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#1274969
Topic
Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Shopping Maul said:

Does it actually say that about the reactor in RO (genuine question, I’ve only seen the film once)?

“The reactor module, that’s the key…any pressurized explosion to the reactor module will set off a chain reaction that will destroy the entire station.”

Aren’t volatile reactors all the rage throughout the saga? Anakin blows up a Trade Federation ship by accidentally hitting the reactor with big torpedoes. Death Star II is all about hitting the reactor. The Super-Star Destroyer cops it in the ol’ reactor too!

Take it up with Star Wars (1977):
“The shaft leads directly to the reactor system. A precise hit will start a chain reaction which should destroy the station.” - General Dodonna, Star Wars

Look, I get it. Many fans didn’t think the initial Death Star takedown was plausible, and RO supposedly answers that age-old question.

Uh…what? “Many fans”? Gonna need to see some examples of that as I’ve never heard that brought up as an issue. Let alone enough to make it an “age-old question.”

Shopping Maul said:

I’m probably gonna get slapped here, but I despise this film. Talk about Special editions - this film is ‘Han Shot First’ on steroids. Placing the Tantive at the battle itself and having Vader - who had just seen the rebels passing the plans through a doorway - suddenly get his facts wrong (“several transmissions were beamed to this ship…”),

Several transmissions were beamed to the ship that the Tantive was docked inside of:

The data from the drive that Erso took was uploaded in four simultaneous transmissions.
The dialog from the film confirms this, “Admiral, receiving transmissions from Scarif!”
As for Vader’s dialog, humdinger has already addressed how Vader isn’t shown to know that a Rebel is trying to get the plans onboard the Tantive. At that time all Vader is concerned with is stopping anyone from escaping. Where the plans are is a secondary concern to stopping the Tantive from launching.

followed by an interrogation with Leia that doesn’t remotely reflect what Vader has supposedly just witnessed

They both know she’s been caught red handed but that doesn’t mean she has to capitulate and admit to everything or anything. In that situation all she can do is deny, deny, deny and hope that Artoo can escape with the plans. And Vader knows she’s lying and openly calls her out on it, “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!”

…and all so we can see Vader exhibit a particular badassery that he fails to wield ten minutes later in 1977?!?

As has already been pointed out, Vader was in a rush to stop the Tantive from launching before. By the time he’s caught up with them, they’re trapped with nowhere left to go. He doesn’t need to charge in. Why take the brunt of an attack when you have lackeys to do that for you?

Rogue One is by no means a perfect film but I would say it does an excellent job of capturing the feel of the OT era and of delivering on its original mandate which was to bring these opening paragraphs to life:

It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have won
their first victory against
the evil Galactic Empire.

During the battle, Rebel
spies managed to steal secret
plans to the Empire’s
ultimate weapon, the DEATH
STAR, an armored space
station with enough power to
destroy an entire planet.

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#1274760
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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MalàStrana said:

The issue is not about being logical or not, the real trick is: this piece of information of the DS being sabotaged by its own engineer is a rationalization of something magical/Force related in ANH, and it was totally unecessary. That’s why I compare that to the midichlorians: going for magic to something… logical, mathematical, biological, rational… it goes 100% against the spirit of the OT and particularly of ANH.

When I get some more time I intend to come back and address Shopping’s main post but for now I’ll just address this.

Nothing in Rogue One contradicts Luke’s achievement in SW.

The struggle in Star Wars is trying to land a direct hit down the thermal exhaust port to set off a chain reaction. Something that all the other pilots proclaim is next to impossible.

That weakness in the design whether it was intentional or not has no bearing on the inherit difficulty of exploiting it.

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#1273877
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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SilverWook said:

There was a small display screen in the Falcon cockpit. I presume for the Navi computer? It’s seen (and heard) being used in ESB, but we never actually see what they’re looking at, so darned if I know where it actually is on the console.

It’s a small screen to the left of the center of the console:

You can see it on set in this BTS pic:

Luke’s Landspeeder was intended to have a scanner display, and animation for tracking down Artoo was actually made but was cut.

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#1273434
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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Quattro Bajeena said:

Tobar said:

rodneyfaile said:

Fang Zei said:

Seriously, how long do we wait before drafting a new petition that simply opens with “Dear Walt Disney Company”?

I was so certain the Unaltered Original Trilogy would be announced during Celebration for the 40th anniversary. While standing in various lines I would mention it during conversation and always the same response… blank stares. It was like I was speaking latin or something. I don’t know if they just had no idea what I was talking about or were just devoted to whatever is said to be the official version that the idea of anything else was blasphemous.

I know how that is. I learned to stop bringing the subject up at Celebration after I started getting belligerent and pedantic responses toward it. It’s a truly sad state of affairs.

And I thought I was the one with a problem when I had more than 5 different versions of the ESB and still wasn’t satisfied. LOL

Coversation would usually go one of two ways:

Tobar: So do you think they’ll ever release the original theatrical versions?
Rudeman: What do you mean by original exactly? You know there really is no such thing as one original version! There were different sound mixes released simultaneously in theaters, which is the original?!? You know there were changes made between the 35mm and 70mm versions of the films! And what about the different crawl when they re-released A New Hope??? So you see, there are no original versions because there’ve always been multiple versions from the start!

or

Tobar: So do you think they’ll ever release the original theatrical versions?
Rudedude: Excuse me? Why would I want incomplete films?!?

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#1273365
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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rodneyfaile said:

Fang Zei said:

Seriously, how long do we wait before drafting a new petition that simply opens with “Dear Walt Disney Company”?

I was so certain the Unaltered Original Trilogy would be announced during Celebration for the 40th anniversary. While standing in various lines I would mention it during conversation and always the same response… blank stares. It was like I was speaking latin or something. I don’t know if they just had no idea what I was talking about or were just devoted to whatever is said to be the official version that the idea of anything else was blasphemous.

I know how that is. I learned to stop bringing the subject up at Celebration after I started getting belligerent and pedantic responses toward it. It’s a truly sad state of affairs.

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#1271709
Topic
Topher Grace Saga Trailer
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I thoroughly enjoyed it. It managed to unite various parts of the franchise I’m not a fan of and make them feel like they really are all part of a whole. It evoked that special Star Wars feeling that I haven’t felt in ages. The deleted scenes were used impeccability.

I hope this leads to him getting to work with Lucasfilm. He clearly loves and understands this far, far away galaxy.

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#1270204
Topic
Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

I know that the title “Balance of the Force” has been used on some Star Wars content in the past, but the title “The Last Jedi” was also used before in the past too.

Wasn’t the first time either:

nl0428 said:

As for Episode IX’s marketing, I think that it will be marketed as the last installment of the sequel trilogy, but not the main saga.

It already is being marketed as the last of the saga. This is from the original cast announcement for IX:

STAR WARS: EPISODE IX CAST ANNOUNCED
Star Wars: Episode IX will begin filming at London’s Pinewood Studios on August 1, 2018. J.J. Abrams returns to direct the final installment of the Skywalker saga.