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#1277759
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - Star Wars live action TV series : <strong>Non Spolier</strong> thread
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ZkinandBonez said:

It also had a callback to Boba Fett’s first apperance in the Holiday Special cartoon

That one was a bit of a combo reference:


This series is going to be packed with all kinds of references given this and things like Favreau posting a picture of the ESB ice cream maker on his instagram.

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#1277706
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - Star Wars live action TV series : <strong>Non Spolier</strong> thread
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Highly recommend anyone interested to check out the panel. Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni LOVE Star Wars and have put their hearts and souls into it.

Not only that, one of Favreau’s goals was to try to appeal to every kind of Star Wars fan so he’s put in as much stuff from the last 40 years of Star Wars into it as he could. He specifically called out that he’s recanonized a ton of EU material in the series.

My personal favorite thing that I’ve seen so far from the series are the Blurrgs which originally appeared in the Ewok movie Battle For Endor! But there’s so much more in there.

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#1277413
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<em><strong>Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order</strong></em> (Video Game)
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Cal Kestis—one of the last surviving members of the Jedi Order after the purge of Order 66—is now a Padawan on the run. Experience this all-new single-player Star Wars™ story from Respawn Entertainment and EA Star Wars on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC this holiday season, 15 November 2019.

Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order is an action-adventure game set after Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith™. Develop your Force abilities, hone your lightsaber techniques, and explore the ancient mysteries of a long-lost civilization—all while staying one step ahead of the Empire and its deadly Inquisitors.

Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order — Official Reveal Trailer
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order — Full Celebration Panel

Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order — Official Gameplay Demo
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order — Official Gameplay Reveal Live Stream

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#1277353
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

Honestly the whole idea is really nagging at me. I have so many thoughts about it going through my head. Like how long have they planned this? You would think they just came up with it now, but it ties in very, very well with a lot of the expanded material stuff in the last few years. It actually sounds to me like something George might’ve come up with in his treatments. But then, if they had it plannned, why are there no hints at it in either TFA or TLJ?

You should know by now they’ve been winging it the whole time. Here’s JJ talking about just that:

JJ Abrams said:

But without getting in the weeds on episode eight, that was a story that Rian wrote and was telling based on seven before we met. So he was taking the thing in another direction. So we also had to respond to Episode VIII. So our movie was not just following what we had started, it was following what we had started and then had been advanced by someone else…the lack of a complete structure for this thing, given the way it was being run was an enormous challenge…I feel like we might’ve done it. Like, I actually feel like this crazy challenge that could have been a wildly uncomfortable contortion of ideas, and a kind of shoving-in of answers and Band-Aids and bridges and things that would have felt messy. Strangely, we were sort of relentless and almost unbearably disciplined about the story and forcing ourselves to question and answer some fundamental things that at the beginning, I absolutely had no clue how we would begin to address.

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#1277300
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Matt.F said:

I agree, it might not be Palpatine in physical form… but we haven’t yet seen the Sith equivalent of a Force Ghost have we?

A Sith Wraith perhaps? (SW has never been shy pinching bits and bobs from other mythology and that would be rather Sauron like).

Actually…

nl0428 said:

I think we can acknowledge that the Ewok movies are no longer canon, and Disney doesn’t consider them canon either.

Actually…

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#1276220
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Celebration 2019 - Chicago; 11th to 15th April
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nl0428 said:

My first Celebration was the previous one in Orlando in 2017.

I won’t be able to go this year. I am quite busy at the moment. However, even if I could go this year, I wouldn’t take this opportunity based upon the state of the fanbase. Because of how toxic the fanbase is right now, I’m afraid that there will be bullies there or worse, fights may break out. Now there’s. very good chance that these scenarios don’t happen, and most hateful fans won’t even attend Celebration, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the audience boos some cast and crew members as they walk on stage. I know that during Battlefront II’s canal in Orlando the crowd booed when EA announced that micro-transactions would be present within the game.

None of this will happen. Those kind won’t bother going to Celebration in the first place. There’s a big difference between the anonymity provided by the internet and facing others in real life.

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#1275033
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Shopping Maul said:

Okay, so did the DS reactor in ROTJ have the same implanted flaw? What about the reactor on the Trade Federation ship? The saga clearly shows us that hitting the reactors can blow these things up. All three films demonstrate, as you quoted, that a hit to the reactor should do the trick.

In TPM and ROTJ they were able to get direct shots on the main reactor of those ships. In Star Wars they have to hit a vulernable reactor module that will set off a chain reaction that leads to the destruction of the main reactor.

Or the third choice - it all went down like the original movie said it did and the rebels simply exercised great ingenuity borne of desperation and, thanks to Luke Skywalker, achieved the nigh impossible.

Nothing in Rogue One precludes what you just said.

Yes, not the Tantive itself. The dialogue makes no sense.

Sorry, I’m confused here. So Vader didn’t know the plans were being handed through the door and was only preventing any escapes. So why pursue the Tantive at all? It only makes sense to pursue Leia if he thinks the plans are aboard - and he’s only going to know this by virtue of having seen the plans being handed through the doorway - which means he knows they weren’t transmitted - which means the dialogue in ANH makes no sense…

Why persue the Tantive? Precisely because he suspects the plans are aboard. The plans obviously weren’t found in the main computer of the Profundity so Vader likely suspects they were beamed directly to the Tantive. Even failing that, the Tantive was birthed inside the Profundity at the time the plans were transmitted. Making the Tantive tantamount to an extension of Profundity itself. Either way, the Tantive is directly tied to receiving the plans so of course it would be persued.

The whole point in ANH is that Vader’s holding her on suspicion alone - hence “holding her is dangerous, if word gets out etc etc”. Vader says “I have traced the rebel spies to her…”. Why not just say “she was present at the battle of Scariff, resisted arrest, and is now a war criminal”?

As was just covered, Vader does suspect the plans are onboard precisely because the Tantive is tied to these transmissions from Scarif.

And why not just say this to Leia, rather than some song and dance about supposed diplomatic missions to Alderaan?

I already went over why Leia is giving him a song and dance. And if you watch the scene again you’ll see Vader cut straight through her cover story every time she tries to use it: “Don’t act so surprised your highness, you weren’t on any mercy mission this time.” “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!”

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#1274969
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Shopping Maul said:

Does it actually say that about the reactor in RO (genuine question, I’ve only seen the film once)?

“The reactor module, that’s the key…any pressurized explosion to the reactor module will set off a chain reaction that will destroy the entire station.”

Aren’t volatile reactors all the rage throughout the saga? Anakin blows up a Trade Federation ship by accidentally hitting the reactor with big torpedoes. Death Star II is all about hitting the reactor. The Super-Star Destroyer cops it in the ol’ reactor too!

Take it up with Star Wars (1977):
“The shaft leads directly to the reactor system. A precise hit will start a chain reaction which should destroy the station.” - General Dodonna, Star Wars

Look, I get it. Many fans didn’t think the initial Death Star takedown was plausible, and RO supposedly answers that age-old question.

Uh…what? “Many fans”? Gonna need to see some examples of that as I’ve never heard that brought up as an issue. Let alone enough to make it an “age-old question.”

Shopping Maul said:

I’m probably gonna get slapped here, but I despise this film. Talk about Special editions - this film is ‘Han Shot First’ on steroids. Placing the Tantive at the battle itself and having Vader - who had just seen the rebels passing the plans through a doorway - suddenly get his facts wrong (“several transmissions were beamed to this ship…”),

Several transmissions were beamed to the ship that the Tantive was docked inside of:

The data from the drive that Erso took was uploaded in four simultaneous transmissions.
The dialog from the film confirms this, “Admiral, receiving transmissions from Scarif!”
As for Vader’s dialog, humdinger has already addressed how Vader isn’t shown to know that a Rebel is trying to get the plans onboard the Tantive. At that time all Vader is concerned with is stopping anyone from escaping. Where the plans are is a secondary concern to stopping the Tantive from launching.

followed by an interrogation with Leia that doesn’t remotely reflect what Vader has supposedly just witnessed

They both know she’s been caught red handed but that doesn’t mean she has to capitulate and admit to everything or anything. In that situation all she can do is deny, deny, deny and hope that Artoo can escape with the plans. And Vader knows she’s lying and openly calls her out on it, “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!”

…and all so we can see Vader exhibit a particular badassery that he fails to wield ten minutes later in 1977?!?

As has already been pointed out, Vader was in a rush to stop the Tantive from launching before. By the time he’s caught up with them, they’re trapped with nowhere left to go. He doesn’t need to charge in. Why take the brunt of an attack when you have lackeys to do that for you?

Rogue One is by no means a perfect film but I would say it does an excellent job of capturing the feel of the OT era and of delivering on its original mandate which was to bring these opening paragraphs to life:

It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have won
their first victory against
the evil Galactic Empire.

During the battle, Rebel
spies managed to steal secret
plans to the Empire’s
ultimate weapon, the DEATH
STAR, an armored space
station with enough power to
destroy an entire planet.

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#1274760
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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MalàStrana said:

The issue is not about being logical or not, the real trick is: this piece of information of the DS being sabotaged by its own engineer is a rationalization of something magical/Force related in ANH, and it was totally unecessary. That’s why I compare that to the midichlorians: going for magic to something… logical, mathematical, biological, rational… it goes 100% against the spirit of the OT and particularly of ANH.

When I get some more time I intend to come back and address Shopping’s main post but for now I’ll just address this.

Nothing in Rogue One contradicts Luke’s achievement in SW.

The struggle in Star Wars is trying to land a direct hit down the thermal exhaust port to set off a chain reaction. Something that all the other pilots proclaim is next to impossible.

That weakness in the design whether it was intentional or not has no bearing on the inherit difficulty of exploiting it.

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#1273877
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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SilverWook said:

There was a small display screen in the Falcon cockpit. I presume for the Navi computer? It’s seen (and heard) being used in ESB, but we never actually see what they’re looking at, so darned if I know where it actually is on the console.

It’s a small screen to the left of the center of the console:

You can see it on set in this BTS pic:

Luke’s Landspeeder was intended to have a scanner display, and animation for tracking down Artoo was actually made but was cut.