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#keephopealive

Did you drink the water?

GZK8000 said:

First of all, expecting that people can correctly transmit what they’re trying to say without needing to repeat or clarify a few points is already ableist, not everyone can do it in one try, and not every mind works the same way.

And second, I prefer to be the kind of person that considers something ableist even if it isn’t, since the world in which we live is already ableist AF (so, at best, it may happen that we err on our analysis but our intentions are in the good place and we probably won’t hurt anyone), rather than the kind of person who makes jokes about some discussions about ableism in Star Wars (“lulz K2 is disabled”, which was a metaphor, not an actual description of the character) and then uses his disabled daughter to appoint himself as an authority on ableism.

This is ridiculous. How can I be the authority on ableism when I don’t use the word twelve times per post?

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

I know you said you’re no longer hard left, but you sure sound hard right when you go on about the mainstream media like this.

Why should it be seen as hard right to go after the media for misrepresentation?

I’m very familiar with the accusation that standing up for a conservative viewpoint (even just to object to its mischaracterization) renders one hard right. It just doesn’t make any sense.

“The mainstream media” as a pejorative is the domain of the right. How far right that is today versus the Palin days is a bit different I suppose.

GZK8000 said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

K2 is stupid?

No, he’s disabled.

At the end.

Lol, you write these comments, and then you have the guts to use your daughter as an appeal to authority.

moviefreakedmind said:

Seriously man, what the fuck?

I’m just wondering if someone hacked your account, that’s all. I wouldn’t call it getting riled up.

You found them out I guess.

I know you said you’re no longer hard left, but you sure sound hard right when you go on about the mainstream media like this.

DominicCobb said:

K2 is stupid?

No, he’s disabled.

At the end.

Jay said:

some folks who binge-watched The Handmaid’s Tale and were looking for stuff to be angry about

Sheesh.

GZK8000 said:

TV’s Frink said:

I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard this complaint about Homer Simpson. Not once. And supposedly I’m the biggest SJW on the site.

I did not want to speak about my complains about K-2SO since I know I will be accussed of being a SJW.

I don’t think the term SJW should be a pejorative. I believe it’s not asking for much to ask that we show respect to other people who’ve committed no crime other than being different than us, purposefully or not. I have a high-functioning daughter for God’s sake.

And I am completely baffled by this complaint.

moviefreakedmind said:

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

GZK8000 said:

Since K-2SO is a robot, in this case, it seems the robot lacks the appropiate programming. But my point is, had K-2SO been a human character, the comedy would have been essentially the same. Who doesn’t laugh at Homer Simpson’s stupidity? Therefore, I found K-2SO related comedy ableist, and I hated that.

I don’t really understand the conflation of stupidity and ableism here either. K2SO doing stupid things doesn’t make him disabled.

He can’t be disabled since he’s a robot, but my point is that the same comedy that makes K-2SO “funny” is the same comedy that makes disabled characters “funny”. It’s not a problem that is limited to Rogue One.

I never laugh at Homer Simpson’s stupidity, that’s my point.

But stupid characters aren’t disabled either. That conflation is far more offensive than whatever happened in Rogue One.

I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard this complaint about Homer Simpson. Not once. And supposedly I’m the biggest SJW on the site.

moviefreakedmind said:

I certainly didn’t interpret any homosexual elements to Rogue One

Like I said earlier, it was left open to interpretation, and it’s reasonable to interpret it either way.

ChainsawAsh said:

now I have a double imp.

I thought the football-player-in-Flash-Gordon was supposedly the stupidest conversation here right now, but Disney treating K2SO like a disabled person beats it hands down.

GZK8000 said:

Sorry but you completely misunderstood my previous comments. What I criticise is that they did not make their homosexual relation more explicit, and that they went to the tired idea of making them a tragic couple where one of them dies and the other is unable to cope with the loss of his lover. I did not criticise that they’re gay. Nor I have a problem with Lando being pansexual.

I will back off my criticism of this part of your comments. You should have said this the first time.

GZK8000 said:

But unless he or others have some serious problems with my attitude (or unless I do some really shitty action), I don’t see any reasons for Frink to write that comment. That is all.

I find your comments about Baze and Chirrut’s relationship, and your comparison of K2SO to a disabled person, to be in poor taste. At best.

Sorry you don’t like getting called out on it.

GZK8000 said:

I did not like K-2SO, since I saw him as the robotic equivalent of a disabled person

WTF

darthrush said:

I can’t believe someone thinks that Baze is a good character. Chirrut though? I can get behind that. He is a cool side character that is given enough depth.

But Baze? Seriously? All I know about him is he is the cool guy with the big gun…literally that is all we are given.

Baze on his own, maybe, but he’s not on his own. He’s got a relationship with Chirrut which is also cool. It may be open to interpretation, but you can’t pretend it doesn’t exist, however you choose to interpret it.

TV’s Frink said:

The Arrogant Hare

The Arrogant Hair

Something about Gaylando?

But you just took it. 😦

I hadn’t even heard of this until he complained about it.

dahmage said:

and i don’t think i will respect the rest of your post. Chirrut and Baze were wonderful characters.

Don’t be The Arrogant.

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

AllAboutThatSpace said:

In general I think my enjoyment of a Star Wars movie is in inverse proportion to the number of planets in it.

I don’t care how you rank any of these films, I really enjoy this method of ranking them.

Same. If we can come up with an equation that somehow also works in the number of lightsabers, we might be on to something.

But we also need to work in the colors of the planets and the lightsabers.

Obviously the more colors of lightsabers, the more the movie sucks.