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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!

I hope the Despecialized v3.0 Trilogy would be in actual 4K and not just sourced from 4K masters.
HDR would be a real boon too, and would be an edge over 4K77/4K80/4K83.
It would be a complete revelation for someone who wants a painstakingly restored version of the Original Trilogy sourced from the original negatives without CGI and Maclunky.

I would prefer the 4K 35mm Trilogy over Despecialized 4K since I think it’s more authentic and it looks kinda clean in the DNR versions but a version of the OUT with the extra clarity and redone transitions of the Special Editions is a game-changer, it would definitely be the cleanest way to watch the OUT and could be the best way for some.

When this happens, the only thing that the official 4K releases have over Despecialized/4K 35mm would be the Dolby Atmos track, since I don’t know how you can do a remix of the OUT using a mixture of the theatrical/1993 LaserDisc mixes and maybe the 1997 DTS mix or even the recent Atmos mix. And even then, you can just turn on Dolby Surround Upmixer or DTS Neural:X on either the stereo or the 5.1 mixes and it will still sound fairly decent.

Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features

monkeyjb1988 said:

I just watched The Sword in the Stone on Disney+. Definitely NOT one of Disney’s greatest works (just a, admittedly humorous, series of events before Arthur pulls the sword after not being mentioned for most of the film) but that’s not why it’s brought up on this board so often.

I watched it because I know its DNR reputation and I’ve seen the results. I also saw it was one of the films available in 4K, which I took to mean a new restoration/not using the flawed Blu-Ray master. So, I made it a point to watch it (AFTER I got some Star Wars in my system, including The Mandolorian 😃 )

In short, it looks FAR better than the Blu-Ray/streaming screenshots I’ve seen. Granted, the linework is wonky, but it’s too sharp to be the fault of anything other than the xeroxing done to make the cels. It’s hard to just see in these screen shots but the lines change and you can see the pencil markings that made it to the cels and film. In short, the films looks great… er, in a “replicates the original art” way rather than “replicates the film” way. (Keep in mind I can only get screenshots off a laptop that’s not 1080p; please account for that, it looked great on my TV).

Also, I saw this Hollywood Reporter story. In summary, people seem to be warming to the “Contains Outdated Cultural Depictions”; they want more but I don’t think we have to worry about films getting edited as of yet (the crows are still in Dumbo) Breaking News_2019-11-16 11:07:00_tberesford&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews

I saw that The Black Cauldron is also in 4K Dolby Vision, which is interesting since Disney pretty much treats it with the cold shoulder and has never released it on Blu-ray, let alone 4K UHD.

Also, the linework is supposed to be wonky, considering it’s a xerox-era film.
The terrible DNR on the Blu-ray was supposed to combat the wonkiness inherent to the xerography technology.
A good restoration of a xerox-era film should embrace the wonkiness.

4K restoration on Star Wars

Harmy said:

4K83 > Disney+ > Despecialized Edition v2.5 > Blu-ray
No offense to Harmy but I think the Despecialized Edition is obsolete for Star Wars and Return of the Jedi (at least their current forms).
Team Negative One did a really great job on their restorations and I could say that they look better than the official releases, and this isn’t just my bias towards the original cuts speaking.
I only keep the Despecialized Edition for The Empire Strikes Back and it’s only because 4K80 is taking a bit long.

As for the Disney+ 4K, it’s a great improvement over the Blu-ray and it’s definitely the best release of the Special Editions. Regardless if it’s actually an upscale or if it’s the 4K transfer that Reliance made.

Let’s just wait for Disney to release the 4K masters on disc.

A 4K Revisited from Adywan would be great when the 4K Ultra HD discs come out. And Harmy’s 4K Despecialized would still give the cleanest (though not as authentic as TN1’s 4K releases) presentations for the original unaltered trilogy.

4K restoration on Star Wars

I’m guessing that despite being in 4K Dolby Vision, these releases are mere 1080p upscales.
The Special Editions were only mastered in 1080p, and they have to restore the unaltered edition and release it as-is or recreate the 2011 Special Editions from scratch with the new restoration if they want to do a native 4K release.

I really hope that these are just placeholder transfers and that the inevitable 4K releases next year are actually the unaltered editions and not smeary 1080p upscales.

If that doesn’t happen, well, at least we have 4K77 and 4K83, with 4K80 coming in the future.

Toei classic anime: Rumor has it :(

Molly said:

Could be A, could be B.

As far as Sailor Moon goes, Madman is said to have (for at least the first season) gotten Dynit’s masters and synched up the Viz resources to them. Dynit’s release (aka the R2IT) is pretty much the platinum-iridium standard for the series.

TMS has their issues but they’re plenty competent enough with their remasters. (Lupin III, Magic Knight Rayearth)

Tell that to the “remastered” 4K Ultra HD releases of Tomorrow’s Joe 2, Space Adventure COBRA, Lupin III: The Mystery of Mamo and The Castle of Cagliostro.
They are DNR’d to hell and back. It honestly looks like the dreaded Blu-ray remaster of Disney’s The Sword in the Stone.
At least Studio Ghibli’s standard 4K remastered Blu-ray (not Ultra HD) of The Castle of Cagliostro is still on-print and despite being the same 4K remaster as the one on the UHD, the DNR isn’t excessive as in the Blu-ray, retaining some fine grain even though it has a moderate amount of DNR.

Also, what I’m more concered about is that there are rumours that Toei’s Blu-ray releases of some of their much older animated movies (like '60s and '70s) like The Great Adventure of Horus: Prince of the Sun, are LaserDisc upscales.
I don’t believe this since the Blu-ray for Horus has some better detail (though not drastically) than the DVD version.
And also, Studio Ghibli had a 36-bit colour grade of Horus in Panasonic Master Grade Video Coding (basically an earlier, primitive version of HDR) for the Isao Takahata box set so it’s less likely that it’s an upscaled LaserDisc master.

The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977) Stereo Mix

The LaserDisc also has this stereo mix.

LaserDisc sounds better since the VHS still has some noise but digital LaserDisc audio is CD-quality and sounds much clearer.

This actually sounds really great. Ironically, it sounds more stereophonic than the 5.1 remix on the Blu-ray/DVD.
I would definitely do a custom Blu-ray (and also custom DVD for the open matte 4:3 version) with this stereo remix, the original mono mix (from another LaserDisc) and the 5.1 remix from the Blu-ray.

Request: Japanese Fox Searchlight Pictures budget Blu-ray/DVD cover templates

I really hope you can make templates based on these Japanese Fox Searchlight Pictures releases like the following: (Blu-ray) (DVD)
There are many more here:

Unfortunately, I couldn’t find pictures of the spine outside of Yahoo! Auctions Japan (just look up the Japanese title for a Fox Searchlight Pictures release in Yahoo! Auctions Japan).
I just want an editable template of these Fox Searchlight covers. Nothing more, nothing less.

I really love these Fox Searchlight Pictures designs and I want to see how they would look if they were modified for Star Wars.
Or, it would also be a “What if Star Wars was released under Fox Searchlight Pictures instead of 20th Century Fox?” kind of thing.
But, I don’t have enough Photoshop skills to start from scratch.

And for a Trilogy set, I found this slightly different but still matching Wes Anderson Collection which can be the basis for a Fox Searchlight Pictures Star Wars Trilogy set: (Blu-ray) (DVD)

Can someone please do them for me?
I trust FrankT for this request the most.
Thanks in advance!

Happily Ever After (1990) 35mm print opportunity

If you get the full 35mm print, I don’t think a full 4K scan would do wonders to this film, as the animation is pretty low-budget (as is expected from Filmation), even though it’s a gigantic leap from their typical fare.
I think 1080p would suffice.

I was only hoping for at least a LaserDisc rip to surface but a full 35mm print is like a gift from heaven.
Which was I was really hoping for someone to scan it in HD.
All the seeds in torrent sites are down and the YouTube versions are either poor VHS rips or the aforementioned Fox DVD.

Happily Ever After (1990) 35mm print opportunity
This film is actually a guilty pleasure of mine and I love some of the songs, this film was a part of my childhood.
I really hope someone can buy this, scan it and restore it.

This is a Filmation movie and the original masters (and sound masters too) of most of their library were destroyed by Hallmark when they got the rights to Filmation’s library, keeping only international distribution masters in PAL which were sped up.
Plus, the Fox DVD sloppily censored some of the violence which was in the VHS version.
And, an HD remaster is impossible now that the original 35mm film elements are lost.

This is our closest chance of ever getting an HD remaster of this film.

International Audio (including Voice-Over Translations)

Can someone please send me audio files for GOUT-synced (4K83 for ROTJ) Japanese dubs.
And SW and ESB each had two Japanese dubs: a theatrical dub and a home video dub while ROTJ only has a home video dub, both dubs are on the Japanese GOUT.
I only have a Complete Saga Blu-ray from Japan and I am planning on making my own custom Blu-rays for the TN1 4K Trilogy that will match my retail Japanese Blu-rays.

Star Wars 1977 70mm sound mix recreation [stereo and 5.1 versions now available]

ChainsawAsh said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

I hope the 5.1ch mix for TESB will have a 70mm version which will contain the changes which were on the 70mm mix like Luke saying “You were lucky to get out of there” instead of “You’re lucky you didn’t taste very good” among other things.

Those weren’t part of the 70mm mix. We have in-theater audio recordings of the 70mm mix to prove it, which also prove that the ending sequence was cut differently, meaning you couldn’t make a true 70mm mix restoration and just include it as a separate audio track; you’d need to alter the video as well.

Okay. But my point is, I think a rough approximation of the 70mm mix but synced to the 35mm cut would be great for 4K80 and Harmy’s Despecialized.
It would be nigh-impossible to restore the 70mm cut unless we find a full 70mm print.

Star Wars 1977 70mm sound mix recreation [stereo and 5.1 versions now available]

I hope the 5.1ch mix for TESB will have a 70mm version which will contain the changes which were on the 70mm mix like Luke saying “You were lucky to get out of there” instead of “You’re lucky you didn’t taste very good” among other things.

I want a rough recreation of the 70mm mix but synced to the GOUT (or 4K80 when it comes out and the sync is different lie in 4K83).
For people who prefer the original 35mm mix, keep a “Purist” 5.1ch mix as well.

It would be great for the trilogy so that the 5.1 mixes recreate the 70mm 6-track mixes.
SW and ROTJ are pretty much 5.1 versions of the Dolby Stereo mixes while TESB will be different, just like the actual 70mm mixes.

I do have a soft spot in my heart for the mono mixes, though.

Movies in UAR - opinions needed

I think some of the Winnie the Pooh films would benefit from this.
The DMC (Disney Movie Club) exclusive Blu-ray release is in it’s original production aspect ratio of 1:66:1 but it loses some of the sides in the Blu-ray version compared to the iTunes version which is cropped to 1:78:1, even if some detail on the top and bottom is lost on iTunes.
Meanwhile, the DVD has the most information on the top, bottom and sides.

I think a UAR version of Piglet’s Big Movie with the iTunes version on the top, bottom and sides applied on the Blu-ray image would be great. With the DVD version applied to parts of the image which the iTunes and Blu-ray versions don’t show.
But I think it would just be an open-matte edit.

There is also Pooh’s Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin.
It’s on a 1:66:1 aspect ratio on the US DVD, Blu-ray and iTunes (weird, since for most of the other Winnie the Pooh iTunes releases, they are cropped to 1:78:1, so the iTunes release may just be the HD master for the US DVD release).
And the framing is different on both the iTunes and Blu-ray versions, with the iTunes version showing parts of the image that aren’t on the Blu-ray while cutting some parts of the image which were present on the Blu-ray, in both horizontal and vertical axes.

There are also the European and Asian DVDs, which are in 1:33:1 fullscreen.
They cut off part of the sides but are also open matte and show more of the top and bottom.

Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to locate a comparison of the Asian DVD, US DVD, iTunes and Blu-ray all together.

However, I think we should combine the Blu-ray and iTunes for the widescreen part (maybe utilizing the US DVD, since it may have more image) with the European/Asian DVD filling up what’s lost in the Blu-ray and iTunes versions.

Here are some screenshot comparisons: Piglet’s Big Movie Pooh’s Grand Adventure (Blu-ray vs. iTunes) Pooh’s Grand Adventure (Widescreen vs. Fullscreen)

As for colour, I know the Blu-rays have more saturated and bright colours more in line with The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and the Blu-ray release of The Tigger Movie.
But I personally prefer the Blu-ray colours, since the detail pops out more (and I personally think the iTunes and DVD releases of Pooh’s Grand Adventure looks like it has a purple tint).
Just give fans an option between the Blu-ray colour palette or the original iTunes/DVD colour palette.

New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - Preservation Project

This bootleg looks like a conversion of those Russian WEB-DL torrents.
And there’s a chance the quality could be worse, since Blu-ray can’t support 1080p 25fps, Blu-ray can only support 25fps in 720p or 23.976fps 1080p.
So either he’s lying and it’s actually downscaled to 720p, it’s we get missing frames with converting 25fps to 23.976fps by removing some frames, or it’s actually a proper 25fps to 23.976fps correction.

Either way, I really can’t see how the quality would be that different from the Russian WEB-DL torrents.