

canofhumdingers said:

One, there’s some short but great behind-the-scenes footage from the OT that’s clearly been restored in HD or better. Makes me wonder what else they’ve got tucked away in their archives. FWIW this footage may have already been seen in some of the previously released BD or 4K disc sets.

We got confirmation a couple years back that the LFL archive has been digitizing their entire video collection. There’s been a couple cool instances of new never before seen footage popping up since then. The Making of TROS for example has BTS footage from ROTJ that had never been released before. It really is exciting to think about what other treasures they have at their finger tips now.

There are actual motion-control shots of spaceship miniatures! They even talk about how it actually costs more to do that than CGI now, but the filmmakers wanted it so bad they managed to make a “Low budget garage version” of the dykstraflex to make those shots happen.

Yeah they talked about the miniature work at Celebration before the series was released. That’s what got me the most hyped about the series. The revelation that there was actually a stop motion shot of a blurrg in the show sent me over the moon.

I’ve got a few more episodes to go but it has made me love the show even more. The people working on this show clearly understand what went right for the OT to capture lightning in a bottle, so to speak, and are doing an amazing job expanding (rather than shrinking…) the Galaxy far far away. I can’t help but feel this is the team that should’ve been in charge of the ST.

Yeah Filoni and Favreau have a clear and deep passion for Star Wars and I really hope they get more say over its future.

The Dreaming Jewels by Theodore Sturgeon

The first novel by Theodore Sturgeon. A little rough around the edges as is to be expected of an author’s first work. But an entertaining read with interesting characters.

DZ-330 said:

jkimm said:

Are the stormtroopers still going to say “Knights of Ren… Ghouls” or are you planning on making them silent and just look at each other? Seems like half of us thought they were saying “cool”.

I would love for them to be silent and just have that look of unease. We don’t need them to give us story details.

Sounds like Hal’s already decided but I just wanted to also voice my strong dislike of the ghouls line. Took me right out of the movie in the theater.

If we do it’ll be years down the road. Investors aren’t biting anymore and I think it’ll need time away from the popular culture to distance itself from the last few attempts. The current series aren’t helping that matter.

dgraham414 said:

Or you could show it heal in Ben’s hand when he shrugs. You could do it with the audio and e visual of The crackling could just fade out back to normal.

Or like right before he shrugs.
He pulls the blade out and it’s still crackling, it transitions to normal and the audio is where most of this happens. Some sort of healing sound? Then the knights reaction then the shrug.

That would make it seem like Ben healed it. This is all starting to sound very convoluted. Having it crackle the whole film seems to be the best option.

Andrew Wilson the CEO of EA referred to Fallen Order as the "first title in an entirely new franchise” in a recent conference call.

I’m on board for option A.

Knight of Kalee said:

Tobar said:

I kind of get the feeling he originally intended Hosnian Prime to be Coruscant but LFL stepped in on that.

That would have felt more like a middle finger to the prequel era than a wink to the fans lol

That’s what I’m saying. He’s never been a fan of the prequels.

I kind of get the feeling he originally intended Hosnian Prime to be Coruscant but LFL stepped in on that.

I’m confused why the First Order would still have a presence at Jakku after Rey and Finn left. It’s even more remote than Tatooine.

I really like that last mock up Hal. The only thing I would recommend, if it’s possible, is to rearrange the battle so that the first shot of Kylo isn’t that close-up shot. It feels jarring to cut from that long shot of the troops to a sudden close-up.

Everything else felt spot on.

My concern is adding all of these new blasting into hyperspace while in atmosphere shots. The Falcon does it at the end of the film and now Ochi’s ship will too? Atmospheric use of hyperdrives is something that has started to slip into new canon but it still feels wrong and certainly not something that should be overused.

I’m thankful any and all reference to lightspeed skipping are excised just for my own sanity.

Poor Boolio, I just don’t get the hate for him.