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#236891
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How George Lucas created the O-OT fanbase...
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Originally posted by: CO
If Lucas would have just left the OT alone before releasing the PT, or made the SE just a one time thing in '97 just to give a different spin on the movies, but stop at there. If the PT existed now, and the O-OT were released as the real 04 DVD versions, and then this huge saga boxset in 2007 with the O-OT + PT, then I believe many fans, even though not huge fans of the PT, would not have a problem being a saga fan of all 6 movies.


In my case, all he had to have done was make the original movies available, and then I would have at least remained a tepid fan of his beloved "saga." Now his vision represents the very thing that is completely ruining Star Wars and I want nothing to do with it. To hell with his contradictions and his changes.

I just read an interview of his where he said the original Star Wars was only 25% of what he wanted. If that's true, why should he go back and fuck up an already good film with his additions? He should have just made all the movies brand new and not bothered to change the old. Then his Saga would truly tie together. Though he doesn't like Star Wars enough for that kind of commitment I'd guess. That would be too much work for our lethargic filmaker.

Otherwise, you make a good point about how Lucas is now stuck in a problem of his own making. If he turns off a lot of his older fans with his half-assed approach to absolutely everything, then that's the way it will be. Star Wars will become some cheap kiddy franchise that most people will grow out of by the time they're 20 and that's all it will ever be from then on. Then Star Wars will die unless preservationists who know the truth about the series have some say in the matter.
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#236529
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LOL Look at How They Try to Explain Away Continuity Problems!
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Originally posted by: ESHBG
What Vader didn't know... or perhaps feigned ignorance about before his dark Master... was the connection between Luke Skywalker and Anakin Skywalker.

Oh yeah, because Vader and Anakin were different people, and he didn't even know who his son was until one day on Cloud City, the two figures mysteriously joined their brains together and for an oh so brief second, Vader and Anakin were one again. "Son, is that you?!?" LOL GIVE ME A BREAK!!!


Hah!
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#236145
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A Question to the Older Members
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Well, I watched Star Wars on video hundreds of times. The other two I've seen many times as well. All while I was very young though, and never in a theater till the special editions.

The first bad effect I ever noticed the first time through each movie were the long-range Tauntaun images in Empire Strikes back that looked obviously fake. They moved like claymation. The second was the Rancor which was of a different brightness level compared to Luke.

Otherwise, after having seeing Star Wars many, many times, I began noticing the weird boxes around the tie fighters (mostly when the Millenium Falcon is escaping the Death Star) and I began noticing some of the bigger stop-motion hiccups (like when Luke shut off his lightsaber on the Millenium Falcon or when Alderaan exploded).
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#236089
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So Who Killed Palpatine, Anyway? (This thread is made from 100% post-poster recycled bandwidth)
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Well, in terms of physical life forms, Jawa bodies for the most part are incredibly low in their midiclorian count. The exception to that is their eyes. Jawa eyes have the highest midiclorian count known among Star Wars life forms. Tthe energy generated by the midiclorians is what acually causes their eyes to glow so brightly and it is through that power that their spirits gain the ability to come back after death and possess Sith warriors.
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#236023
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DVD WRITING CAMPAIGN - WEEK ONE - "Entertainment Weekly"
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Uhg, I didn't do well on the "brief" part, but at least my email might help influence them. It went as follows:

The original Star Wars has been so meaningful to so many people and in so many ways. For many it has been the height of dramatic entertainment for over a generation. For others it was a morality play that spoke of the struggle between good and evil. To many it was a magical fantasy world to lose their imaginations within. There are too many ways to count. The point is that many people were deeply attached to what originally came before (warts and all).

Now, Star Wars is very different. Much of the original beauty we all saw in Star Wars movies, and fanatically came to love, has now been deemed illegitimate by the very man who was the epicenter of their creation and now naturally controls the films' destinies. Much of the amazing and historic work performed by so many other people on the behalf of George Lucas' films has now been casually rejected by him as lacking all importance and value. While he has the legal right over Star Wars to make that judgment, he also claims to have the moral right, and that's just plain wrong.

Art is not something that stands apart from the time and space it occupies. The greater effect that a given piece of art might have had on the world, the more respect that particular piece of art should be given. The previous DVD release of the “original” Star Wars was not the same, classic film that we all remember. It was in fact George Lucas’ special edition from 1997 but without the “special” designation (and it contained even more revisionist changes beyond the 1997 version). The original films that affected so many people so deeply were instead maligned by their creator as something that didn’t even exist anymore (only in his mind of course).

Fans of the original Star Wars don’t want to sound like big crybabies, but the upcoming Star Wars DVD release, which merely puts a “Laserdisc master” of the “theatrical” Star Wars on a “bonus disc,” is far from acceptable treatment for such obviously important films. There are many who work in the field of film restoration (such as Robert A. Harris) who would absolutely jump at the chance to help restore the original theatrical versions to a modern, digital form and then transfer it to DVD. This act has been performed with far less important and far less marketable films and yet they somehow managed to generate profit. Yet Lucasfilm, with all of its resources and skill, cannot give this same, standard treatment to Star Wars?!

Whatever format a film is released in, it should try to mimic the original quality as best as possible. Using an older, laserdisc master is not the best representation of the original, theatrical Star Wars on DVD by any means. The sad part is that we know Lucasfilm has the means and the money to do a proper digital master for DVD. It’s not as if fans and movie enthusiasts would not reward Lucasfilm for a high quality, release. Instead, the sheer arrogance of Lucasfilm and George Lucas takes all the fun out of this for many Star Wars fanatics. I for one will not be purchasing this release of Star Wars despite my devotion to it. As much as I love to support the preservation of the original films, that same love of mine prevents me from supporting inferior, DVD treatment.

Lastly, as a Star Wars fan, I already have purchased the 2004 DVD version of the original Star Wars trilogy. It is plainly insulting that I should be expected to repurchase those same films a second time just to get a Laserdisc-quality version of the theatrical releases on DVD. This was the nail on the coffin in terms of my excitement for this upcoming release. Was that the ultimate “artistic vision” of George Lucas?

Thank you for your time,
Chad Derek Jacobson
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#235957
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So Who Killed Palpatine, Anyway? (This thread is made from 100% post-poster recycled bandwidth)
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Good Lord, apparenty none of you understand George Lucas' genius.

Anakin died when he became a Sith Lord (and the exact point where that occurred in the PT should be laughably obvious except to someone stupid). But, this was only a spiritual death on the part of our eternal hero. And so, with the body of noble Anakin remaining behind, the soul and spirit of an evil Jawa Demon came and possessed the now-vacant body of “Darth Vader.” (I should note here that all Sith Lords as a matter of fact, are possessed by evil, demonic, Jawa spirits.) Thus, the true story of the original trilogy should become very obvious to anyone following this logic. It was a quest on the part of Luke and Leia to resurrect the spirit of their dead father by guilt tripping the evil Jawa spirit into feeling empathy for Luke. Thus, as you see, it’s all incredibly simple.
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#235687
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Sexiest Anime Girls.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Wow, maybe that's an anime I should try and check out somehow. I saw some old "Lodoss" VHS tapes at a used CD store a year or two ago, but I'm not sure if that place even still exists.


I own the "collector's series" Lodoss War DVDs. They're digitally remastered and very sweet (otherwise, don't bother with the other DVD set). I aso own the VHS tape versions. I love Lodoss War. Though, those two pictures I posted aren't from any scenes in the actual show, but were pieces of artwork created for the show I believe. Still, Deedlit is hot.


Edit: Oh yes, the television series is also worth checking out. Its awesome and focuses on different story elements from the books (the two different series aren't totally harmonious in their plot lines but compliment each other as alternate versions). The drawings aren't as good as the original OVAs but the animation is usually better on average. Still, neither compare to the bigger-budgeted anime we get nowadays.
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#235310
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George Lucas and Ed Wood OR The Alignment of the Stars
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I believe Lucas is (or at least was) a good director, but he just doesn't have the ability to stick to a larger viewpoint. Beyond the time length of a movie and other simple elements, he seems to struggle for a proper perspective with things such as story. Everything with him is tunnel-vision and that's what leads to his latest movies being terrible. (I should say though, that I've never seen any of his non-Star Wars movies.)

In terms of acting, I'm guessing George is just a cold, withdrawn man who doesn't care about well-performed drama. He also needs others to help him make a story that reflects the softer or more humorous side of life. Alone, he makes something dry and dull.

How old was his kid when he made Episode One? Maybe that's why it's filled with juvenile humor. Perhaps that was what was influencing George at the time.
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#235024
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Star Wars isn't the only one...
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Originally posted by: Ingo Sucks
Id Software made DOOM, then made an Ultimate Edition with a fourth episode which they think is better and unleashing it all over the world and refuses to ever release the original version again, even though people (like me) don't like the Ultimate Edition because the fourth episode doesn't fit in with the other three, and they're making patches to downgrade the game to its original version.


You don't need to get Ultimate Doom. If anything, you could find the old program available on the net. You'd just need a DOS compatible environment to run it in.