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#530308
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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rpvee said:

Here's one post:

  I've watched the uneditted versions of the originals, and frankly i didn't like them at all, but maybe that's cuz my generation don't like movies that were made in the 70s. 
 

No, it's because the new generation has no taste.

Hollywood executives, producers etc are responsible for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQStHo-u6W8

 The new generation likes only shit because since its birth it eats only shit

those who are tired of it all, join me in the dark side !! The truth is here !! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvpT_7BMAc

 

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#522834
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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greenpenguino said:

At the beginning of the clip I noticed that you will be including the Padme deleted scenes. Have you thought of having a subtle version of the 'rebel motif' during those scenes. Perhaps played on a clarinet? By Rebel Motif I mean this theme...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQEwTm8iWAI

 why not, I can try this, but I have already planed to create a variation of this theme :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewMF2evjjYM&t=16s

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#521438
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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rpvee said:

HOWEVER, could we please see this "in action"??  I really wanna see how this one fits, exactly.

Also, are you not using Across the Stars?  Will Anakin and Padme have a love theme?

 yeah coming soon

Sorry but no more Accross the star...I don't really love it. There is no more romance in my AOTC cut (the love story is implied)

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#521437
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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Bingowings said:

You really have to be careful when adapting themes from one fictional universe into another.

James Horner's Aliens soundtrack was really cheapened because he obviously recycled his Klingons theme from Star Trek III and even lifted from queues from the Star Wars soundtrack.

Even to this day I keep thinking the Bird Of Prey is going to lift Ripley off that landing platform.

Your adaptation of music from Superman in my view is too recognisable to be used in a Star Wars film.

Taking the odd sweeps and crash etc are fine but bending whole themes cheapens some of the really good work you have done.

It's your edit naturally but if I'm constantly hearing Smallville, for me it's hard to concentrate on a galaxy far, far away.

 Very wise words, but it's not like I have copy/paste 1 hour of Superman soundtrack.

I have made one mistake : copy/paste "Leaving home" orchestration and progression :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrnmMVi46E8

 

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#521217
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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rpvee said:

All I'm saying is you have the software to create music, you have the mind to create themes.

 of course I can do exactly what I want. I used "Leaving home" as main inspiration, because I love it, I love the mood...not because I can't create something new.

I am not sure you have a good idea of the work involved to create a realistic music with computer...it's not so easy, it need much time.

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#521187
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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fishmanlee said:


(And I always thought the friendship motif would be more, comical in a way in certain scenes (not too comical of course) like the scherzo from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_2LeU8Wz2I

 it would have been a great thing if Obi-wan and Anakin's relationship had been close in some way to the Jones relationship...I love that movie, I love the humor...I love the way the relationship is done : humor + deep feeling. It has nothing to do with the PT stupid jokes...

 

But for that you need great actors, great script and great dialogues....

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#521173
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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Mithrandir said:

Please use (or work on it) the music you can hear at 6:08 of this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGMKCrUFuMU . It's a tense section, that I think wasn't used in the movie. 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fnK-O48z6Y&t=2m43s

^_^

"Haha. Kinda sounds like Hans Zimmer's Batman theme with a little SW mixed in."

it's true

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#521170
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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mrbenja0618 said:

 It feels like we should have heard it before if that makes sense.

 

yes of course, things aren't done in the good order here, the "goodbye old friend" sequence will be the last moment where you will hear the frienship theme.

you will hear it three times before, in the movie :

-an epic version in the begining of the space battle

-a stressfull version when Obi-wan is in trouble and when Anakin rescued him (buzz droids)

-a friendly version after the space battle, just after the landing sequence.

and I will work on it in my Attack of the Cut

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#521162
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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I understand now... by "too romantic", you mean : "too lyric".

 

as I already said, it's not a bad idea, and I think I could do something, but I don't think I will keep Battle fo the heroes in my cut.

 

look (and listen), I found this two days ago  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soGaLASQtHU&t=1m53s

 

it's more intense without music, ESB duel feeling

(but in my edit, there will be music in the begining of the duel)

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#521145
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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rpvee said:

I did not have a problem with the birthing sequence.  

 "Heyyy cutter. My previous critiques on your ROTS edit aside, this is well done! I don't think it fits the tone of the scene, but focusing on the piece itself, I think it's brilliant"

 

this is your words, right ?

I agree with you here, it doesn't fit perfectly the tone of the scene. I have to work on it again.

It's strange that you think I am stuck on my vision.

I take the time to read, respond, sometimes I agree with critics and  I made some corrections, sometime I suggest different visions.

Not long ago, I wrote this :

"the new soundtrack I am working on is still work in progress, things may change, I need time to think and make the necessary improvements. This is not an easy challenge to try to "get into" Williams head and created a music that is not offensive to him."


I mean here that things need to mature... I do not think this is the behavior of someone frozen.

Having a personnal vision of things does not mean be stuck.

Concerning the frienship theme, for me it need to be romantic. It doesn't need to be epic, because we are talking here about feeling, about heart, about love and respect between two brothers and between a master and an apprentice.

There is other places in the movie for epic stuff.

Revenge of the sith lacks so much of emotions, frienship emotions...we have stupid jokes, stupid disagreements, but never a true feeling of frienship...frienship is about love, and I don't know another way to illustrate love than with a romantic music.

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#521128
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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Yes I understand perfectly why you don't like it, and I never said  it was not obvious that this music is really close to Superman soundtrack (youtube description : "Mainly and heavily inspired by Superman soundtrack).

but Star wars is full of romantic themes : Leia, Luke, Luke and Leia, Han solo and the Princess, Yoda, Brother and sister, Anakin, Accros the Stars, Anakin's betrayal

I can't imagine another way (a romantic theme) to illustrate a friendship.

You can't agree with all of my choices, no one can I think.

I agree with you concerning my birth sequence, it's a liitle too much, and I will work on it again.
But concerning this one, I don't care if a music is close to another (and in this case, it's from the same composer) now, when I watch this sequence, I feel something.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I&t=1m20s

" Hey John !!, you are not serious !! you will not put Holts music in star wars, it's too obvious !!"

^_^

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#521019
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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rpvee said:

It's not as Star Wars as a piece from Superman?

 No, because Superman soundtrack is much closer to OT style than all PT soundtracks combined. And it's not a matter of taste, or point of view, it's a technical fact : PT has a different writing style than all 70s/80s Willams work which is much more inspired by this kind of music :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaNuYvj-jcc

the 70s/80s are a kind of "blessed time" : best soundtracks ever, best movies ever...great inspiration

I'm sure that if Williams had to compose a friendship theme in the 80s, it would have been close to "Leaving home" or close to this one :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTUgPLoOOak

When a composer create music for different movies in the same period, we can feel it, we can feel the same kind of inspiration, writing style -and this is the case with Star wars and Superman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9INHPNnEEWo

Even if it contain masterpieces, 80 % of the PT soundtrack has nothing to do with Star Wars, and we can't blame Williams : he created music for movies that have nothing to do with Star Wars.

I have chosen "Leaving home" as main inspiration because, for me, it's the perfect tone to illustrate the friendship...each time I listen to this track, I am thinking about Obi-wan and Anakin's friendship...so I decided to create something close, and as I already said, it's not the same theme : because the orchestration and progression are the same (and I have explained why), it give the feeling of a copy/paste...In AOTC and ROTS, this theme will be orchestrated in many different ways.

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#520801
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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *)
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fishmanlee said:


I apologize if I got too heated.

BTW, you think you could come up with a good/better Droid/Villian theme?

I think something similar (not exactly the same notes, but the same mood) to this would be interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58wJRrvVgZI
or: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCQKLKElPBY

 no problem !

Yes, I have planed to create a new Grevious theme, a darker one