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#1228597
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jay said:

It’s deliberate and it’s annoying. Just shitposting, really.

So is this a warning for dahmage?

Did I say it was a warning?

And it wasn’t directed solely at dahmage.

No, which is why I asked. A lot of confusion on the subject lately.

Regardless, it shouldn’t have been directed at him all. You’ll need to point to another shitpost by him unless there’s a first time for everything. I don’t see how it was a shitpost.

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#1228591
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Jay said:

It’s deliberate and it’s annoying. Just shitposting, really.

So is this a warning for dahmage? People get bans for shitposting. Is this Jay the Admin or Jay the Poster?

Frankly I don’t remember a single dahmage shitpost in the entire time he’s been here. When he says he doesn’t understand something, he doesn’t.

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#1228590
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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yotsuya said:

DrDre said:

yotsuya said:

DrDre said:

yotsuya said:

Shopping Maul said:

I liked Luke’s vibe in TLJ in theory, but the execution bugged me somewhat. Luke in exile was great. Luke reconsidering past events and pondering (as I have as a fan) the idea of Jedi hubris was great. Luke suggesting that the old Jedi orthodoxy had to die was great. All the stuff about the Force and ‘balance’ and how no-one has a particular claim to it was absolutely great.

What I didn’t like so much was the idea of Luke being on the back foot with all this. Having Yoda come back to give Luke a lecture on ‘failure’ annoyed me. Luke transcended his masters in RoTJ. Yoda and Obi Wan wanted Luke to simply kill the bad guys. Luke chose a more personal, Zen route. I’d prefer he’d been doing the grumpy hobo routine in TLJ as an act - similar to Yoda’s initial test in TESB. This could have been his way of forcing Rey to take her destiny into her own hands, a new and different path away from the usual formalised Jedi training routine. Once Rey had flown off to confront Kylo, Luke could have revealed his cunning duplicity to Yoda and they could’ve burned down the Jedi tree together. Then, after Luke’s great skype-battle with Kylo, Rey could’ve realised what he’d done and be like “you sly devil”.

This way he could’ve played the hobo but still been the Luke we all love and respect without being diminished.

If you didn’t notice, the scene with Yoda doesn’t alter the more Zen route he took in ROTJ. Yoda isn’t advising him on the force, he is advising him how to teach. Advising him as a fellow master. I think because Luke was so pivotal, Rian didn’t just have him fill the master/mentor role immediately. He brought back some of that negativity that characterized Luke in ANH and TESB. It created a nice character journey for Luke to take him where he needed to be to help Rey.

The problem of course is, that he didn’t really help Rey, and that she still succeeded despite this. She helped herself to some books, when she was fed up with him, after which Luke sort of rediscovered himself, and was able to create a diversion for the rebels. Ultimately though he wasn’t much of a mentor in this film, except to be an example of how not to be. Yoda told Luke how to be a better teacher, he got to stage an illusion, and then he died before he could pass on what he had learned.

This is Star Wars. Since when is dying a barrier to being a teacher and mentor?

Ehm, since ANH. Force Ghosts can provide guidance, but up until TLJ they couldn’t physically interact with their environment.

And why does a force ghost need to physically interact to teach? Teaching is mostly words.

Already asked this, got no response.

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#1228497
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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LordZerome1080 said:

Ojason locked an entire thread just to have the last word.

“I’m going to temp-lock this thread now. I’ll leave it for Jay and other mods to decide how to clean it up, or address it - or just re-open it later. Apologies to screams in the void and anyone else wishing to partake in the actual thread discussion.”

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#1228396
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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dahmage said:

Collipso said:

DominicCobb said:

Everyone’s favorite scene in TLJ was when Leia gave Rey a medal that said “Best Jedi Ever.” Truly amazing moment.

yeah because that’s exactly what i meant

Well then I guess I have no idea what you meant, like usual.

It’s whinperbole, a word I just made up.