The Bizzle

Bizzle, you got a hell of a problem, don't you?

Bizzle, you may try and make me sound like a bad loser, which I am not.

Apparently, yes, you are.



Because it's accurate? I don't get what's so insulting about it. Again, if it's hitting THAT close to home, you might want to re-examine why you do what you do and what's more important to you when you do it. Because I came to that conclusion just by seeing your work and watching where you put the effort in. I don't actually know you. So for that stuff to come through in your edit, there's gotta be SOMETHING to it. It's not a flame-war--this is criticism. It's not pat you on the head with rainbow drops and cotton candy criticism: It's un-subtle, it's frank, and it's honest. It's not a slam against you as a person (again, I don't know you) and if you choose to take it that personally, that's on you. Again, I invite you to re-think why you do what you do in that case.

This is not necessary and it does not belong into a contest. Enough said.

Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Episode I

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 80

Additional Comments: Ambition outstrips editing capabilities here, and some of those ideas
ultimately prove unnecessary for doing what it is he's trying to do. They mostly call attention
to themselves instead of propelling the story along. I can HEAR the editor going "This is
how it SHOULD have been done" instead of just doing it. Plus, in this film, ADM's "Straight Cut"
style tends to hinder him more than it helps. But he gets much better at it as he goes on.


Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Episode II

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 82

Additional Comments: The best of his prequel edits. The ideas aren't anywhere near as intrusive,
and the execution seriously DOES make the movie flow better in the middle. I liked it about as
much as the IMAX edit, which I also felt improved the film. This is better, to me, than MagFan's
"Clone Wars" edit, which suffers from a LOT of the problems both the Episode I edit and CBB's
Matrix Edit suffers.


Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Episode III

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 74

Additional Comments: Good ideas muffed by sort of forcing them into the film instead of just
discarding them if they couldn't fit naturally. And some of the reinsertions didn't really
fit naturally. Good transitions, however, he mostly nailed those. But the film does NOT work
better, for me, with this stuff put back in--especially the reinsertion of the "Birth of The
Rebellion" scenes. And this is the movie that makes his choice to delete all references to
Padme being a Senator feel like a REALLY BAD choice. Some sketchy audio edits here.


Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Episode IV

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 86

Additional Comments: Maybe not as good as the Darth Editous edit, but almost there. A lot of
similarities there, both in ideas and execution, and that's not a bad thing.


Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Episode V

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 88

Additional Comments: Damn near perfect on the edit side. Probably ADM's best edit, in my
mind, although the quality of the original film might have something to do with it, too. Good
concepts, good execution, a lot of nice trims that tidy the film up lovely.


Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Episode VI

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 74

Additional Comments: Again, the ambition outstrips the editing capabilities. Good ideas,
iffy implementation in some instances. The movie wasn't paced the greatest in the first
place, but some things that were meant to make it move smoother just stutter it up even
more.


Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Hannibal

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 88

Additional Comments: Really damned good edit, pretty seamlessly re-integrating the footage
and making it look like it was always supposed to be there. Maybe not the most innovative
but the seamlessness makes up for that. And the Menu is great. probably the best menu in the
contest.


Name of Film and Editor: ADM's Pearl Harbor

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 78

Additional Comments: Editing is pretty seamless, probably the best editing actually seen in the
contest, the problem is this: The movie becomes even MORE of a headache this way. Sure, the
plot sucked, and the acting in that secondary plot sucked, but those scenes provided a necessary
buffer between Bay's overdriven action style. With those gone, not only does the movie make
less sense, but it destroys some of the tenuous connections that provided even ANY reason to
remotely care about the characters. It ends up being nothing but an action reel spiked with
nonsensical scenes. It's at best a large step sideways. It's shorter, at least, but it FEELS
just as long. Can't polish a turd--but it's a lot of pretty polish here anyway.


Name of Film and Editor: CBB's Matrix DeZionized

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 65

Additional Comments: This was HIGHLY disappointing. From forcing their title into the opening
titles and the name of their group into the credits as well with annoying, poorly done graphics
sequences, I knew this was going to be a rough ride with an edit more concerned with calling
attention to itself than actually trying to reshape the movie. Much like ADM's Pearl Harbor,
it's an idea that SOUNDS good but in execution, you realize how problematic it is to get rid
of THAT MUCH connective tissue. It ends up being a succession of repetitive action sequences,
which really should have fallen under the knife as well. And the worst crime--not axing ANY
of Trinity's death scene. How you re-edit this movie and leave that 5 minutes intact is beyond
me. The pic and sound quality was subpar, as well. Overcompressed and blocky more than a few
times. Most of the editing choices here are poor ones. Even taking into account this was one
of their early attempts, It's still not very good. More focused on flash. Which explains why
the extras are as plentiful as they are (although the trailers aren't good, either)


Name of Film and Editor: CBB's Boogeyman

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 75

Additional Comments: Again with the over-compressed and un-anamorphic video and subpar sound. Of
course, the turd they're trying to polish wasn't the best DVD in the first place, but again
for having problems with bad effects, they have no problem adding their own subpar effects
trumpeting their name as opposed to just trying to make the movie better. The whole thing
as with "DeZionizeD" ends up being more an exercise in fanboy pandering and self-promotion
and less an actual effort at making the movie better through creative editing. This one
DOES feature the best editing of the three CBB entries in this contest, but in the face
of ADM's entries, this stuff is pretty amateurish. It feels like it's made by people more
interested in seeing their names in the credits of ANYTHING than by people who enjoy film
and filmmaking.


Name of Film and Editor: CBB's High Tension

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 56

Additional Comments: Better video, better audio, looks like better compression, and they tricked
it out something nicely with all the audio options, the trailers, trailershow, deleted scenes,
and a pretty damn cool menu set-up. Unfortunately, this barely counts as a fan edit, since the
whole idea is just to lop off the stupid plot twist at the end. So they do. Not much skill or
innovation in that. Plus I found the re-done opening credits (as in the last two) to be pretty
damned tacky. If the point is to make the movie better don't spend so much time trying to
hype your own name and spend that time, instead, thinking of and implementing better edit choices.


Name of Film and Editor: Greencapt's Batman: De-Assified

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 72

Additional Comments: Sorta like the DeZionized project--a fun idea, and I gotta give him credit
for even TRYING to fix the unfixable. But, yeah..it's unfixable. Good effort, but the movie
STILL doesn't work, and the edits at times REALLY call attention to themselves instead of being
as seamless as they could be. Not to knock Capt's editing skill--there are some sequences in here
that blend VERY smoothly, and he juggles audio AND video cutting simultaneously rather well,
but in the end--it's still a jumbled mess of crap. It's just a shorter one.


Name of Film and Editor: Rev Beastly's Willard: Ratman Cut

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score:80

Additional Comments: Nice, workmanlike, straightforward edit. Closer to ADM than to the CBB
group, which is more to my liking. The edits are seamless, but since all he's doing is trying
to get the thing back to the workprint, it's not especially innovative. But even if it's a quick
down and dirty edit, it does what it's supposed to do and does it efficiently. No glaring
problems, nice picture and nice sound, and reinsertion of scenes that DO make the movie a
little bit better. Not MUCH (it wasn't THAT good) but it does improve it, and not too many
edits in this contest can actually SAY that.


Name of Film and Editor: Movie Rebel's T2: Cyberdyne Cut

Divide by 5 to get the Final Score: 71

Additional Comments: Seems like a lot of work for a movie that's not all that much
different from the 2 different extended cuts already on the disc. On top of that--it's
not anamorphic, and the picture is pretty compressed. Probably to take advantage of the
deleted scenes they were going to cut back in, along with the footage from the teaser trailer
That said, the edits are decent enough, they don't call THAT much attention to themselves
(There's a couple, though) and the audio is well done.


So there you go. Fun was had by all. I don't know if any other judges will post their cards, but that's how I had it. CBB was utterly disappointing. Yeah, they put a lot of work in, but quality has to count for something. I can spend 5 months crapping on a canvas, that's hard work too--doesn't mean that the work was worth anything other than a crap

This is by far the most popular edit besides the Phantom Edit.

But maybe this has to do again with culture or the country you live in.

i might be slapped silly by the bizzle on this

This is just a shame. I guess now all the nice guys here will attack me for being so rude, but go ahead, I am convinced you are not half that nice if we knew you in person anyway.

Are you kidding me? The balls on this guy.

Not for nothing, but your groups edits were the most amateurishly done in the entire contest. By a longshot. At least on my card. We'll see if the rest of the judges thought differently but you might be better off if the cards NEVER came in. Sitting around here eagerly waiting to win and trashing Kary because he can't giftwrap you those results any faster? It's amazing how that sort of reaction was almost unsurprising--it's true the personality of the artist does come through in the art, because that same kind of narcissism is slathered all over your edits.

calm, and quiet, down.

If I have a damaged toaster

Two more delicate adjustment had to be done "by eye", the first one being color. "We laid out several different color samples, and compared them to the old roll-ups," explains Knoll. "It was only a matter of choosing the one shade that was exactly like what they had used in the classic Trilogy."

You may try watching it on your PC, if your DVD player cannot handle PAL properly.

why the hell cant we bash lucas if we want what is this nazi, germany?!

No one said you couldn't. I wouldn't want people NOT to. I just want them to polish up their arguments a little, to the point where it's not just fevered "Bashing." but something with substance in it. But yes, this is just like nazi germany. We hate jewish people and are completely for burning them and gassing them and turning them into lamps. We also don't like blacks and catholics and gays and eventually the people of this board will band together and start taking over countries brutally and manaically with the idea of creating a pure genetically caucasoid race.

That's exactly what this board is. You give it so much credit.

Please don't use nazi comparisons again. They're counterproductive.

And speaking of the supposed 8 year old on Amazon.com--why is it sad? He's EIGHT. But then again, if you really believe an 8 year old is posting movie reviews on Amazon.com in his spare time, I have a lot of very important things to sell you that you can't live without at a very low cost to you, the consumer

If the O-OT were released tomorrow on DVD, what there be anymore threads about Hayden in ROTJ? Nobody would care anymore because if we don't like it, we can watch the originals.