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#224120
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Star Wars in High Definition: OT clips from "Science of Star Wars" in HD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224120/action/topic#224120
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Mark my words - HD-DVD will win the war. Why? because of the name. HD = Hi Definition. The average joe on the street can understand that. We already have HBO HD, ESPN HD, etc, and the initials HD are slowly slipping into the public subconscious. So HD will win because of the name. Silly, but true.


Heh, I've thought that myself a number of times. I hope that won't be the deciding factor though, and there's a good chance it won't be do to the early expense and availability that will plague both formats. Plus, even the name might be a bonus since Blu-ray stands out as more unique, and, if anything, people are identifying Blu-Ray disks as a kind of HD-DVD as well, and the superior HD-DVD at that.
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#224119
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Explaining the shoddy OOT treatment in public
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224119/action/topic#224119
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Originally posted by: THX
The D1 master tapes are digital, not analogue. They have higher color resolution than DVD and equal pixel resolution to DVD. They will reproduce better on a modern digital video format like DVD than they did on VHS or Laserdisc. They will be no more prone to compression artifacts (which are inherent to the DVD format) than any other DVD transfer (in fact, compression artifacts will likely be less than they would be on an anamorphic DVD, which would contain more picture information and thus require more compression).


If that ends up being the truth, then I will certainly buy a copy. Otherwise I do not see how or why Lucasfilm could have botched their public relations so badly. They should have simply said they were going to use an older digital master that will allow a transfer at top DVD quality. Instead, they go on about "Laserdiscs" (which have horrible resolution next to DVDs) and otudated video technology to upset everyone.
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#223951
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Explaining the shoddy OOT treatment in public
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223951/action/topic#223951
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Originally posted by: Zion

This doesn't make any sense to me. The answer seems to go off on a tangent about HDTV when the claim makes no allusions to it at all. Of course the film looked better in the theater than on home video. To ask for an HD transfer of it is justified, but to me the claim is only referring to the version of the film, not its resolution.


Technically, since the original film version is analog, wouldn't even an HD transfer incorrectly represent some of the details?

Still, I think Vigo's point answers its attached question in the sense that an HDTV version would probably be the ultimate visual way to represent the original film quality at home.
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#223948
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223948/action/topic#223948
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But it feels so dirty. I was willing to spend quite a bit of money over a month ago to make my own DVD transfer of the films, so its not necessarily the cost. I just don't want to give Lucas money when we all know he could do so much better. Even the crappiest of movies are given better treatment on DVD than the original Star Wars? I won't reward that . . . .

(Edit: changed "just a month" to "over a month". Some time before this latest DVD news sprung up. I'm terrible at noting the passage of time.)
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#223854
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Lucas may have caved, here is a link to Barnes & Noble early review of the O-OT DVD's:
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223854/action/topic#223854
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We can only hope, but I have a great deal of trouble believing it is true.

Interestingly, the list of features for each DVD on B&N says the following:

"Disc 1:; Commentary by George Lucas, Irvin Kershner, Ben Burtt, Lawrence Kasdan, Dennis Muren, and Carrie Fisher; Easter Egg - Credit Roll; ; Disc 2:; XBox Playable Game Demo; Lego Game Trailer"

Notice how for disk two it doesn't mention anything about a theatrical release? Wasn't Lucasfilm considering the theatrical release to be a bonus feature?
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#223680
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223680/action/topic#223680
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle

I'm sharing, people...


Group-hug.

The fans of the Star Wars universe simply believed the backstory would somehow folow the descriptions we were given in the actual OT movies and that such a backstory would actually do the original films justice. Instead, we got backstory that does not fit with what was mentioned in the OT and one that greatly lessens the entire existence of OT plot elements and characters. Who cares about Han and Lea? Who cares if Luke is in anguish over being Vader's son? Its all one big, boring and illogical "saga" now!
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#223577
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223577/action/topic#223577
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Hah, this is why Tolkien is such a genius. When he edits his story he actually makes that fact a part of his stories. Originally it seems that Gollum riddled against Bilbo with the "one ring" as the clearly presented prize. The LotR Gollum on the other hand would have never allowed that, so Tolkien explained the earlier version of the story as a lie Bilbo invented to ease his conscience over stealing the ring.
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#223551
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223551/action/topic#223551
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Originally posted by: Max_Rebo

although it is true that Tolkien's books were consistent he did edit the Hobbit in later editions to fit in with Lord of the Rings, he only edited the chapter where Bilbo meets Gollum but all the versions in print today are the edited version, although you can find the revisions in Appendix A of ' The Annotated Hobbit'(1988), in it's edited form "It represents as closely as is possible Tolkien's final intended form"


How very interesting. The Hobbit was my favorite story growing up as a child and it's still my favorite book of all time. I always read from an old, tattered copy of the book so I wonder which version I had always read. This will require research on my part.
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#223421
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223421/action/topic#223421
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We wouldn't need to rationalize anything if Lucas had even the semblance of a logically coherent mind.

On a related note, for fans of Middle Earth and The-Hobbit/Lord-of-the-Rings, Tolkien had one incredibly consistent, but amazingly complex universe to his credit. Too bad Jackson's movies didn't do Tolkien's mythology justice. Though, then again, Tolkien's writing in the LotR was very dry and so I can overlook Jackson's alterations somewhat.
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#223420
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Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223420/action/topic#223420
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Originally posted by: JediFlyer06
I would argue that the only thing that saved Jedi was Kasdan's influence, however diminished it was at that time.


You're probably right, but I still thought the Ewoks were somewhat cool myself. Well, except for that scene where a few get blasted by storm troopers. I never understood, even as a kid, why that was suppose to be sad. They were random little furry creatures.
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#223230
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Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223230/action/topic#223230
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Originally posted by: JacDan
I dunno, ESB seemed too good for either Lucas or Kasdan to write, especially in comparison to ROTJ. Unless someone heads over to the Eastern New Mexico University in Portales, New Mexico and reads the draft, I guess we'll never really know who's responsible for what.


Perhaps Empire simply had a better producer and director?
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#223227
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Should Wedge have been tried for cowardice?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223227/action/topic#223227
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
a) In the Radio Drama, Luke wows everyone on the simulator, so he gets put in charge of Biggs and Wedge. Which doesn't make too much sense; just because you're good at your job doesn't mean you're good at leading other people in their jobs. Luke's experience blowing up womp rats might make him a fine pilot, but it doesn't mean he'd be good at commanding other people and leading an attack. Although Luke does seem to know what he's doing when things get hot.


Well, a good performance would have given Luke priority in attacking the Death Star, but you're right about the command issue. Perhaps Wedge should have lead the group but with Luke in the lead. Unless, of course, all of Luke's group were brand new recruits and so you had newbies commanding newbies.
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#223226
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John Williams' Music
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223226/action/topic#223226
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
What pissed me off about the PT scores was how many tracked pieces he used. There are so many moments in the PT where they just cut and pasted previous tunes from the earlier movies into there. Of course, that started in ROTJ as well, where they use the TIE fighter chase from Star Wars during the Death Star core chase. But that was only that one time. In the prequels, especially ROTS, so much music is just reused, and it just seems so lazy.


Precisely. There are parts in AotC and RotS where the music seems to abruptly start and end. It was like they just played music that was already arranged and then cut where the scene ended. Seemed very cheap to me. But, I will agree with you that the music itself, while overused, is very well written.
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#223050
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Sets
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223050/action/topic#223050
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Originally posted by: JediFlyer06
Some fans might shoot me for saying this, but during the making of the OT, techincally speaking, Lucas was probably the one who contributed least to the final product of the trilogy as a whole.


I agree. Call me weird, but for a very long while now I've attributed more of the original Star Wars' success to McQuarrie than anybody else. How much of the story, world, and characters would have been very cliche and boring had it not been for his great paintings capturing the imagination of Lucas and others? Most of the visual magic in the series comes straight from his mind.

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#223048
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John Williams' Music
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223048/action/topic#223048
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Originally posted by: Skyranger
Is it just me, or has the quality of John Williams' music for Star Wars paralleled the quality of the films themselves?


Not for the OT since Return of the Jedi was the height of Star Wars music in my mind with Empire being slightly behind.

Otherwise, in the PT I've notcied how the music got worse with each installment. The musical scores in AotC and RotS were both repetitive and poorly arranged. TPM easilly had the best music out of the prequels, though nothing that come close to the genius in Jedi or Empire.
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#223046
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OT.com = TFN?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223046/action/topic#223046
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Originally posted by: CO
I guess I need to clarify for myself why I have been bringing up many threads pertaining to the TFn and the diehard PT fans and how it effects us. This is why we are in the position we are in now is because there is a diehard fanbase who loves the SE and Lucas is catering to it.


Hmm, that makes me somewhat depressed to think about. George does seem to be turning the Star Wars universe into something along the lines of a cheesy, comic-book universe. It basically seems to exist for the purpose of making a quick buck and then anything of artistic merit is quickly forgotten or replaced with something new to make a new quick buck. Will such a focus be able to exploit Star Wars fans indefinitely or will we eventually catch on?


Anyways, I needed no sites like this to persuade me of how the PT and the special editions sucked. I came to that conclusion completely on my own.

Well, truthfully, I really tried to enjoy the PT and I really did want to love them, and I sort of did at first, but then with repeated viewings they became worse and worse. Ultimately each time I saw the PT it only attempted to ruin my experience of the Star Wars universe in general.

And, truthfully, I did like the Special Editions at one time, and could have even forgiven Hayden as the force ghost of Anakin in RotJ if only I had been granted access to the OT as well and alongside. As it is, George seems to have decided that the best use of his power is destroying the OT and erasing it from all memory. Sadly, I then have to take sides in such a battle and now it's completely the fault of George Lucas that I hate his special editions too. I actually once thought they were good and may watch them again someday if George can give his fans what they want.

If I had to guess, even most of the “PT-gushers” would like to have access to the OT in its original form and would pay GL good money for it. Why doesn’t GL see that?
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#223044
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Ages of Luke & Leia
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223044/action/topic#223044
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
You must unprequel what you have prequelled...


lol

Hmm, the explanation as to why Lea didn't actually live with her "real" mother (as Luke said) in the PT is simple: That would have forced George Lucas to write a scene where Padme agreed to go into hiding with her daughter and also give up her baby son to strangers. Writing actual drama is apparently too haaard for Lucas and so he took the easy way.