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#143804
Topic
Superman II and Superman III extended (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/143804/action/topic#143804
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Well, I think the S shield is a little small, as are his trunks (Superman fans at other boards are calling them "manties" actually) but the colors I don't mind so much. Singer has said a lot of his visual look for this flick is inspired by the Fleischer cartoons from the 40's--and Superman wears a more burgundy/crimson blend than the crayola bright red and blue from the Donner flicks. The darker blue and the darker red don't bug me so much, but yeah--it does look like the Drunk Superman colors from Superman III. that said, after 10 minutes, I'm pretty sure there won't be any problem adjusting to it.

The guy has a very good Superman look, I think. And his voice is pretty deep as well. Whether or not he can ACT is wholly different, but then again, Christopher Reeve, at the time of filming Superman, was mostly known for soap opera work, so to the public, he was a pretty big question mark as well.

There's plenty of shit, though, that could go WAY wrong. The story, from what we know of it, is pretty iffy already. Especially since a KID is involved. If that kid ends up being SUPERMANS from when he was powerless during Superman II? I don't think that will fly very well.
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#143279
Topic
Star Wars Radio Drama - Special Edition
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/143279/action/topic#143279
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Re-upped the Torrent, with some fixes. Jack, since you're already on Demonoid, here's the link:

http://www.demonoid.com/torrents/details/206236/

Anyone know how to get the notice of the people running myspleen? This thread has some 200 odd views, and yet those people can't grab it.

Kaal: here's the direct links to the hi-res files on imageshack:

Front Cover - http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6439/starwarsradiodramafrontcover3o.jpg

Rear Tray - http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7061/starwarsradiodramareartray9mg.jpg
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#142635
Topic
Star Wars Radio Drama - Special Edition
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142635/action/topic#142635
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So I've got this uploading to Demonoids torrents right now, but can't get upload permission over at myspleen. I know Zion has a set of these, he can vouch for the quality, wondering if anyone else would like to get em. I don't know how you talk the myspleen people into giving you uploads permission, but if someone HERE has uploads permission (and I know someone here does) maybe they'd be willing to throw it up there as well?

Here's the nfo file from the demonoid torrent:

Star Wars Radio Dramas: Special Edition.

No, I didn't edit in Greedo shooting first or Vader saying "Alert my Star Destroyer,"
or any of the more typical fanboy complaints. When I first got my hands on the Radio
Dramas in 1998, I loved em, but being an impatient kid, it bugged me when the narrator told me
stuff I already knew, and him piping up every 30 minutes to tell me what I'd just heard
and what I was about to hear just sort of got in the way of the universe that was unfolding
in my head.

So, in 2000, with a copy of the soundtracks, some isolated sound effects, and a copy of Cool
Edit Pro, I edited together a more cinematic version of the Radio Dramas. There is
no narration anymore. The individual 30 minute episodes have been trimmed up and rejoined
as 70-80 minute "parts." The opening credits kick off part 1, and the closing credits are
the last thing you hear on the final part. Thus making "A New Hope" go from 13 half hour
episodes to 4 seventy-minute parts. "Empire" goes from 10 half hours to 3 parts, and Jedi
goes from 6 half hours to 2 parts. I hope you find this new listening experience a little
more immersing and enjoyable.

Thanks to National Public Radio, George Lucas for selling KUSC-FM the rights to the
station for all of one dollar, Brian Daley and John Madden (not that one) for writing
and directing, Ben Burtt, John Williams, and the voice talent:

Mark Hamill - Luke Skywalker (ANH and ESB)
Joshua Fardon - Luke Skywalker (ROTJ)
Ann Sachs - Princess Leia
Perry King - Han Solo
Brock Peters - Darth Vader
Bernard Behrens - Obi Wan Kenobi
John Lithgow - Yoda
Anthony Daniels - C-3P0
David Birney - Anakin Skywalker
Keene Curtis - Grand Moff Tarkin
Billy Dee Williams - Lando Calrissian (ESB)
Arye Gross - Lando Calrissian (ROTJ)
Paul Hecht - The Emperor
John Considine - Lord Tion
Stephen Elliott - Bail Organa
David Ackroyd - Captain Antilles
Merwin Goldsmith - General Riekaan
Alan Rosenburg - Boba Fett (ESB)
Ed Begley Jr. - Boba Fett (ROTJ)
Ed Asner - Jabba The Hutt
Adam Arkin - Fixer
Kale Browne - Biggs
David Clennon - Motti
Anne Gerety - Aunt Beru
Thomas Hill - Uncle Owen
David Paymer - Deak
Stephanie Steele - Cammie
Meschach Taylor - Wedge (ANH)
Don Scarino - Wedge (ESB)
Jon Matthews - Wedge (ROTJ)
Peter Michael Goetz - Admiral Ozzel (ESB)
Gordon Gould - General Veers
David Rasche - Admiral Piett
Peter Dennis - Moff Jerjerrod
Samantha Bennett - Arica/Mara Jade
David Dukes - Bib Fortuna
Peter Michael Goetz - General Madine (ROTJ)
Natalija Nogulich - Mon Mothma
Mark Adair Rios - Admiral Ackbar
Peter Friedman - Dak
Ron Frazier - Deck Officer
Tom Virtue - Major Derlin
James Eckhouse - Beta
Joel Brooks - Heater
Yeardley Smith - EV 9D9
Russell Horton - Too-Onebee

Also starring David Alan Grier, Nia vardalos, John Kapelos,Sam McMurray, James Blendick,
Clyde Burton, Bruce French, Jerry Hardin, Marc Vahanian, John Welsh, Kent Williams,
Stephanie D. Newman, John Pielmeier, Geoffrey Pierson, Gary Tacon, Jerry Zacks, Ron West,
Karl Johnson, Paul Mercier, Steven Petrarca, Ron LePaz, Sherman Howard, Jonathen Penner,
and Gil Segel.

Special Thanks to Ken Hiller, who although he bugged me and I chopped him out of this
"Special Edition," did a great job as the narrator.

Enjoy and seed.


Anyone interested at all? It's all in mp3 form and fits comfortably on one cd-r, complete with bonus features like the making of, radio ads, and some deleted scenes.
Post
#142337
Topic
Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142337/action/topic#142337
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What was accomplished in the OT with sets, matte paintings, costumes, and models is timeless, and is one of the many reasons why those movies are beloved,


I want to add this--it wasn't so much that the stuff was all models and mattes, it was that THE WAY they filmed it was so new. Motion control cameras and optical printing techniques. The NEWNESS of it is what really carried it over the top. The newness and the ambition of it. The next closest comparison would be Jurassic Park, and then probably Toy Story.

Thing is you go back to those movies now, with the newness wore off, and you can see the seams. Not just some of the time--ALL of the time.

BAD EFFECTS rip you out of the movie, period. DATED EFFECTS as well. There's plenty of effects that are pulled off well, they're just old as crap. Hell, King Kong's stop motion was pulled off astoundingly in 33, so much so that people glossed over the mostly horrid acting and pacing (honestly) but you look at it now, and you REALLY have to distance yourself from the movie to appreciate it less as a flick and more as a historical document. That's not to say I want King Kong remade with a bunch of CG effects and Animatronic models (although that's what we're getting) but dated effects DO get in the way.

The original trilogy has a LOT of dated effects. And they're just as jarring for people watching it the first time as people watching King Kong for the first time. They dont' jar to us because we spend unholy amounts of time watching them over and over and over.

The anti-CG bias has always been interesting, because half the time, people don't really know what's CG and what isn't. Not just in the Star Wars movies, but in a lot of effects heavy shows. It depends on whether you carry this bias into the theater and have trained yourself to look for it. I can spot it, but I try to recognize that these are the tools the director has chosen to use, and then go from there. That doesn't mean CG gets a pass, just like crappy matte-work and modeling and cheese costumes didn't get a pass in the mid-80's. Just because it's tangible doesn't mean it's automatically better. And to say that the Original Trilogy is loved because they used models is fallacious. The Original Trilogy is loved because it was a right time/right place kind of movie that was so NEW at the time that it really impacted people. The marketing genius is what kept these movies fresh, the repackaging and ancillary markets and merchandising and reselling and reselling, so that effectively, you never LEFT the time period the movies originally came out. The marketing always trapped you there.
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#142123
Topic
Idea: Revenge of the Sith: Extended Edition
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142123/action/topic#142123
Time
Give me an example of what happens over there if I post the way I do here.

okay, let's just use one of your quotes here...Here begins the example:

How do you know this? They must have quite the reputation then! I'm going to head over there and get an account just to see what they will do.

You're fucking stupid, douchenozzle. I have an idea. Why don't you go fuck yourself, and once you're done doing that, slit your wrists, drink drano, and stick your fucking head in an oven. And then, just as you've finished preheating the oven, shoot yourself. In front of a necrophiliac. How bout that.


hahahahahhaha banned.


And then you'd be banned.

That's pretty much how it'd go down.

To get back to the topic, I'm sure if some of these scenes aren't reinserted into the flick, the edit that DOES reinsert them will come from here, and I hope it's something more simple than not. There's not going to be any real way to reinsert the Shaak Ti scene, so that's always just going to be a curiosity. The Rebellion scenes can be put back in, as well as the Yoda scene, but some of these scenes were deleted too early to be reinserted, I think.

I have faith in you editmonkeys that you'll cook something up.
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#141944
Topic
Idea: Revenge of the Sith: Extended Edition
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141944/action/topic#141944
Time
Jack's making a lot of suppositions about the quality of the supplemental disc. Van Ling's never really done stuff on the 2nd disc save for the menus and the menu structure. His absence doesn't really say anything, especially since he's still doing the menus and the menu structure. And I wouldn't trust First as a great reviewer, either. Just because he got it early doesn't mean he's Roger Ebert.
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#141494
Topic
Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141494/action/topic#141494
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I could go to the actual DVD and make some screen grabs if you're gonna be pedantic.


Whoa, slow your roll. I'm trying to help YOU out. If you're going to be all carnival sideshow barker talking up your product, don't come with shit jpeg screenshots. That's all. Everyone here torrents everything, I'm sure they'd be okay downloading a 100kb jpeg that's actually representative of the quality product you put out. You owe yourself better. It's hard to get a handle on your restoration work when the whole picture looks like a fuzzy blocky mess.

Pedantic. Jesus. Pedantic would be going through and using a mediocre laserdisc transfer like Cowclops v.2 and re-editing a Star Wars movie painstakingly frame by frame in order to not only reverse the changes brought by the 2004 DVD's, but to restore all the mistakes, flubs, bloopers and goofs as they were originally seen.

Oh, and the deal with Han's hands was that both Kershner AND Lucas thought that the framing was odd in that sequence. In order to better give the scene the sort of cold, claustrophobic feel Kersh was going for, they tightened up the frame and timed the sequence inside a little bluer.
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#141361
Topic
Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141361/action/topic#141361
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True, but I'm saying even for DVD shrink level compression--those are bad screenshots. I know his DVD's are better quality, I enjoyed his Deleted Magic--but the discrepancy between what he's saying it looks like and what he's SHOWING us it looks like is HUGE.

basically, I'm saying whatever he's using to take screenshots isn't helping him.

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#141349
Topic
Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141349/action/topic#141349
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Not to be a dick--but what are you using for screencaps? Because those are pretty bad caps. I mean, even for laserdisc screencaps, they're bad. Lot of color anomalies, blocky artifacts, and oversaturation. I'm pretty sure that's NOT what the movie looks like on your set, but the caps aren't helping you "sell" your set here. They're certainly not matching up with your descriptions of the picture quality.

Also, I don't understand WHY you put the "Vest" back in since he's not wearing a vest in the first place. Or his jacket. But I understand you're trying to restore the film to it's 1980 version.
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#141286
Topic
Superman II and Superman III extended (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141286/action/topic#141286
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sort of off-topic, but it looks like Warners has talked Ilya Salkind into letting them use the missing donner footage. Talks are now underway to put together a Superman II Special Edition, with a possible Donner re-edit. This thing is closer to reality than it's ever been. They greenlight it fast enough, It might be ready in time for the Superman Returns DVD release winter of 06.
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#140357
Topic
Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140357/action/topic#140357
Time
Complaining about changing the shit puppet to a more accurate CGI rendering is hardly something to "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO" about, since everyone and their mom has been bitching about the puppet since the first trailer hit.

And to quell any worries, Coleman and Lucas have stated numerous times beforehand they are NOT touching the Yoda in Episodes 5 and 6. Will not happen. Nope. Nada. Even if you want it to happen just so you can shoot a couple more arrows ILM's way, it's not gonna happen
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#140151
Topic
THE FAN EDIT CONTEST HAS A WINNER !!! REVIEWS IN OFF TOPIC FORUM
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140151/action/topic#140151
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I will be switching between a Toshiba 32 inch CRT TV, a 15 inch HP Pavilion, and an InFocus x1 Projector on a 7foot wide screen so I can really suss out the PQ on these things. I don't think it'd matter if the bonus features came on their own separate bonus disc, at least I wouldn't mark it down any. The 2nd disc would probably need to have their own menu structure and such that match up with the main feature, however.