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#1163841
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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towne32 said:

Dang. Two worlds of hurts back to back!

I agree, though. Getting seamless branching working (thanks again, Williarob) was a challenge enough. Getting a BD-J disc authored and working would be a nightmare, as cool as those picture-in-picture features are.

I think PiP doesn’t need BD-J, since the Japanese Studio Ghibli Blu-rays have no BD-J and they have PiP features in the Storyboards (essentially watch the workprint version of the film where it’s entirely storyboards) and the discs are not BD-J.

The PiP feature in the Storyboards in the Japanese Ghibli Blu-rays is that the workprint takes up the entire screen, you can choose whether the final film can be seen in a smaller window and you can even choose which corner to put the final film’s window.

The US Ghibli Blu-rays, however, don’t have the PiP feature for the workprint storyboards.

And while most people don’t like watching the workprint feature which is a standard for most Ghibli releases, I actually love watching the storyboard versions. I love watching workprints of films, and I really love it when they include a workprint as an extra on the official Blu-ray or DVD.

But I’m getting sidetracked. What I’m saying is that if the Ghibli Blu-rays to get PiP working without BD-J, then it’s theoretically possible for most.

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#1163036
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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albmm said:

Dear Harmy (and the rest of the team),

Congratulations for this incredible work. Your HD original versions of the movies are amazing.

There is only one thing that, in my opinion, spoils all this great work: the subtitles on Greedo scene on SW, and the others on the Jabba Palace scene on ROTJ, especially for non-english spoke people.

So, I’d like to ask you about any cut of the movies without subtitles on movie footage.

Many thanks.

There is a German Despecialized Edition Trilogy which has German subtitles for the alien speech in Star Wars and Return of the Jedi. The German version of The Empire Strikes Back even had minor improvements from Harmy’s version.
There is also a French Despecialized Edition Trilogy but only Star Wars is finished as of now.

And since the Blu-rays have removable subtitles for these scenes, even if the theatrical versions have the subtitles.

I think a Despecialized Edition without subtitles for the alien speech would go against the purpose of the Despecialized Edition’s mission.

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#1162189
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Theater Performance Preservations
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How about TS/CAMRips of The Force Awakens, Rogue One, and The Last Jedi?

I’m gonna go on a treasure hunt for CAMRips on the bay of space pirates but I’m not sure if they still have seeds; especially for Rogue One and The Force Awakens.
The Last Jedi still probably has enough seeds for it’s CAMRip/HDTS thanks to being the most recent and having no Blu-ray announcement let alone release yet.

My cinema recordings will just be the audio from these CAMRips synced to the Blu-rays and in a .mka container.

I am not sure if I am gonna go through with this since I am a very busy man when it comes to other things in my life.

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#1160770
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Frank's Star Wars DVD/BD Covers
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FrankT said:

Though not quite within the criteria of DVD or BD, these are also added for completion.

Revisited Jewel Case


Initially produced as an experimentation with the jewel case format, these are designed around the 2000 VCD covers. The back details for ESB and ROTJ may prove incorrect.

Magnetic Video Sleeve


A hypothetical replica of what the cover for the Magnetic release of Star Wars would’ve looked like had they been granted the rights to it before 1982. Hey… without Magnetic, we wouldn’t have home video.

Super 8 Jewel Case


Based on the original F48 Ken Films box. It also experiments with the way some VCD covers use the back of the case as the front of the cover (like the San Andreas one, for example), which is actually rather nifty.

Can I please have the Revisited jewel case covers, please?
Thanks in advance!

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#1155237
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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After watching some videos of Nathan P. Butler’s From the Star Wars Home Video Library (great show, by the way).
I noticed that the Star Wars: Special Editions get new incarnations every seven years (1997, 2004, 2011), and they always have new formats.

  • 1997 theatrically, on VHS and LaserDisc
  • 2004 on DVD
  • 2011 on Blu-ray
  • 2018 on 4K Ultra HD?

If Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm, George Lucas will probably continue the seven-year cycle and tweak the first six films again and they will have 4K releases.
And maybe this is a sign that this is the year that the first six Star Wars films will come out in 4K Ultra HD, and I’m not sure if there will be more alterations under the new rule of Disney. (Most likely not, since the 2011 versions are canon according to Disney).
However, what is sure is that The Last Jedi will be the one to come out in 4K this year.
It is not yet confirmed if The Force Awakens or Rogue One will get 4K re-releases this year.
And now, it’s very possible considering Fox bought Disney, meaning that Star Wars is now under Disney, and the saga is now 100% Disney.

The only reason why we don’t have the unaltered versions of the Original Trilogy from Disney yet is because Kathleen Kennedy is close friends with George Lucas, who specifically told her to never re-release the unaltered versions.
Which Kathleen did out of respect for George, not just as the original creator of Star Wars, but also as a close friend.
She wouldn’t want to betray Lucas the same way Anakin betrayed Obi-Wan.
But Disney may, without any regards for the friendship of the two, force Kathleen Kennedy to put out the original unaltered trilogy since it will surely print money for Disney.
And with the cycle going on, now might be the year to do it.

If the 4K discs do come out this year, I hope the 4K discs get ripped so we can make an even better source for v3.0.
And I hope that Disney will force Lucasfilm to re-release the original unaltered trilogy this time.

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#1154324
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Idea: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind stereo remix
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Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is my favorite animated film of all time, and I want a new way to hear it.

Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind only had a mono mix for it’s theatrical release and every release onward, even the 4K remastered Blu-ray and the English dubbed version.
There are 5.1 remixes released in Thailand and Germany but they are apparently of low quality compared to an actual remix, even compared to their mono counterparts.

The DVD/Blu-ray is in 2.0 but it’s a dual mono mix.

For many purists (including Studio Ghibli itself as well as me), the mono version is the best-sounding mix of the movie, even if there are other remixes. And I love how the movie sounds in mono.

However, I want to stop and ponder how would the movie sound in stereo, would it be better or worse?
It would be different, for sure. But I want to know.

There is a Drama Album for Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind as well as other Miyazaki films released in 1989, and since Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind and Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro are the only Miyazaki films in mono, and Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro never had a Drama Album, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind has a unique stereo remix for it’s Drama Album, with some changes in music, sound effects, and more.

However, thanks to some changes in the music cues (some scenes are either longer or shorter because of this), syncing it up with the Blu-ray isn’t as simple as it seems.
There are also some scenes where the music is slightly altered/there are new snippets but they sync up with the animation.

I want someone to construct a stereo mix of Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind using the Drama Album, as well as other Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind soundtrack albums, and the Blu-ray mono mix if possible.

Maybe hunt down FLAC music albums (you need the Drama Album, Soundtrack, Image Album, and Symphony Album for this) and edit them together so that they properly sync with the Blu-ray. You may need the mono track from the Blu-ray but I’m not sure.
The music cues should follow the same ones as the mono mix/Drama Album.

I also want two versions of this: A “purist” version which is still a stereo remix but it more closely resembles the music cues in the mono version, and a different “enhanced” version which has all of the altered music cues from the Drama Album except if they ruin the sync with the Blu-ray.

Now, I cannot do this and I am just giving away ideas but I will handle distribution of this project.

UPDATE: When comparing the Drama Album and the theatrical mono mix, it seems that only some sound effects have panning in stereo, the Drama Album mix is mostly a mono mix but with some stereo sound effects and completely stereo music, still a pretty interesting version of the film.

P.S: I am not sure if this should go in the Fan Preservation or the Fan Edit boards.

Thanks in advance!

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#1152944
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It's the full collection, Charlie Brown! AKA continuing the Warner Peanuts 1960s, 1970s "decade" collections (a WIP)
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There is a 4K Ultra HD collection of some Peanuts specials which include <italic>A Charlie Brown Christmas</italic>, <italic>It’s Christmastime Again, Charlie Brown</italic>, <italic>It’s Flashbeagle, Charlie Brown</italic>, <italic>A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving</italic>, <italic>Mayflower Voyages</italic>, <italic>Play It Again, Charlie Brown</italic>, <italic>It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown</italic>, <italic>It’s Magic, Charlie Brown</italic>, and <italic>Charlie Brown’s All-Stars</italic>.

All in 4K HDR.
The restoration looks really great, though it’s appearance in 4K Ultra HD was unexpected, and people were just baffled, I was really hyped for this one.
This time, all of the specials are in DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1, including <italic>A Charlie Brown Christmas</italic> and the other bonus specials included with the other discs.
I personally would’ve wanted an LPCM 1.0 or DTS-HD Master Audio 1.0 track from the LaserDisc or VHS releases but it’s still okay.
The restorations are either in a pillarboxed 4:3 (1:33:1) fullscreen presentation or a pan-and-scan 16:9 (1:78:1) widescreen presentation.
I am a purist but the 16:9 version actually looks great as far as cropped widescreen presentations of classics go.
But still, 4:3 all the way.

Unfortunately, the included standard Blu-rays aren’t updated in any way whatsoever (just like in the 4K releases of <italic>Blade Runner: The Final Cut</italic> and <italic>The Dark Knight Trilogy</italic>) except for <i>A Charlie Brown Christmas</i> which has an updated Blu-ray with an MPEG-4 AVC encode and DTS-HD Master Audio tracks instead of it’s initial VC-1 video and Dolby Digital audio release.
The other Blu-ray discs are the 2009/2010 Blu-rays with VC-1 video and not-as-shiny video quality.

I am hoping that the 4K discs get cracked so we can use them for restoration purposes.

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#1097473
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Captain Antilles said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

When is the DVD-5 version coming out?
Already have the MKV version but I’m just curious.

This question has been answered many, many, many times. The answer is right in Ady’s post as well as on the WordPress. Please do your homework first.

He said he will do a DVD-5 alongside the MKV for now, while the DVD-9 version and the Blu-ray ISO will come later.
He said that the DVD-5 will come shortly after the MKV but the DVD-9 and the Blu-ray will come much later.

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#1096192
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Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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Avatar_Emil_Borg said:

Who is seriously buying this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Snow-White-And-The-Seven-Dwarfs-1937-BLU-RAY-DVD-2-Disc-Set-/131717712266?epid=1631049176&hash=item1eaafcc98a:g:Q4QAAOSwa-dWsIY1

Apparently, they are similar in video quality to the US releases.

And since they are both Japanese and Korean budget releases, they may not be official but they are legal releases, since they are public domain in Japan and South Korea probably because of archaic copyright laws.
They updated them some time ago but it was too late to prevent some of the Disney films from going public domain.
And apparently, some of these DVDs have also been spotted in the Philippines in some Japanese surplus stores there so maybe the same could be said for the Philippines.

Which means any company can make their own release of the public domain Disney films (101 Dalmatians and everything before that) as long as they don’t use the Disney logo.
Walt Disney Studios Philippines, Walt Disney Studios South Korea and Walt Disney Studios Japan are all still allowed to use the Disney logo for obvious reasons, and they are usually the superior versions because they come from Disney themselves and also because they have bonus features.

And speaking of the Philippines, they apparently don’t have this Disney Vault complication that most other countries have. Which means all of the current releases are on-print since 2014, and even movies that were once in the vault are brought out permanently. So they don’t have to deal with all of the Disney Vault shenanigans which most of us have to deal.
And all of the current releases are also official.
The trade-off? Their releases are downgraded by being one-disc only for the movies which were originally two-disc sets.
This isn’t as bad as those which were only one-disc but it can get bad for many movies which are two-disc sets.
Also, they make the Blu-rays rarer over there and you really have to hunt for them.
They also exclude the original theatrical audio mix for any of their releases, but apparently, Disney also does it for other countries except for the US and sometimes Canada.
At least, that is what I saw when I was in vacation in the Philippines.

More info on these releases:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=250138

And info about international copyright laws:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_South_Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_Philippines

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#1093134
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DTS audio preservation .... UPDATE 07 May 2015 ... Work In Progress
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Can someone please sync the English Cinema DTS dub of Howl’s Moving Castle properly to the Blu-ray?

I think it would be really great.

Also, please encode it in DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 Matrix, since it was originally in DTS-ES in theaters.
And I know that there was a mistake in the Star Wars Cinema DTS tracks with them being only in 5.1 instead of 6.1 Matrix.

Please, I was really excited when I saw Howl’s Moving Castle was one of the movies you preserved in cinema DTS.

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#1085435
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Can Adywan make a DVD-5 movie disc of ESB:R in addition to the other versions when it comes out?
There are some people who can’t burn a DVD-9 disc out there who are otherwise interested in your work and want to burn ESB:R on a DVD but they can’t burn a DVD-9.
Just lower the quality only a tiny bit so it can fit on a DVD-5 disc, it should be really simple.
The only DVD-5 disc he’s planning is the bonus disc for when you downloaded the MKV or the DVD-9 version.
I would personally go for the 25GB Blu-ray version.

Anyways, I’m heavily looking forward to this.

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#1082684
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Star Wars OT &amp; 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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yotsuya said:

This thread appears to be upscaling the GOUT and 97 SE broadcasts. I doubt I have his skill, but I am attempting the same thing. For me it is more about the colors. I’m attempting to restore something close to the original colors for both versions. It is the first stage in restoring the colors to the Blu-Ray. For A New Hope that will be hard. But one thing I have found is that my efforts to enhance it look best at 720p and do not downgrade well to 480p Widescreen DVD resolution. I think I have the colors for the GOUT and am very close for the SE. Along with the SE, I’m including the broadcasts of The Phantom Menace and reconstructions of the theatrical version of AOTC and ROTS (using the extant theatrical camera print for AOTC and the Blu-ray of ROTS to correct the DVD versions) and using the cinema DTS disc audio for all but ROTS (where the DVD audio is the same as the theatrical). Plus I’ve found information that has led to me creating a slightly enhanced GOUT of the original 77 theatrical version of Star Wars (the no episode number opening crawl, 3 different effects shots, and different end credits). So I’m going to have 10 files in the end.

You can also use the cinema DTS disc for Revenge of the Sith since DTS is of a higher bitrate than Dolby Digital.

Also, make sure to convert it to DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 Matrix and not regular DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 since it’s presented in cinemas in DTS-ES 6.1 which is matrixed 5.1.
If you don’t make it 6.1 Matrix, then it’s not actually the theatrical version.

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#1075337
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Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray?
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nickyd47 said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

Fang Zei said:

How did you end up watching that trailer? Was it just put up recently?

It’s on YouTube.
And it was already there for like two years.

I just love that modern-style trailer.

I didn’t hear it

You can faintly hear it.

But then again, I was using earbuds to watch the trailer.

You can hear it at around the 1:01 mark when they showed a clip of the victory celebration ending.

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#1074953
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Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray?
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I noticed something interesting and strange on the Return of the Jedi Digital Movie Collection trailer.

You can faintly hear Yub Nub when they showed a clip of the ending.

It’s very brief but you can notice that it’s Yub Nub instead of the Victory Celebration song.

And even better, they play the film version instead of the soundtrack version (which the LEGO Star Wars short films did).

Could this be the sign of a very un-special surprise Lucasfilm has for the future?

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#1074809
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Info Wanted: Is there 5.1 surround sound on the Despecialized Editions?
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yotsuya said:

junh1024 said:

Anyways, I think using the Dolby Pro Logic IIx 6.1 decoder will yield better results even for mono surrounds than Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 or Dolby Pro Logic 4.0.

Not necessarily. Decoders/upscalers decode to whatever output config you select.

The upscalers have NO KNOWLEDGE of the config of the source material, all they get is 2ch something. And they WILL upscale to any number of speakers you select.

DPL2x is 6.1 OR 7.1 (Again, whatever you select). DPL2x will (generally) NOT increase the discreteness of your upscale by a large amount, because there is only so much info you can store in (matrixed) 2ch (in fact, the most sortove discrete ch you can store in 2ch is 3ch with the best DPL2 decoding, you can only get more with extremely controlled synthetic conditions.). Using professional 5.1>7.1 upmixers, what’s in the back 4 is basically the same as the previous 2.

You can>: decode to 5.1 (DPL2) and mono the rears. OR decode to 4ch (DPL1) and stereoize the back.

That is not quite correct. The original Dolby Stereo (the 4 channel matrix encoding) contains 4 distinct channels. Sounds can be directed to any channel. Using Dolby Prologic II decoding may produce 5 channels, but the two surround channels are identical if the source only had 4 channels. When Dolby updated their encoding in the 80’s, they found a way to encode stereo surround channels. Dolby Prologic II decoding produces 5 distinct channels. Now there may be some crosstalk between channels that interferes with the purity of the mix, but anyone who did a matrixed mix should be paying attention to how it comes out of the decoder and there should be nothing significant. And the way Dolby decided to encode the LFE was to use the surround channels below 120 Hz. That gives you the full 5.1 channels from a 2 channel source.

Now when you apply this to Star Wars, the sources for the 77 and 85 mixes are not complete. True they are only missing a few frames, but to avoid any issue between 4 and 5 channels is to create a 4.1 or 5.1 mix where you can down convert the stereo surround of the 93 mix (the most complete) to the mono of the 77 mix. But you can never upconvert that mono surround to be anything else. You can apply a stereo field effect to it, but all that does is broaden the sound (I’ve played with this quite a bit to make a mono song not feel so out of place among stereo songs). You are limited by the source and the decoder. Whichever uses the fewest channels is what you get for output. It doesn’t matter how many surround speakers you have, the sound will be the same.

Okay, thanks for the info.

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#1074808
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Info Wanted: Is there 5.1 surround sound on the Despecialized Editions?
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yotsuya said:

junh1024 said:

Anyways, I think using the Dolby Pro Logic IIx 6.1 decoder will yield better results even for mono surrounds than Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 or Dolby Pro Logic 4.0.

Not necessarily. Decoders/upscalers decode to whatever output config you select.

The upscalers have NO KNOWLEDGE of the config of the source material, all they get is 2ch something. And they WILL upscale to any number of speakers you select.

DPL2x is 6.1 OR 7.1 (Again, whatever you select). DPL2x will (generally) NOT increase the discreteness of your upscale by a large amount, because there is only so much info you can store in (matrixed) 2ch (in fact, the most sortove discrete ch you can store in 2ch is 3ch with the best DPL2 decoding, you can only get more with extremely controlled synthetic conditions.). Using professional 5.1>7.1 upmixers, what’s in the back 4 is basically the same as the previous 2.

You can>: decode to 5.1 (DPL2) and mono the rears. OR decode to 4ch (DPL1) and stereoize the back.

That is not quite correct. The original Dolby Stereo (the 4 channel matrix encoding) contains 4 distinct channels. Sounds can be directed to any channel. Using Dolby Prologic II decoding may produce 5 channels, but the two surround channels are identical if the source only had 4 channels. When Dolby updated their encoding in the 80’s, they found a way to encode stereo surround channels. Dolby Prologic II decoding produces 5 distinct channels. Now there may be some crosstalk between channels that interferes with the purity of the mix, but anyone who did a matrixed mix should be paying attention to how it comes out of the decoder and there should be nothing significant. And the way Dolby decided to encode the LFE was to use the surround channels below 120 Hz. That gives you the full 5.1 channels from a 2 channel source.

Now when you apply this to Star Wars, the sources for the 77 and 85 mixes are not complete. True they are only missing a few frames, but to avoid any issue between 4 and 5 channels is to create a 4.1 or 5.1 mix where you can down convert the stereo surround of the 93 mix (the most complete) to the mono of the 77 mix. But you can never upconvert that mono surround to be anything else. You can apply a stereo field effect to it, but all that does is broaden the sound (I’ve played with this quite a bit to make a mono song not feel so out of place among stereo songs). You are limited by the source and the decoder. Whichever uses the fewest channels is what you get for output. It doesn’t matter how many surround speakers you have, the sound will be the same.

Okay, thanks for the info.

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#1074432
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Info Wanted: Is there 5.1 surround sound on the Despecialized Editions?
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yotsuya said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

Actually, Dolby Pro Logic IIx is 6.1 surround sound.

And it may be better than using plain Dolby Pro Logic 4.0 or Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 as you said.

I think the Despecialized Editions should be in DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 Discrete in the next versions.

That would be really awesome.

I didn’t care much for 6.1 on the Star Wars: The Complete Saga Blu-rays but I absolutely loved the 6.1 surround sound effects on The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and especially on The Studio Ghibli Collection.

Just turn on the Dolby Digital EX flag for the DVD-5 and AVCHD DVD-9 versions while the MKV version is a discrete DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 track.

Anyways, I think using the Dolby Pro Logic IIx 6.1 decoder will yield better results even for mono surrounds than Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 or Dolby Pro Logic 4.0.

You have to have the audio source to warrant it. The Pro Logic decoders can only decode what was encoded in the audio in the first place, they do not create the channels, they just decode them. So when you run the original 77 Star Wars Stereo mix through a 5.1 decoder, you only get 4 channels. Run it through a 6.1 or 7.1 decoder and you still only get 4 channels. But the decoder knows what to do with those channels.

I know that, but Dolby Pro Logic IIx 6.1 apparently has better quality at decoding than Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 or Dolby Pro Logic Surround 4.0.

Even if we only get 4 channels with Dolby Pro Logic IIx 6.1, the results will still be better than doing the same with Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 or plain Dolby Pro Logic 4.0.

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#1074126
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Info Wanted: Is there 5.1 surround sound on the Despecialized Editions?
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Actually, Dolby Pro Logic IIx is 6.1 surround sound.

And it may be better than using plain Dolby Pro Logic 4.0 or Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 as you said.

I think the Despecialized Editions should be in DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 Discrete in the next versions.

That would be really awesome.

I didn’t care much for 6.1 on the Star Wars: The Complete Saga Blu-rays but I absolutely loved the 6.1 surround sound effects on The Lord of the Rings Trilogy and especially on The Studio Ghibli Collection.

Just turn on the Dolby Digital EX flag for the DVD-5 and AVCHD DVD-9 versions while the MKV version is a discrete DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 track.

Anyways, I think using the Dolby Pro Logic IIx 6.1 decoder will yield better results even for mono surrounds than Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 or Dolby Pro Logic 4.0.

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#1073735
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Info Wanted: Is there 5.1 surround sound on the Despecialized Editions?
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Also, here’s a suggestion.

I think the audio tracks on the Despecialized DVD-5 versions should be the 2.0 mix instead of the 5.1 mix.

I think of the DVD-5 versions as budget versions for people without a Blu-ray player or a method of playing MKVs on their TV.

And there are still many people with only stereo speakers for their DVD player and that 5.1 downmixing results may vary, along with the fact that the Dolby Surround 2.0 mixes can be matrixed to 4.0 or 5.1 with Dolby Pro Logic (II) with good results.

I think a 448kbps Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround mix is ideal for the DVD-5 Despecialized Edition.