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#955415
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The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (1966) remastered mono track (for 4K restoration + Mondo IT) (Released)
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Bewy said:

All right, I’ll buy the German disc then :3
Would you have an Amazon link to the right one? 😄

Sure:
https://www.amazon.de/Zwei-glorreiche-Halunken-Blu-ray-Cleef/dp/B00IDS9M50/ref=sr_1_1_twi_blu_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466266106&sr=8-1&keywords=Zwei+glorreiche+halunken+blu&tag=imzwielde-21

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#951106
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Info Wanted: The Force Awakens sans English Alien Subtitles?
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The German version is also with the burnt-in English alien subtitles. This kind of treatment is actually incomprehensible, as Disney actually went and provided multi-angle solutions for the film intro (“A long time ago…”/Textcrawl).

The optimal solution would have been to use a “clean” master without subtitles and use player-generated subtitles for each respective language. On BluRay, these player-generated subtitles can even replicate the look and feel of the theatrical subs quite well.

I see this development as a result of cost-cutting throughout the film industry apparent in later years. For example: in 2002-2004 the “Lord of the Rings” trilogy (New Line Cinema) was released on DVD with burnt-in subtitles for Elvish in USA, and with a clean master outside the USA (so that Elvish subtitles could be player-generated). Same is valid for the LOTR BluRay releases (which were released some years later). However, on “The Hobbit” (Warner Bros., 2013-2015), there was only one video master per DVD/BluRay release worldwide: one with burnt-in Elvish/Orkish subtitles in English. Okay, that cuts the costs for encoding by 50%. Still, it’s not nice.

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#943199
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The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (1966) remastered mono track (for 4K restoration + Mondo IT) (Released)
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Lil Brutto said:

TheHutt said:

I suppose that makes my track obsolete.

Not true. The restored audio by Chace sounds crappy.

Maybe. Still, I suppose it is better suited for the extended scenes than the downmix which I had to use before.
The theatrical scenes would still be in uncompressed LD PCM.

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#941612
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Info: The films of Sergio Leone - The best available versions...
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Little update for The Good, The Bad and the Ugly (1966):

There is a (silent) remastering of the new (4K) restoration which actually features original mono in English. I have specified details in my mono audio thread:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Good-The-Bad-And-The-Ugly-1966-remastered-mono-track-for-4K-restoration-Mondo-IT/id/16791/page/6

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#941611
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The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (1966) remastered mono track (for 4K restoration + Mondo IT) (Released)
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I have looked into the different editions of the 4K-scanned GB&U version and its Mono track issue. So here are the facts:

  • There was a first pressing of the 4K-scanned GB&U (V1) by MGM/FOX. The authoring date is April 1st, 2014. This is the version released with the US “Man with no name trilogy” box as well as the UK steelbook edition. This contains the faulty English mono (downmix from 5.1 with replaced gunshots).
    The inner ring number for the UK steelbook version of it is: L0 FW15813BDSE/1 V01 PLA; L1 FW15813BDSE/2.2 V01 GLM

  • Then there was a (silent) second pressing (V2) by MGM/FOX. This one contains the correct English mono track (not a downmix) in Dolby Digital / 192 kbps. The authoring date is May 31st, 2014. This is the version released as a single disc in the USA; also, the German amaray version I purchased in 2015 contains this version.
    The inner ring number (from the German disc) is: L0 FW 15813BDSE/1.7 V02 AYJ; L1 FW15813BDSE/2.6 V02 BOP

I suppose that makes my track obsolete. On the other hand, as my track uses downmixed audio in the extended scenes, I might update it to use the proper mono from V2 for the extended scenes, plus the LD audio for theatrical scenes. If there is need for it, of course.